RE: Skoda Octavia 4x4 | Shed of the Week
RE: Skoda Octavia 4x4 | Shed of the Week
Friday 15th December 2023

Skoda Octavia 4x4 | Shed of the Week

A second showing for Skoda's everyman hero - but there's always good reason for betting on Czech


If you're feeling a sense of déja vu right now, yes, this is the second Octavia we've had in the last month, but that's not because Shed has been more distracted than usual by thoughts of taking his large package over to the postmistress's place for a special delivery. He insists there's method in his madness.

That other Octavia was a vRS hatch. This one is an estate, which means massive practicality. It's a 4x4, which means massive capability on or off the road. And it's a 1.8 TSI, which means massive – er, we'll get into that in a minute.

At first, Shed thought this was an ex-police car, the main reason for this insightful deduction being the name of the selling garage, Ex-Police Car Centre. In fact, the vendors say that it isn’t ex-plod, which means we can shortcircuit the hoary old discussion about whether police cars are modified. Maybe the odd sneaky remap was done in the past. It’s rumoured that Volvo did that to at least some of its cars that were on the Constabulary Line. Shed thinks it’s an urban myth nowadays and that there’ll be people on the forum with more informed thoughts than him. 

So much for not having that discussion. Anyway, the Skoda is one of two non-cop cars on EPCC’s site, the other one being a black Jeep Wrangler. The rest of their stock is all in BIB white and includes an incredibly clean looking 2018 Discovery with 318,000 miles on it, a mildly pimped 66,000-mile 3.5 V8 110 Defender, and a Transit van that’s probably housed some real pimps in its built-in prison cell, which comes complete with a polite ‘Mind Your Head’ safety sticker. The cell can be removed, apparently, but for reasons that he isn't prepared to go into Shed says he would happily take it as it comes. 

Back to the Octavia. 'Using oil' is a phrase you'll see in quite a few TSI car ads. At least, you should see that phrase on there if sellers are being honest, because they're known for using oil. Even VAG knew them for it. Dealers were told to explain that the engine was perfectly entitled, and indeed designed, to use half a litre of oil every 1,000km, or 625 miles in British, and what was wrong with that. Well, even if you agreed that such conspicuous consumption was OK, the problem was that some TSIs were burning through twice that amount of the slippery stuff.

Sometimes you'd be lucky and get a used one that wasn't using any oil, but that might be because it had had a warranty replacement of its pistons, rings, oil spray jets and even rods, post-2011 pistons having wider-diameter piston pins. You might think that this warranty activity rather undermined VAG’s claim that they were designed to glug gallons of oil. TSI owners who have been there and done that recommend 5W40 rather than the 5W35 that they are often run on, not as a complete cure but as a way to hopefully staunch the flow a bit.

It's a pity, because oil consumption apart these 1.8 TSI 4x4 Octavia estates were, and still are, very capable cars. They came out in early 2009 with the Superb-inspired Octavia facelift and the latest series-four Haldex AWD system from the Audi TT. There was raised suspension, tougher suspension and extra underbody protection. The 160hp 1.8 TSI was regarded as the best engine choice, being both smoother and quieter than either the 1.9 or 2.0 diesel and offering 184lb ft of torque at a satisfyingly low 1,500rpm. The 0-62mph took 8.1sec in most conditions and it whirred along from there to 135mph. Official average fuel consumption was just under 37mpg.

The slick operation of the AWD plus the brilliant passenger and cargo space helped these 1.8 TSIs to sell well in the lumpier sections of Europe like Switzerland and Austria, but they're rare in the UK. During the course of what he laughingly calls research Shed saw just one more 1.8 TSI 4x4 estate for sale in the UK. That was the same year and colour as our 81,000-miler but had 16,000 more miles on it. Its price was £4,250. Our shed is £1,995. That £2,255 difference buys a lot of oil, even at today's prices. It might even pay for an out-of-warranty warranty-style rebuild.

Last January's test at 59,000 miles was a clean pass. The last of its three owners has rattled up an impressive 22,000 miles since then. We're told there's a service history. That might not show how much oil has been used, but the fact that it's knocked out nearly twice the annual average bodes well for its reliability. All you need to do is pluck up your courage, lay down your £1,995, and buy shares in the oil company of your choice. 


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Dale487

Original Poster:

1,469 posts

153 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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The perfect winter car & beyond?

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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The infotainment system looks similar to Volkswagen kit. Is it as dire to use?

Konan

2,693 posts

176 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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The main consumable on the company one was black electrical tape. If you didn't apply enough to the dash the glare of the warning lights made night driving impossible wink

SirGriffin

256 posts

98 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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My Vauxhall Vectra had similar oil consumption problems, and Vauxhall also said it was "perfectly acceptable" and within design parameters.

Trouble is, these days oil is expensive, and if you are doing a lot of miles it's a significant factor in the running costs. And it's very embarrassing having to explain why you have a boot full of empty oil containers...

In the end I stopped doing oil changes because I reckoned it was using so much it was pointless "servicing" it!

Utterly ridiculous engineering and poor production quality, it's why I've never fallen for the hype surrounding VW products.

D414JLJ

16 posts

88 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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What a steal

Nick111B

8 posts

96 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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£20k for a 318k Disco5…..shakes head in disbelief

SteveTTT

125 posts

166 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Perfect dog car. Tempted.

yme402

657 posts

132 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Sensible shed.

v8ben

61 posts

106 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Great shed, interesting and pratical in one

The Dictator

1,491 posts

170 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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That strikes me as an absolute bargain if it isn't hiding something unpleasant. Pretty much peak shed from my perspective.

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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I've had two very low mile for year cars and both were maintenance nightmares. All cars can be unreliable so a well cared for but regularly driven example is for me peak shed.

This tugs hard, but my full driveway says otherwise.

Also shows how a bit of tidying really lifts the pictures.

cerb4.5lee

44,729 posts

210 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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I'd imagine this to be a very decent shed/winter runaround for someone for sure.

Rob 131 Sport

4,874 posts

82 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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I do like the practical nature of Skoda’s from this era. However I wouldn’t want the complexity and weight of the 4x4.

Ecosseven

2,370 posts

247 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Good shed. VAG eventually fixed the oil consumption issues - my Seat Leon has the Gen 3 EA888 1.8 TSI and it doesn't need any oil top ups between services.

bmv6197

100 posts

133 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Unless it has had a warranty engine rebuild, you’ll need to factor that into your running costs. Those Gen 1 and Gen 2 EA888 engines will keeping consuming more & more oil and then you’re replacing fouled catalytic converters and spark plugs on an even more regular basis until you bite the bullet and get the top-end rebuilt (or scrap it).

And the suggestion the cost of new pistons, rings, PCV valve, (and all the other parts that weren’t correctly designed in the first place) can be covered by the £2200 lower price might have been true a few years ago, but in a post-Covid world, that price probably just covers the mechanic taking the plastic cover off the oily engine and sucking air through his teeth….

Seems like a bargain, too good to be true? There’s a reason for that… and this dealer knows it.

Shame - great shed otherwise.

Taz73

500 posts

42 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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This really isn't a shed, actually seems too cheap, as the other one mentioned at close to twice the price attests to.
Makes you wonder if there's something wrong with it.

86wasagoodyear

988 posts

126 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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I laughed out loud at taking the van as it comes. Haha, thanks Shed !
We had a Scout one of these, but the 2.0d so only burnt oil that came from pumps. It was great family transport for hacking across Europe between Swiss & Swedish winters, and was so Tardis-like that it was only half-filled by the scary amount of gubbins you always have with 2 kids under 3.

mooseracer

2,793 posts

200 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Taz73 said:
This really isn't a shed, actually seems too cheap, as the other one mentioned at close to twice the price attests to.
Makes you wonder if there's something wrong with it.
The fact it's using enough oil to be mentioned in the advert might be something to do with it

el romeral

2,183 posts

167 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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A very decent shed which has a lot going for it, with decent space, traction, pace, price and economy. Looks good too but maybe some slightly larger wheels would improve that further.
Shed is fortunate to receive such good postal service, especially this time of yearxmas

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

138 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Is this really "supremely capable" off road? Haldex on an Octavia surely doesn't magically turn it into a Daihatsu Fourtrak!