RE: Manual BMW M3 (E46) CSL for sale
RE: Manual BMW M3 (E46) CSL for sale
Sunday 3rd December 2023

Manual BMW M3 (E46) CSL for sale

The SMG arguably holds the E46 back from true greatness. Here's what could have been


A few months ago, PH's own Matt Bird pitched the new, manual BMW M2 against the SMG-equipped E46 M3 CSL to see if Munich’s latest (and last) combustion-only M-car could topple the mighty Coupe Sport Lightweight. Both straight-six-powered, both occupying a similar footprint, both representing the end of their respective eras. But (boot-lip spoiler alert) the M2 got Matt’s vote, which naturally prompted a, er, healthy discussion in the comments. 

There’s a multitude of reasons as to why the M2 got the nod over the CSL, so it’s definitely worth giving the twin test a read if you’re seriously contemplating between the two, but the main factor that held the CSL back - and always has - was its semi-automated manual gearbox. BMW’s SMG-II was far from stellar when it arrived on the E46 generation, and its fitment on the CSL, the pinnacle of what many consider to be the greatest M car of all time, was highly controversial both then and now. While flicking paddles to change gear was in line with the CSL’s track-honed intent, slow, dimwitted shifts were not. If only it had been offered with a manual ‘box…

So too thought Darragh Doyle: founder of Everything M3s and the master of E46 M3 manual conversions. Turns out it isn’t an entirely outlandish idea, given that an SMG uses the same transmission as the manual M3, only with a hydraulic pump to shift gears and a computer to tell it when to do so. That doesn’t mean it’s easy (or cheap) to switch from paddles to a knob, especially if you want to go the whole hog and install the correct steering wheel, but given the rave reviews manual-converted CSLs have garnered, it certainly sounds like a job worth doing.

Or, Even better, find a car that’s already had a manual swap done, like this one here. Not only does this 2004 car benefit from an Everything M3s manual conversion, it’s also been fitted with the specialist’s 4.1 differential - a hugely popular upgrade that shortens the final drive, meaning more time spent basking in that glorious carbon intake noise. Power from the S54 in-line six remains unchanged, so that’s 360hp at 7,900rpm pushing along just 1,385kg. This one might be a touch heavier, as it’s been fitted with the optional Bose sound system and air con, but you’ll be using your left leg and shifting gears yourself to notice. Or care.

But wait, there’s more. During its conversion, the car underwent ‘light restoration work’, mainly around reinforcing the rear-axle carrier panel: notoriously problematic on E46 M3s and, if left untreated, can be a mighty expensive fix. The rest of the car looks utterly sublime in the pictures provided, and if you needed any proof that it drives well, this very CSL was the star of Harry Metcalfe’s review of the Everything M3s manual conversion kit. Safe to say, he wasn’t disappointed.

Nor will you be when you have a peek at the asking price. It’s £86,995, which actually makes it the cheapest CSL currently for sale on PH. It’s the only manual one, too (no surprise as only 19 of the 422 UK cars are said to have been converted), and it’s not like it’s been driven to the Moon and back either; the dash reads 40,500 miles, though the ad claims that it’s only covered 500 miles since the conversion. So not only is it on the cheaper end of the CSL spectrum, it’s covered relatively few miles and shouldn’t suffer from the big issue that afflicts so many E46s. Oh, and it’ll probably be the best-driving M car there’s ever been. Quick, before others cotton on... 


SPECIFICATION | BMW M3 CSL (MANUAL CONVERSION)

Engine: 3,246cc in-line six
Transmission: six-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 360@7,900rpm
Torque (lb ft): 273@4,900rpm
MPG: 23.7 (stock)
CO2: 287g/km (stock)
Year registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 40,500
Price new: £58,455
Yours for: £86,995

See the original advert here

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anonymous-user

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84 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Seven7

107 posts

37 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Strange start to the thread.

With regard to the actual car, while the manual version appeals on paper, I personally can't stand BMW manual boxes. Never got on with them.

GreatScott2016

2,526 posts

118 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Beautiful design the CSL. I have no issue with BMW manuals either, even Chris Harris was complimentary testing the new M2 in manual guise. The CSL is also one of the few cars that make silver look appealing smile

sifocus

103 posts

204 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Stunning car

jwwbowe

705 posts

202 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Amusing comments. That aside this looks great, can’t see the logic of original SMG cars reflecting a higher price than a manual conversion, when clearly a well done manual is superior.

My regular E46 M3 manual was a fantastic thing and it didn’t have any of the special bits the CSL gets. Will say the manual box itself wasn’t the best shift ever (it’s no S2000) and my slightly leggy example didn’t like going from 1st to 2nd in the cold until warmed up, but I’m sure this example doesn’t suffer that.

With regular manual E46 M3s priced so high in comparison to SMGs is it cheaper to buy a SMG and have the conversion done?

ballans

939 posts

135 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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I’ve had both SMG and manual versions. Unfortunately not a CSL though.
The SMG really isn’t that bad once you’ve learned how to get the best out of it but out of preference I would have the manual.
Given some of prices I’ve seen recently for CSLs this looks remarkably good value. Probably won’t find a better example that you mind putting a few miles on.

ChrisCh86

1,128 posts

74 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Go go go go!

A bargain, given the price of an unmodified E46 CSL. If I had the cash, I'd be putting down a deposit right now...

ballans

939 posts

135 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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jwwbowe said:
Amusing comments. That aside this looks great, can’t see the logic of original SMG cars reflecting a higher price than a manual conversion, when clearly a well done manual is superior.

My regular E46 M3 manual was a fantastic thing and it didn’t have any of the special bits the CSL gets. Will say the manual box itself wasn’t the best shift ever (it’s no S2000) and my slightly leggy example didn’t like going from 1st to 2nd in the cold until warmed up, but I’m sure this example doesn’t suffer that.

With regular manual E46 M3s priced so high in comparison to SMGs is it cheaper to buy a SMG and have the conversion done?
I agree the manual shift isn’t the best in the world but it’s ok. I always found BMW manuals to be a bit notchy.
If you can do a lot of the conversion yourself then it would definitely work out cheaper. I last Looked into it about 8 years ago and conversions were quite popular and not beyond a skilled DIYer. If you had to pay a specialist it worked out about the same as buying a manual. Might be different now.

Bloxxcreative

568 posts

75 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Can imagine it's a lot of fun. Worse ways to spend that sort of money.

Pflanzgarten

7,616 posts

55 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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The SMG isn’t that bad, as above once you learn to drive around it’s foibles and don’t treat it as an automatic.

It does however take away one important part of driving for me and that is enjoying a manual gear change.

When I sold mine, I did think about buying one back and getting this done-at the time you could’ve been all in at just over £35k (I think I sold my CSL for £21k on 33k miles!), it was still the same chap who did this one I think back then although he’d only done 1 or 2 cars.

Same thing as now though, it was 996 GT3 money and I just felt the GT3 was a better overall package for the money-despite the general loveliness of all those special CSL parts.

I also agree on this vintage of BMWs not having the nicest manual shift, a sort of long throw rubbery-ness that wasn’t that pleasant.

JD2329

511 posts

198 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Close to peak car in my opinion - although a manual E46 CS with a few tweaks is a more cost effective way of getting a similar result.

Robertb

3,861 posts

268 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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I enjoyed Harry Metcalfe’s video… that passed me by at release.

I like how the E46 M3 sounds epic inside but quite muted outside… shows there is so much more to a great engine note than some stupidly loud exhaust.

What a car. I’m actually surprised a man of Harry Metcalfes means hasn’t bought it given his enthusiasm for it!

Hard to imagine losing money on this. Its as rare as an F40.

Escort3500

13,504 posts

175 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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From the days when BMW designed good looking cars

Pflanzgarten

7,616 posts

55 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Robertb said:
I like how the E46 M3 sounds epic inside but quite muted outside… shows there is so much more to a great engine note than some stupidly loud exhaust.
Mine was standard but extremely loud as I recall, there was an induction bark at a certain rpm that if you knew what to do would crank necks for a couple of hundred yards. That induction noise was like half a McLaren F1 engine.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,628 posts

173 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Lovely of course and having had an e30/35/46 M3 and M2C for that money I’d always go Stuttgart (as I have done).

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
Lovely of course and having had an e30/35/46 M3 and M2C for that money I’d always go Stuttgart (as I have done).
I agree, if you want something with only 2 decent seats instead of 4, at this price I'd definitely be going down the Porsche route, as nice as the CSL is.

Slowlygettingit

945 posts

71 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Had 2 e46 m3 late 2000s. Always wanted a CSL at the time. Nearly took one as a part payment to a house we were selling that the buyer couldn’t afford in £££’s but then he decided he couldn’t bear to be parted from it.

To these eyes they look bmw perfection. And with the manual conversion it would be the 2nd lottery win purchase. And then a nice restomod e9 as my daily.

CRA1G

7,246 posts

225 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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GreatScott2016 said:
Beautiful design the CSL. I have no issue with BMW manuals either, even Chris Harris was complimentary testing the new M2 in manual guise. The CSL is also one of the few cars that make silver look appealing smile
I agree... I don't have the CSL but my E46 M3 is Manual as is my New M2...driving

Kettmark

929 posts

183 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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I'm fortunate enough to have a csl. As great as these cars are, the current asking prices are crazy.

Earthdweller

19,436 posts

156 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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It’s a hard one for me to judge really, £87k seems an awful lot of money for a 20 year old 3 series BMW … yep I get that it’s an M3 and a CSL .. but also one that has had the originality removed and surely to some that is a negative value wise

I don’t know, I’m kind of one the fence about it as well for £87k for something that would be a weekend toy the world is your oyster really ( I’ve been browsing TVR Griffiths for hair raising Sunday blasts for less than 1/4 of that price)

For me there’s be a lot completing for my money at that level or even less .. now if it were an E30 M3 I might revise my opinion smile