Sidelights and foglights - where's the logic?
Sidelights and foglights - where's the logic?
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Triumph Man

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9,601 posts

198 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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I saw two people on my drive in to work this morning (so really quite dark) with sidelights and foglights, neither were going slowly. I can't understand why people would do this - I did a little experiment when I got to work and the thrown light by actual headlights was much better! (Fairly obvious really). The fact that they were going quite quick they must be outdriving their own lights fairly easily!

I am aware that the old school of thought was that in foggy conditions it was better to have light (theoretically) below the fog - in fact in my old Triumph when the headlight switch was turned to fog the headlights would go out.

Any reason at all apart from they're just idiots?

kambites

71,483 posts

251 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Triumph Man said:
Any reason at all apart from they're just idiots?
I think you got it in one.

Glosphil

4,882 posts

264 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Were the lights you saw fog lights or DRLs?

The DRLs on my Leon are surprising bright. Bright enough to drive around an unlit large car park, but not to drive at road speed.

RSTurboPaul

13,099 posts

288 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Glosphil said:
Were the lights you saw fog lights or DRLs?

The DRLs on my Leon are surprising bright. Bright enough to drive around an unlit large car park, but not to drive at road speed.
Hasn't stopped morons I've seen driving along the motorway on just DRLs, totally invisible from the back apart from reflectors, and (presumably) they think their lights are on because of 'always on' dashboards!

Triumph Man

Original Poster:

9,601 posts

198 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Glosphil said:
Were the lights you saw fog lights or DRLs?

The DRLs on my Leon are surprising bright. Bright enough to drive around an unlit large car park, but not to drive at road speed.
Definitely fog lights - cars were a Zafira B and a Mk5 Golf GTI.

Tommo87

5,457 posts

143 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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kambites said:
Triumph Man said:
Any reason at all apart from they're just idiots?
I think you got it in one.
Yup.

SweptVolume

1,219 posts

123 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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I used to think this look was the height of cool...in the 90's...when I was 7.

RazerSauber

2,908 posts

90 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Because it's cool, innit?

People think it makes them look cool because they're morons and it's a bit different. Just makes them look like a tosser. I even saw one a few weeks ago drive right past a copper on a roundabout who couldn't have not seen them. They did absolutely nothing.

Pica-Pica

16,605 posts

114 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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There is no logic. Driving is open to the lowest abilities. More stops for lighting offences please!

disad-vantage-d

837 posts

250 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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This brings to mind a trend we've noticed with Nissan Juke drivers who seem insistent on driving around at night in perfectly normal weather conditions with THREE sets of lights (including fogs) constantly illuminated. Why???

Whataguy

1,136 posts

110 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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disad-vantage-d said:
This brings to mind a trend we've noticed with Nissan Juke drivers who seem insistent on driving around at night in perfectly normal weather conditions with THREE sets of lights (including fogs) constantly illuminated. Why???
I see a lot of this, all lights lit up.

I used to drive my MX5 around sometimes with just sidelights and lower driving lights in urban areas as it was a good enough light but that was because it was a mk1 with the pop up headlights when you put dipped lights on.

Om

2,190 posts

108 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Triumph Man said:
Definitely fog lights - cars were a Zafira B and a Mk5 Golf GTI.
Zafira B... Probably both headlight bulbs have failed so using fog lights instead.

GeniusOfLove

5,768 posts

42 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Triumph Man said:
Definitely fog lights - cars were a Zafira B and a Mk5 Golf GTI.
Two cars that have fallen firmly into ownership almost exclusively by the "mouthbreaking dimwit" demographic hehe

Red9zero

11,213 posts

87 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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A chap who used to work in our office did this on his old E30 BMW 3 series. When I asked him why, he said it made the car look lower laugh

MrBen.911

659 posts

148 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Back in the 90s I used to drive around like this in my Cavalier SRi. Not because I thought it looked cool, but because of a short in the headlight switch which caused the starter motor to operate when the headlights were on! Party piece was starting the car by turning the headlights on. Then I fixed it.

Tommo87

5,457 posts

143 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Red9zero said:
A chap who used to work in our office did this on his old E30 BMW 3 series. When I asked him why, he said it made the car look lower laugh
You should have blown his mind some more by suggesting he fold down the back seats to lower the centre of gravity, when cornering.

All the cool kids in the Maccy Ds car park were doing it.

Red9zero

11,213 posts

87 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Tommo87 said:
Red9zero said:
A chap who used to work in our office did this on his old E30 BMW 3 series. When I asked him why, he said it made the car look lower laugh
You should have blown his mind some more by suggesting he fold down the back seats to lower the centre of gravity, when cornering.

All the cool kids in the Maccy Ds car park were doing it.
Ha ! I remember that one laugh

Countdown

49,442 posts

226 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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RSTurboPaul said:
Glosphil said:
Were the lights you saw fog lights or DRLs?

The DRLs on my Leon are surprising bright. Bright enough to drive around an unlit large car park, but not to drive at road speed.
Hasn't stopped morons I've seen driving along the motorway on just DRLs, totally invisible from the back apart from reflectors, and (presumably) they think their lights are on because of 'always on' dashboards!
I nearly went into the back of somebody on the motorway because of that ^^^. it was 5am in one of the unlit areas on the M66 and it was patchy fog. The numpty hadn't realised he didnt have his headlights on, it was only when his rear reflectors lit up that I realised he was there.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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Triumph Man said:
I saw two people on my drive in to work this morning (so really quite dark) with sidelights and foglights, neither were going slowly. I can't understand why people would do this - I did a little experiment when I got to work and the thrown light by actual headlights was much better! (Fairly obvious really). The fact that they were going quite quick they must be outdriving their own lights fairly easily!

I am aware that the old school of thought was that in foggy conditions it was better to have light (theoretically) below the fog - in fact in my old Triumph when the headlight switch was turned to fog the headlights would go out.

Any reason at all apart from they're just idiots?
Forgottrn to turn them off, hardly a haning offence, better than driving with no lighys on.


Either that orthey do it on purpose to give some PH members some to moan about

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 5th February 11:44

Triumph Man

Original Poster:

9,601 posts

198 months

Monday 5th February 2024
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lancslad58 said:
Triumph Man said:
I saw two people on my drive in to work this morning (so really quite dark) with sidelights and foglights, neither were going slowly. I can't understand why people would do this - I did a little experiment when I got to work and the thrown light by actual headlights was much better! (Fairly obvious really). The fact that they were going quite quick they must be outdriving their own lights fairly easily!

I am aware that the old school of thought was that in foggy conditions it was better to have light (theoretically) below the fog - in fact in my old Triumph when the headlight switch was turned to fog the headlights would go out.

Any reason at all apart from they're just idiots?
Forgottrn to turn them off, hardly a hanginging offence, better than driving with no lighys on
Yes, but on your logic they'd be driving around on sidelights in near pitch black. On both cars I mention in my OP it would be a conscious physical act to turn the light switch to sidelights (or turn from "auto" to sidelights), and activate foglights.