Doing discs/pads myself. Would this invalidate warranty?
Doing discs/pads myself. Would this invalidate warranty?
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aturnick54

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1,328 posts

58 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Plan to do my discs and pads myself this weekend, car is under warranty by dealer it was purchased from (although is not a main dealer, an independent).

Had a look through the wording in the warranty booklet. It says: "The vehicle must be regularly serviced at a VAT registered garage in accordance with the manufacturer's recommendations. After servicing becomes due, you have a maximum of 30 days or 1000 miles (whichever is sooner), to have the service completed. Please refer to your vehicle's handbook for service schedule. Failure to comply with the above service schedule will invalidate this guarantee."

From what I can tell, discs and pads are not classed as a service item and are not mentioned in the service schedule. They are more a consumable, like tyres and wipers.

Would this cause me any issues with the warranty?

NFT

1,324 posts

52 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Keen to hear as I agree with your logic, they are consumables, always thought service schedule was purely an engine and gearbox thing. Possibly brake fluid being included of course.

Plus when dealers sell used cars with full service history, brakes and tyres aren't mentioned unless it helps sale, I.E, just been done.

Limpet

6,624 posts

191 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Brake pads and discs are consumables and are not linked to the service schedule at all beyond a visual inspection of condition and wear. They are also not covered under most warranties as they are considered a wear and tear item.

The point being, they don't need to be replaced at a set time or mileage interval like oil or spark plugs.

Fit genuine parts, and you'll be fine.

There is a very slight chance that if you had, say, a caliper fail under warranty someone might start asking questions about who did the work, but unless you have an issue directly related to the pads and discs, it won't even come up.

Beethree

831 posts

119 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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aturnick54 said:
Plan to do my discs and pads myself this weekend, car is under warranty by dealer it was purchased from (although is not a main dealer, an independent).

Had a look through the wording in the warranty booklet. It says: "The vehicle must be regularly serviced at a VAT registered garage in accordance with the manufacturer's recommendations. After servicing becomes due, you have a maximum of 30 days or 1000 miles (whichever is sooner), to have the service completed. Please refer to your vehicle's handbook for service schedule. Failure to comply with the above service schedule will invalidate this guarantee."

From what I can tell, discs and pads are not classed as a service item and are not mentioned in the service schedule. They are more a consumable, like tyres and wipers.

Would this cause me any issues with the warranty?
Only if you fk it up and do something that creates a problem that otherwise would be covered under warranty.

Venisonpie

4,844 posts

112 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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The key is using OEM quality parts (don't need to be OEM but of the same standard). Many fleets are maintained in house and will retain warranties the same way.

BertBert

21,272 posts

241 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Venisonpie said:
The key is using OEM quality parts (don't need to be OEM but of the same standard). Many fleets are maintained in house and will retain warranties the same way.
Just curious, how do you ascertain that?

Sebring440

3,216 posts

126 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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BertBert said:
Venisonpie said:
The key is using OEM quality parts (don't need to be OEM but of the same standard). Many fleets are maintained in house and will retain warranties the same way.
Just curious, how do you ascertain that?
He's confusing factory new car warranties with dealer-applied used-car insurance warranties.

the-norseman

15,835 posts

201 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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If your car goes in for an engine issue they aren't going to say warranty has been invalidated because the brake discs have been changed or pads. Just do it and forgot about it.

832ark

1,247 posts

186 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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the-norseman said:
If your car goes in for an engine issue they aren't going to say warranty has been invalidated because the brake discs have been changed or pads. Just do it and forgot about it.
Unless Porsche hehe Sorry sir, we can’t warranty your blown engine as you didn’t use Porsche brand screen wash hehe

Panamax

9,781 posts

64 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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aturnick54 said:
Plan to do my discs and pads myself this weekend, car is under warranty by dealer it was purchased from (although is not a main dealer, an independent).
Since your "independent warranty" probably isn't worth the paper it's written on the risk seems modest.

InitialDave

15,122 posts

149 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Unless you put it in for a warranty claim on something like a duff calliper, I doubt they'd even notice.

Alex@POD

6,454 posts

245 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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From what you wrote the warranty paper states that the car must be serviced by a dealer at the service intervals, not that only a dealer can work on it during the warranty period... Crack on I say.

the-norseman

15,835 posts

201 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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832ark said:
Unless Porsche hehe Sorry sir, we can’t warranty your blown engine as you didn’t use Porsche brand screen wash hehe
100%, Porsche told me my warranty would be invalid because I had fitted mesh grills on my 981 Cayman S that protected the radiator and also a black vinyl sunstrip.

CanAm

14,021 posts

302 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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the-norseman said:
100%, Porsche told me my warranty would be invalid because I had fitted mesh grills on my 981 Cayman S that protected the radiator and also a black vinyl sunstrip.
Despite the fact that the grilles are likely to lessen the chance of Warranty claims. I'd like to see how that would stand-up in court, especially the sunstrip!

ferret50

2,884 posts

39 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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CanAm said:
the-norseman said:
100%, Porsche told me my warranty would be invalid because I had fitted mesh grills on my 981 Cayman S that protected the radiator and also a black vinyl sunstrip.
Despite the fact that the grilles are likely to lessen the chance of Warranty claims. I'd like to see how that would stand-up in court, especially the sunstrip!
Does the sunstrip have James and Jane written on it?

If so, not only does it bugger the dealer warranty, it is also very council!

biglaugh






aturnick54

Original Poster:

1,328 posts

58 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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Alex@POD said:
From what you wrote the warranty paper states that the car must be serviced by a dealer at the service intervals, not that only a dealer can work on it during the warranty period... Crack on I say.
Not a dealer, but just a VAT registered garage. And the car has recently had a full service by a garage which I have an invoice for so I've met this criteria.

As to where they draw the line I've no idea. If they require consumable parts to be fitted by a garage too, that would include wiper blades. Which would be ridiculous

MikeM6

6,056 posts

132 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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CanAm said:
Despite the fact that the grilles are likely to lessen the chance of Warranty claims. I'd like to see how that would stand-up in court, especially the sunstrip!
I guess it depends on the terms when the insurance product was taken out. If it says no modifications at all and those terms are breached, then would they not be entitled to invalidate the policy (on the basis they would not have provided the insurance product at all)?

I am assuming we are not talking about new car warranty here.

Decky_Q

2,086 posts

207 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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Panamax said:
aturnick54 said:
Plan to do my discs and pads myself this weekend, car is under warranty by dealer it was purchased from (although is not a main dealer, an independent).
Since your "independent warranty" probably isn't worth the paper it's written on the risk seems modest.
Agreed, that warranty you are worried about preserving isnt worth anything as it will never pay out anyway, so wouldnt worry at all.

aturnick54

Original Poster:

1,328 posts

58 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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BertBert said:
Just curious, how do you ascertain that?
I guess by inspection? The pads I've fitted are clearly branded as Pagid, who are an OE supplier.

the-norseman

15,835 posts

201 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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ferret50 said:
Does the sunstrip have James and Jane written on it?

If so, not only does it bugger the dealer warranty, it is also very council!

biglaugh
Nope, it was just plain black.