Cost to swap full wheels - summer to winter
Cost to swap full wheels - summer to winter
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Talay

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69 posts

150 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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My BMW dealer used to keep the spare wheels and swap them over twice a year, for the princely sum of £10 a month on standing order but as of last year, they did away with that facility and in spring I did the change myself.

I could do it again now as they are in my garage but in truth, I have no desire to sit on the ground and lift up a 2 ton car on a jack and swap over 4 wheels as what takes me an hour or so manually can be done by air tools in a few minutes.

So before I approach the nearest wheel or tyre place, what am I looking at cost wise ?

No new tyres required, just swap all 4 wheels (not tyres) over.

Super Sonic

14,421 posts

84 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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At a guess this is going to vary by a huge amount depending who you ask . You're gona have to phone a few places and ask.

craig1912

4,655 posts

142 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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My local one just charged me £36. Last year they didn’t charge me anything

Mr Tidy

31,534 posts

157 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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1st world problem!

I just do it myself twice a year - it isn't rocket science!

GuyW

1,117 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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£10 a month?! Geez.

Invest in a decent impact wrench & torque wrench and don't over tighten on re-fitting and it'll not take you long at all.

Sheepshanks

41,091 posts

149 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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For years our local indie tyre place charged £20, or £28 if I wanted them balanced, They’d do it on 2 post lift, which I liked, as it’s not flexing the car or mashing the jacking points.

This year, on the winter to summer change, with just the fronts being balanced, a new manager wanted over £100 (after they’d done the job). Got it down to £70 but left with very bad feeling all round. As it happens the car has gone now but I’d buy All Seasons rather than pay that.

I have done it myself once but the car (wife’s Tiguan) was right at the limit of my trolley jack’s lift and it was altogether a bit too hairy.

stevemcs

10,326 posts

123 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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We charge £12 per wheel if already on alloys or £20 if we have to swap tyres on alloys and balance

EmailAddress

14,640 posts

248 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Talay said:
My BMW dealer used to keep the spare wheels and swap them over twice a year, for the princely sum of £10 a month on standing order but as of last year, they did away with that facility and in spring I did the change myself.

I could do it again now as they are in my garage but in truth, I have no desire to sit on the ground and lift up a 2 ton car on a jack and swap over 4 wheels as what takes me an hour or so manually can be done by air tools in a few minutes.

So before I approach the nearest wheel or tyre place, what am I looking at cost wise ?

No new tyres required, just swap all 4 wheels (not tyres) over.
Why would you sit on the ground?

Why will changing wheels take you an hour?

E63eeeeee...

5,766 posts

79 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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EmailAddress said:
Talay said:
My BMW dealer used to keep the spare wheels and swap them over twice a year, for the princely sum of £10 a month on standing order but as of last year, they did away with that facility and in spring I did the change myself.

I could do it again now as they are in my garage but in truth, I have no desire to sit on the ground and lift up a 2 ton car on a jack and swap over 4 wheels as what takes me an hour or so manually can be done by air tools in a few minutes.

So before I approach the nearest wheel or tyre place, what am I looking at cost wise ?

No new tyres required, just swap all 4 wheels (not tyres) over.
Why would you sit on the ground?

Why will changing wheels take you an hour?
If you're doing it with the wind-up jack out of the boot and a wheel brace, especially if it's something you don't do often, that doesn't sound especially slow to me.

105.4

4,214 posts

101 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Today it cost me £50 for the local tyre place to swap the summer tyres for winter tyres on one of my work vans. I supplied the tyres.

It would have been even cheaper had I had my winter tyres already mounted on a set of steelies.

EmailAddress

14,640 posts

248 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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105.4 said:
Today it cost me £50 for the local tyre place to swap the summer tyres for winter tyres on one of my work vans. I supplied the tyres.

It would have been even cheaper had I had my winter tyres already mounted on a set of steelies.
What tyres have you gone for?

edc

9,656 posts

281 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Once you've folded down the seats, out in an old sheet and lifted the wheels in yourself then drive there and back plus the time to do the job itself you will have exceeded an hour at home anyway. If it's just that you don't want to do it then call a local mobile mechanic.

cootuk

918 posts

153 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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£10 to swap wheels at my local non-major-franchise tyre place. Torqued as well. It's a 5 minute job for them.

Gad-Westy

16,585 posts

243 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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E63eeeeee... said:
EmailAddress said:
Talay said:
My BMW dealer used to keep the spare wheels and swap them over twice a year, for the princely sum of £10 a month on standing order but as of last year, they did away with that facility and in spring I did the change myself.

I could do it again now as they are in my garage but in truth, I have no desire to sit on the ground and lift up a 2 ton car on a jack and swap over 4 wheels as what takes me an hour or so manually can be done by air tools in a few minutes.

So before I approach the nearest wheel or tyre place, what am I looking at cost wise ?

No new tyres required, just swap all 4 wheels (not tyres) over.
Why would you sit on the ground?

Why will changing wheels take you an hour?
If you're doing it with the wind-up jack out of the boot and a wheel brace, especially if it's something you don't do often, that doesn't sound especially slow to me.
yes

I do at least one of our cars every year and I'd probably put aside an hour even using a hydraulic jack. It's quicker on our little VW Up as the wheels are far lighter and have four bolts rather than 5 but I think I'd still be at least 10 minutes per corner start to finish when accounting for getting new set of wheels out of storage, getting tools out, and tidying everything up afterwards. I'm also one of those crazy people who actually torques the wheel bolts up properly. And I don't mean writhe them with the impact gun then giving them a ceremonial click with the torque wrench afterwards!

If I have time, it's also a good time to break out the pressure washer and clean all the crap out from the wheel arch area, especially when putting summers back on after winter. Can give the pads and discs and suspension rubbers a good look too.

On Biggers cars, it always takes longer. Much heavier wheel/tyres make maneuvering them around tight spaces far worse and my back is usually complaining two corners in. Our BMW wheels seem to also have a habit of getting stuck on as well no matter how diligent I am with prep each time I fit them. Always adds a few minutes.

So, all in all, an hour sounds about right but I'd still do them myself as a lot of the time and the crappest part of the job is moving heavy, mucky wheels around which you're still going to have to do if you take them to a garage. And I never trust garages not to just apply 12,0000 Nm to each wheel bolt.

105.4

4,214 posts

101 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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EmailAddress said:
What tyres have you gone for?
Kuhmo ProTrans M&S.



Edited by 105.4 on Monday 13th November 10:29

MustangGT

13,838 posts

310 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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I see the OP is in Surrey. In that area I would be fitting all-season tyres and doing away with all the change and storage issues.

AndySheff

6,928 posts

237 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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With mine and the Mrs cars, horse bus, transport, sons car and trailers - I've changed 26 wheels over for this winter (in Sweden where winter tyres are compulsory). Takes about 5 mins per corner. Get it done yourself.

aeropilot

40,741 posts

257 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Gad-Westy said:
So, all in all, an hour sounds about right but I'd still do them myself as a lot of the time and the crappest part of the job is moving heavy, mucky wheels around which you're still going to have to do if you take them to a garage.
Yep, used to take me about 1.5hrs in total, including getting tools out, doing the change, and putting everything away again, including packing wheels away in bags and hanging up in garage, back when I used to swap my winters to summers etc on my BMW 135i.

I wouldn't even think of doing such a thing on my X5 now, and prefer the easier life with all-seasons fitted instead.


vikingaero

13,339 posts

199 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Even in November, you'll find a nice dry mild day to swap them over. £120 that the OP has been paying the dealer each year will buy most of the tools you need. You could blag it with the tools in the car - jack, wrench etc. but a trolley jack, jack pad, impact wrench and torque wrench will do the job properly. If you want decent but cheap then going to both Lidl and Aldi will often come up trumps.

Once you take off the wheels, take a moment to wire brush any corrosion on the bolts and hubs, maybe apply a thin sliver of coppergrease on the hub to prevent bi-metallic corrosion, or if not to wind up those on PH who think coppergrease stops the clamped wheels from rotating.

Use the opportunity with the wheels off to clean anything in the wheelwells or spray any corrosion with stuff like Muc-Off HCB-1 or similar. Then once the summer tyres are off, remove stones and inspect and clean/wax/seal them before storage. Therapeutic.


ScoobyChris

2,307 posts

232 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Gad-Westy said:
Our BMW wheels seem to also have a habit of getting stuck on as well no matter how diligent I am with prep each time I fit them. Always adds a few minutes.
Use a smear of copper grease on mine to prevent this. Seems to work very well.

Chris