RE: Tesla 'Cyberbeast' gets 845hp and 320-mile range
RE: Tesla 'Cyberbeast' gets 845hp and 320-mile range
Friday 1st December 2023

Tesla 'Cyberbeast' gets 845hp and 320-mile range

First production Cybertrucks have been handed over to customers. But Tesla is just getting started


Given it’s been four years since Tesla unveiled its wilfully futuristic pickup, it probably did not matter that it was marginally behind schedule with a live online stream of its first customer handovers. The so-called Cybertruck has been beset by delays throughout its development, and on an earnings call earlier this week, CEO Elon Musk made it clear that issues remained: “There will be enormous challenges in reaching volume production with the Cybertruck and then in making a Cybertruck cashflow-positive.” 

But that’s very much Tesla’s problem. It still reckons it will reach its targeted production of 250,000 units per year by 2025; what we’re (mildly) more interested in is the devil in the detail - because, until Thursday night, the manufacturer had been remarkably tight-lipped about the technical specification, aside from the fact that its new pickup would provide 11,000lbs of towing capacity (or 4,990kg) and be able to carry 2,500lbs (or 1,134kg) on its composite truck bed. Now, with the first customers receiving the cars they must’ve preordered yonks ago, we know a good deal more about it. 

More truck than truck, Musk called it during the presentation - but also ‘more sports car than a sports car’. Not least because the Cybertruck is claimed to have more torsional stiffness than a McLaren P1 thanks to the Tesla-designed stainless steel alloy used in its construction (which also makes it bulletproof - or ‘bullet-tough’ as Musk prefers). It ought to be strong if we’re going on kerbweight: the flagship tri-motor derivative weighs in at 6,843lbs - or 3,103kg. Not astonishingly heavy in a world of enormous Super Duty trucks - or when you consider the amount of tech onboard, which includes adaptive air suspension, four-wheel steering, locking differentials etc - but, still: astonishingly heavy from where we’re sitting. 

Somewhat inevitably, that doesn’t limit its performance much. Tesla has dubbed its range-topper the ‘Cyberbeast’ and with an output of 845hp it lives up to the name. During the presentation, Tesla showed a film of the pickup beating an (unidentified) Porsche 911 over a quarter-mile - while towing a Porsche 911. Gimmicky, sure - but indicative of a claimed 0-60mph time of 2.6 seconds (as ever, that’s with the rollout subtracted). The range is somewhat less impressive at an estimated 320 miles, but there’s a fairly mediocre 0.34 drag coefficient to cope with, and, again, that kerbweight. A ‘range-extender’ is promised that ought to improve that figure to beyond 440 miles, though we were not told precisely how this will work (it's been suggested that it's an additional, external battery pack). Tesla did not specify the capacity of the onboard batteries, although it did suggest that they could recover up to 136 miles of range with just 15 minutes of supercharging. 

Pricing was finally revealed: the Cyberbeast starts at $99,990 - or around £79k. Beneath it there is the option of a dual-motor All-Wheel Drive version with 600hp or a single-motor Rear-Wheel Drive model, although the latter won’t be available till 2025 and will likely only manage 250 miles of range and 6.5 seconds to 60mph for a $60,990 sticker price - around £48k. Which makes the mid-tier AWD variant seem like a reasonable choice based on a 340-mile range (or 470 miles when range extended) and a 0-60mph time of 4.1 seconds. It’s even a tiny bit lighter. At 2,995kg. 

But that doesn’t come cheap at $79,990 for that - or around £63k - and, as with the Cyberbeast, Tesla reckons you’ll take delivery at some point in 2024. Whether that’s accurate or not remains to be seen. You still can’t actually order one; Tesla still asking for a fully refundable £250 to ‘reserve now’. Musk previously suggested that 200,000 people had done just that. For now, his firm has united just 10 of them with Cybertrucks, having initially promised that deliveries would begin in 2021. But tonight he celebrated regardless: “I think it’s our best product; the most unique thing on the road. The future should look like the future.” Now Tesla just needs to make it arrive in the present. 


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modeller

Original Poster:

547 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Can't see this being road legal in the UK .. or I hope it's not !

BananaFama

4,994 posts

109 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Nope !

Looks ridiculous ,weighs around 4 times my car .

redcard

The USA can keep this to themselves .

hu8742

366 posts

155 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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It's just as hideous in the flesh as it is on paper! Specs and price are not really up to much and the design makes it very impractical as a truck. Of course they'll sell a few but the launch and reaction of reservation holders on the Forums is very underwhelming.

Let's call it out, this is a FAIL.

Ray_Aber

940 posts

306 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I’d rather have 320hp and 845 miles of range….

eliot

11,995 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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will any variant even get type approval in europe?

V 02

2,420 posts

90 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I am genuinely a supporter of Teslas but I really can’t understand the Cybertruck. It looks like Clarkson Hammond and May’s “Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust” (Geoff) was a pick up truck.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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The Article said:
3,103kg
...wow! eek

David87

7,025 posts

242 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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I get that many will absolutely fking hate this thing (for myriad reasons), but personally I’d love one. biggrin Would be mega to cart the family around in… five proper seats, all that storage space, tons of performance etc. etc.

I doubt we’ll see it in the UK in its current form, but who knows! Loads of doubters said it would never happen at all and yet here we are.

Also, this is the “Range Extender” - an additional battery that occupies about 1/3 of the bed.

otolith

68,965 posts

234 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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It’s a hideous bloated monstrosity, but it’s aimed at a market where that comes as standard. It’s not for us.

V 02

2,420 posts

90 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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eliot said:
will any variant even get type approval in europe?
Most likely not coming to Europe due to pedestrian safety regs

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

138 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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I still can't get the proportions to work for me.

Also, something about Elon has always made my skin crawl. Stupid reason not buy one of his cars, since I'm told they're very good, but I'd just rather not.

wistec1

799 posts

71 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Looks hideous like a ffin door wedge or a slab of Stilton cheese. Buy that range extender and off you piss and when you get there because you've got more range you can foff some more.

Moss Feen

270 posts

194 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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FUGLY as hell

hu8742

366 posts

155 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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David87 said:
Also, this is the “Range Extender” - an additional battery that occupies about 1/3 of the bed.
And the spare wheel that will occupy the rest of the bed... doesn't leave much room for 'truck' stuff!

ST330

402 posts

41 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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If you passed your test, in the UK, after 1st Jan. '97 and have a B licence your total trailer weight is going to be limited to 1,147kgs with a truck weighing 3,103kgs.

That is going to be a very lightweight 911 being towed on a braked trailer.

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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The launch concept is quite smart.

So you release a few which instantly acquire mythical status from Tesla fans and are in some instances flipped for big money - this gives the vehicle a cachet. The vehicle now has the appearance of massive success with few deliveries - all going to support the share price.

If you did a normal launch with hundreds of thousands rolling off the lines, any deficiencies would also be very quickly noted by real world users who in truck land are quick to speak up, while you would also get a very real understanding of the actual demand. Yes I know - but a $100 refundable deposit is a long way from handing over $80k. Let's say its only OK and real volume falls short - that would be a big miss for Tesla and they were already under margin pressure in their last earnings. Of course it might be a huge success, but it will be impossible to tell for quite some time to come.

I would have one I think - but I'm someone who would like a truck style vehicle but am not a 'truck need' person, it would basically be an open back SUV.

Edited by Numeric on Friday 1st December 06:06

Merry

1,512 posts

218 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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ST330 said:
If you passed your test, in the UK, after 1st Jan. '97 and have a B licence your total trailer weight is going to be limited to 1,147kgs with a truck weighing 3,103kgs.

That is going to be a very lightweight 911 being towed on a braked trailer.
Everyone has b+e entitlement now I believe.

Was it not to take the strain off testing centres so they could get more LGV/HGV tests through because of the driver shortage?

Anyway, as someone else said, the more hate this gets the more I quite like it. Miles to big for the UK though, obviously.

Kipsrs

712 posts

79 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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otolith said:
It’s a hideous bloated monstrosity, but it’s aimed at a market where that comes as standard. It’s not for us.
Here here!

aston addict

472 posts

188 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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dunnoreally said:
I still can't get the proportions to work for me.

Also, something about Elon has always made my skin crawl. Stupid reason not buy one of his cars, since I'm told they're very good, but I'd just rather not.
Nope, it’s a very valid reason! Why give that crook any more money and support his frauds? And besides the cars are rubbish. This one especially.

SDK

3,526 posts

283 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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People shouldn’t take this truck too seriously !

Got to love the Cybertruck launch event QTR mile race - quicker than a new 911, whilst towing a 911






Edited by SDK on Friday 1st December 06:48