Is this going to fail an MOT?
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Just noticed I’ve picked up and chip in the black area surrounding the windscreen and Sod’s Law I’m due an MOT next week. Apparently this area can’t be repaired? it’s in the area of Zona A but not in view as it’s in the black surround. Is it a fail or just an advisory…? ta for any help. 
MOT Guidance said:
You must inspect all windscreens, including windscreens that open.
How to inspect:
Sit in the driver’s seat.
Check the driver’s field of vision through the windscreen.
Check the driver’s field of vision through the front side windows.
You should only fail the windscreen if the view is significantly affected. If only the driver’s view of the sky or the bonnet is affected, it should not be rejected.
If it's in the black area and you can't see it from inside, it shouldn't fail. Likely advisory.How to inspect:
Sit in the driver’s seat.
Check the driver’s field of vision through the windscreen.
Check the driver’s field of vision through the front side windows.
You should only fail the windscreen if the view is significantly affected. If only the driver’s view of the sky or the bonnet is affected, it should not be rejected.
Cupramax said:
Evercross said:
Who told you that?
Looks to me like a prime candidate for an effective (and probably almost undetectable once completed) repair.
Halfords windscreen checker page for booking a repair.
Is it maybe that its so close to the edge that when it's filled (under pressure...?) it might just crack to the edge of the screen?Who told you that?
Looks to me like a prime candidate for an effective (and probably almost undetectable once completed) repair.
Halfords windscreen checker page for booking a repair.
Evercross said:
Cupramax said:
Apparently this area can’t be repaired?
Who told you that?Looks to me like a prime candidate for an effective (and probably almost undetectable once completed) repair.
Cost me the excess on two windscreens in 48 hours a couple of years ago.
I had a chip like that on my windscreen - on the black area, albeit in the middle rather than the driver's side. It was only ever an advisory at MOT time. I eventually replaced the screen some years later but that was only because I was respraying the car. The chip didn't lead to a crack.
Glassman said:
100% repairable.
100% Not Repairable..! I have exactly the same on a 4 roundabout old car (from Brand new), was gutted.
Took it to Autoglass, they told me they do not repair anything in the black area - end of. Even if they could, they can not get the device behind it that's required, to allow them to inject the resin, as too close to the trim for the backing 'thing' to sit correctly.
Sorry, not repairable.
jj
Cupramax said:
Glassman said:
100% repairable.
Thanks all, was hoping you might be about. I guess it must just be Halfords policy not to repair that area then.He was told it was 'too risky' because of where it is, and that it's also a large windscreen. Total rubbish.
jj. said:
Glassman said:
100% repairable.
100% Not Repairable..! I have exactly the same on a 4 roundabout old car (from Brand new), was gutted.
Took it to Autoglass, they told me they do not repair anything in the black area - end of. Even if they could, they can not get the device behind it that's required, to allow them to inject the resin, as too close to the trim for the backing 'thing' to sit correctly.
Sorry, not repairable.
jj
jj. said:
Glassman said:
100% repairable.
100% Not Repairable..! I have exactly the same on a 4 roundabout old car (from Brand new), was gutted.
Took it to Autoglass, they told me they do not repair anything in the black area - end of. Even if they could, they can not get the device behind it that's required, to allow them to inject the resin, as too close to the trim for the backing 'thing' to sit correctly.
Sorry, not repairable.
jj
Autoslags: not industry standard; what they say is within their business model. The kit they use is restrictive. I would also go as far as saying their assessment of windscreen damage has condemned many repairable windscreens; well, not the ones I managed to save.
For example, they say they cannot repair on the glass perimeter. Why? Yes, the glass is weaker on the edges, but there are two reasons:
1. They cannot place a mirror behind the damage;
2. Their repair kit 'head' is about 60mm dia and relies on vacuum and therefore if the break is too close to the edge it means the circumference of that head might not have sufficient surface area to stick to. If the damage is say 20mm in, the 'head' will not have enough area to allow it to be centred on the damage.
The kit they use is restrictive. Here is an example of something they recommended for replacement:
Based on the kit they use, it's fully understandable why they rendered this Porsche 997 windscreen un-repairable.
The same damage repaired:
It's a zoomed in shot with decent resolution which shows the outline of the repair. Structurally, it is 'filled' and cured and probably stronger than the glass around it. Cosmetically it's not visible unless you're looking for it.
Glassman said:
jj. said:
Glassman said:
100% repairable.
100% Not Repairable..! I have exactly the same on a 4 roundabout old car (from Brand new), was gutted.
Took it to Autoglass, they told me they do not repair anything in the black area - end of. Even if they could, they can not get the device behind it that's required, to allow them to inject the resin, as too close to the trim for the backing 'thing' to sit correctly.
Sorry, not repairable.
jj
Autoslags: not industry standard; what they say is within their business model. The kit they use is restrictive. I would also go as far as saying their assessment of windscreen damage has condemned many repairable windscreens; well, not the ones I managed to save.
For example, they say they cannot repair on the glass perimeter. Why? Yes, the glass is weaker on the edges, but there are two reasons:
1. They cannot place a mirror behind the damage;
2. Their repair kit 'head' is about 60mm dia and relies on vacuum and therefore if the break is too close to the edge it means the circumference of that head might not have sufficient surface area to stick to. If the damage is say 20mm in, the 'head' will not have enough area to allow it to be centred on the damage.
The kit they use is restrictive. Here is an example of something they recommended for replacement:
Based on the kit they use, it's fully understandable why they rendered this Porsche 997 windscreen un-repairable.
The same damage repaired:
It's a zoomed in shot with decent resolution which shows the outline of the repair. Structurally, it is 'filled' and cured and probably stronger than the glass around it. Cosmetically it's not visible unless you're looking for it.
jj. said:
Glassman said:
100% repairable.
100% Not Repairable..! I have exactly the same on a 4 roundabout old car (from Brand new), was gutted.
Took it to Autoglass, they told me they do not repair anything in the black area - end of. Even if they could, they can not get the device behind it that's required, to allow them to inject the resin, as too close to the trim for the backing 'thing' to sit correctly.
Sorry, not repairable.
jj
Glassman said:
I'll wager my left testicle I can repair the damage in the Cupramax's image.
Autoslags: not industry standard; what they say is within their business model. The kit they use is restrictive. I would also go as far as saying their assessment of windscreen damage has condemned many repairable windscreens; well, not the ones I managed to save.
For example, they say they cannot repair on the glass perimeter. Why? Yes, the glass is weaker on the edges, but there are two reasons:
1. They cannot place a mirror behind the damage;
2. Their repair kit 'head' is about 60mm dia and relies on vacuum and therefore if the break is too close to the edge it means the circumference of that head might not have sufficient surface area to stick to. If the damage is say 20mm in, the 'head' will not have enough area to allow it to be centred on the damage.
The kit they use is restrictive. Here is an example of something they recommended for replacement:
Based on the kit they use, it's fully understandable why they rendered this Porsche 997 windscreen un-repairable.
The same damage repaired:
It's a zoomed in shot with decent resolution which shows the outline of the repair. Structurally, it is 'filled' and cured and probably stronger than the glass around it. Cosmetically it's not visible unless you're looking for it.
Autoslags: not industry standard; what they say is within their business model. The kit they use is restrictive. I would also go as far as saying their assessment of windscreen damage has condemned many repairable windscreens; well, not the ones I managed to save.
For example, they say they cannot repair on the glass perimeter. Why? Yes, the glass is weaker on the edges, but there are two reasons:
1. They cannot place a mirror behind the damage;
2. Their repair kit 'head' is about 60mm dia and relies on vacuum and therefore if the break is too close to the edge it means the circumference of that head might not have sufficient surface area to stick to. If the damage is say 20mm in, the 'head' will not have enough area to allow it to be centred on the damage.
The kit they use is restrictive. Here is an example of something they recommended for replacement:
Based on the kit they use, it's fully understandable why they rendered this Porsche 997 windscreen un-repairable.
The same damage repaired:
It's a zoomed in shot with decent resolution which shows the outline of the repair. Structurally, it is 'filled' and cured and probably stronger than the glass around it. Cosmetically it's not visible unless you're looking for it.
Glassman said:
I'll wager my left testicle I can repair the damage in the Cupramax's image.
Autoslags: not industry standard; what they say is within their business model. The kit they use is restrictive. I would also go as far as saying their assessment of windscreen damage has condemned many repairable windscreens; well, not the ones I managed to save.
For example, they say they cannot repair on the glass perimeter. Why? Yes, the glass is weaker on the edges, but there are two reasons:
1. They cannot place a mirror behind the damage;
2. Their repair kit 'head' is about 60mm dia and relies on vacuum and therefore if the break is too close to the edge it means the circumference of that head might not have sufficient surface area to stick to. If the damage is say 20mm in, the 'head' will not have enough area to allow it to be centred on the damage.
The kit they use is restrictive. Here is an example of something they recommended for replacement:
Based on the kit they use, it's fully understandable why they rendered this Porsche 997 windscreen un-repairable.
The same damage repaired:
It's a zoomed in shot with decent resolution which shows the outline of the repair. Structurally, it is 'filled' and cured and probably stronger than the glass around it. Cosmetically it's not visible unless you're looking for it.
Excellent, pity I’m nowhere near you… don’t suppose you have any contacts Dorset area?Autoslags: not industry standard; what they say is within their business model. The kit they use is restrictive. I would also go as far as saying their assessment of windscreen damage has condemned many repairable windscreens; well, not the ones I managed to save.
For example, they say they cannot repair on the glass perimeter. Why? Yes, the glass is weaker on the edges, but there are two reasons:
1. They cannot place a mirror behind the damage;
2. Their repair kit 'head' is about 60mm dia and relies on vacuum and therefore if the break is too close to the edge it means the circumference of that head might not have sufficient surface area to stick to. If the damage is say 20mm in, the 'head' will not have enough area to allow it to be centred on the damage.
The kit they use is restrictive. Here is an example of something they recommended for replacement:
Based on the kit they use, it's fully understandable why they rendered this Porsche 997 windscreen un-repairable.
The same damage repaired:
It's a zoomed in shot with decent resolution which shows the outline of the repair. Structurally, it is 'filled' and cured and probably stronger than the glass around it. Cosmetically it's not visible unless you're looking for it.
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