DLR's should include rear lights - discuss

DLR's should include rear lights - discuss

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magpies

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5,131 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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With the advent of DLR's and dashboards that light up when turning the ignition on, we now have the phenomenon of cars being driven in the dark/rain/fog etc. without rear lights.
A real step back in road safety.
Most of this could have been avoided if the manufacturers had included the rear lights with DLR's.
In 'olden' times it was usual to turn on the lights when the dashboard clocks were too dim.

Pebbles167

3,541 posts

154 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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It's happened to me several times, some cars are worse than others.

Personally I preferred it when you could turn all lights off, and the dash was not illuminated when you did. But DRL are here to stay, so yes, rear lights on too.

illmonkey

18,297 posts

200 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Yes, and no.

DRL should not exist. Just put every cars lights on dipped front and back permanently.

There will be no confusion "My DaSh Is LiT uP" bks. I struggle to see why anyone agreed to allow DRL's.

markiii

3,672 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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this it acheived nothing that making teh lights come on front and back wouldn't have

s94wht

1,601 posts

61 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I've coded my rear lights to be on all the time for this very reason - I used to get really angry when I couldn't see someone in a white or grey car, then realised that I was also driving a white car and I might be doing exactly the same thing.

CraigyMc

16,557 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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magpies said:
With the advent of DLR's and dashboards that light up when turning the ignition on, we now have the phenomenon of cars being driven in the dark/rain/fog etc. without rear lights.
A real step back in road safety.
Most of this could have been avoided if the manufacturers had included the rear lights with DLR's.
In 'olden' times it was usual to turn on the lights when the dashboard clocks were too dim.
Auto lights should be mandatory-fit and default to on. Job jobbed.

SteBrown91

2,417 posts

131 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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magpies said:
With the advent of DLR's and dashboards that light up when turning the ignition on, we now have the phenomenon of cars being driven in the dark/rain/fog etc. without rear lights.
A real step back in road safety.
Most of this could have been avoided if the manufacturers had included the rear lights with DLR's.
In 'olden' times it was usual to turn on the lights when the dashboard clocks were too dim.
Many new cars do now include rear lights as DRLs.

steveo3002

10,567 posts

176 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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auto lights would fix this

griffsomething

246 posts

163 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Pretty sure our family rucksack V60 has DRLs on the back all the time too - unsurprisingly for good old safety conscious Volvo.

Jazoli

9,131 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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s94wht said:
I've coded my rear lights to be on all the time for this very reason - I used to get really angry when I couldn't see someone in a white or grey car, then realised that I was also driving a white car and I might be doing exactly the same thing.
Me too, auto lights should be compulsory on all cars with no option to turn them off.

7 5 7

3,253 posts

113 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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See it all the time, especially now the darker days draw in - such a manufacturers oversight - Volvo have had them for years, both front and rear lights as many are aware.

Why is it some manufacturers (most tbh) just have the front DRL's on with no consideration to the rears? Seems bizarre!

I run my lights on permanently anyway these days, switched to on as soon as I start, no auto function on my shed, gives my car more presence with ever increasing self entitled drivers "not seeing me" on the roads, pulling out on me.

kambites

67,736 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I never understood the logic behind DRLs being front-only. Rear-only I could just about have understood, but not front-only.

CraigyMc

16,557 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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7 5 7 said:
Why is it some manufacturers (most tbh) just have the front DRL's on with no consideration to the rears? Seems bizarre!
Because that's the type approval regulation they are manufacturing to, since Feb 2011.

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kambites

67,736 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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steveo3002 said:
auto lights would fix this
They would if they worked reliably, but in my experience while they're fine at coming on when light levels reduce, they often don't switch on when visibility drops for other reasons which arguably makes them worse than useless because people come to rely on them.

CraigyMc

16,557 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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kambites said:
steveo3002 said:
auto lights would fix this
They would if they worked reliably, but in my experience while they're fine at coming on when light levels reduce, they often don't switch on when visibility drops for other reasons which arguably makes them worse than useless because people come to rely on them.
They work 100% reliably on my BMW. Other experiences are available.

4.7AMV8

2,144 posts

168 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I now admit to being thick! I travel on the motorways a lot and recently with the darker days noticed cars at twilight that warrant lights-should-be-on situation driving down the M6 with no lights on on the rear but lights on the front. I curse them for not maintaining their lights/cars.

Of course!! Stupid front only DLR's!

kambites

67,736 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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CraigyMc said:
They work 100% reliably on my BMW. Other experiences are available.
Interesting, do you know how they work? Do they use some sort of radar system to detect mist, etc.? It would have to be incredibly sensitive.

Baron Von Alders

325 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Auto lights aren't always the answer. I have them and they get confused by fog and changing weather situations where, in fog for example, it can be bright out, but visibility is limited.

I've had to over-ride mine a few times to turn the lights on when they've been needed but haven't activated and I'm still running on just DRLs, so unless they get more intelligent they will still need human intervention!

jamei303

3,016 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Jazoli said:
Me too, auto lights should be compulsory on all cars with no option to turn them off.
Mine are like this, no off option.

It's annoying in e.g. multi-story car parks where you can't be on DRLs only and the headlights come on, dazzling people as you go on the ramps etc.. Or you go through a darker patch of tree-lined road briefly and the headlights flash on and off.

Hammersia

1,564 posts

17 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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magpies said:
With the advent of DLR's and dashboards that light up when turning the ignition on, we now have the phenomenon of cars being driven in the dark/rain/fog etc. without rear lights.
A real step back in road safety.
Most of this could have been avoided if the manufacturers had included the rear lights with DLR's.
In 'olden' times it was usual to turn on the lights when the dashboard clocks were too dim.
Nonsense, the mandatory light sensing auto switch on is a vast improvement compared to a few years ago, DRL is nothing to do with it. The only time this ever happens is when a car comes back from an MOT, the rest of the time every modern vehicle just sits there on the auto selector all the time.

There are lots of genuine road safety issues, lighting is not one of them.