RE: 2024 Alpine A110 R vs. 2015 Lotus Evora GTE
RE: 2024 Alpine A110 R vs. 2015 Lotus Evora GTE
Saturday 24th February 2024

2024 Alpine A110 R vs. 2015 Lotus Evora GTE

Far costlier and a huge amount rarer, yet no more power - we've seen a sports car like the A110 R before...


Curious thing, the Alpine A110 R. It costs as much as many more powerful sports cars, has the kind of carbon-led, obsessive weight saving more commonly associated with million-pound exotica (in a compact four-cylinder sports car) and is noticeably less usable than the surprisingly civilised standard version. It really shouldn’t make any sense whatsoever - many will tell you already that it doesn’t - yet here’s the rub: it’s absolutely wonderful. Partly that's due to what it’s based on, of course, but the methodical and expensive changes have made it even more enthralling to drive. Which didn’t seem possible.

The R doesn’t have any direct rivals, really, so the opportunity to drive it alongside a mid-engined sports car of both similar quality and remit was irresistible. Nobody is buying an A110 like this because they need one, obviously, which is why a comparison-cum-celebration with a Lotus Evora was so intriguing. There are likely all sorts of options being considered if a £100k Alpine is viable, so is it really as sublime as it seems in isolation? Landmark mid-engined sports car, meet landmark mid-engined sports car. 

As is often the case with Lotus, the Evora GTE was a messy project. Originally the vision of Dany Bahar, the roadgoing GTE was going to evoke the then-new racecar with dramatic bodywork (including a little help from Mansory), almost 450hp and a sequential gearbox. The project got off the ground, with 30 in build. Before Bahar’s departure, that is - and the subsequent cancellation of the GTEs. Story goes that the abandoned cars were spotted by a subsequent MD, and a decision was taken with Lotus Motorsport to build 20 with new subframes, suspension arms and wheels, harvest 10 for spares, and use the standard powertrain. Because they weren’t as exotic as first billed, there was never an official launch, the cars offered out quietly to brand enthusiasts and eventually found homes across the globe. 

While it’s sad that the GTE didn’t leave Hethel as the car it was intended to be, there’s no such thing as a bad Evora - and certainly not one built by Lotus Motorsport. This one is number 14 of the 20, a left-hand drive auto for sale at Hofmanns of Henley. It has covered just 6,000 miles since 2015 and is an utterly stunning to behold. The Alpine of course attracts attention with its carbon deck, those snazzy wheels and the colour, but even it pales next to the Lotus. The broadening of an Evora (only the doors and roof are common from stock) elevates it from mere sports car to supercar levels of drama, low and wide and simmering with attitude. It makes the standard derivative look almost undernourished by comparison. If these cars are going to spend a lot of time off the road and in collections, which doesn’t seem unreasonable given the cost, there’s only one that’s going to be gawped at hour after hour. That the GTE kept a standard interior almost seems immaterial when you get out and see it once more. 

Moreover, nobody is considering a sports car of this kind for cabin ambience (though it should be said the Alpine’s Sabelt buckets are awesome). They’re about the driving experience and in that respect the GTE remains a masterclass. In a downpour, there can’t be a more confidence-inspiring mid-engined car out there: the exquisite composure of the damping, the glorious communication of the steering and the unerring stability of much wider tracks (110mm) means it’s anything but the intimidating road racer it might look. This Evora rides a rubbish B road better than the left-hand drive, four-cylinder Emira we tried last year. It’s a sports car exemplar because the Evora always was. With nothing more than Sport mode for a raised rev limit, more noise and slacker assists, it’s connected, plush and pliant in all scenarios. You wouldn’t change a thing about how the Evora GTE drives. 

Well, apart from the obvious bit. The standard 350hp spec of the 3.5-litre V6 can’t quite move the Evora along at a pace befitting of the GT3 look, or indeed at anywhere near the fleet-footed briskness of the Alpine. That could be addressed with some aftermarket changes, of course. What’s more of a hurdle is the six-speed auto; it’s to the Evora’s credit that the torque converter doesn’t upset the experience as much as might be expected, though there’s no escaping the fact that it’s not of the same calibre as the chassis. Taking manual control does alleviate a few problems, and the transmission’s fondness for holding a high gear is great for hearing that melodic V6 under load, though for shift speed, decisiveness and involvement, the Alpine’s dual-clutch feels like it’s from another century. It may well be. 

It says a lot about the immersive qualities of both that you aren’t immediately yearning for a manual in either case (not least because the Evora’s was never fantastic). Instead, you tend to dwell on how two cars that look fit only for race tracks can deliver such a joyous road experience, fluid and adroit when so many now seem determined to pummel the tarmac into submission. Neither are at their best at really low speed, it's true, but the genius of a well-resolved passive set-up (and well-chosen components) is evident about 100m from the national speed limit sign, where these incredibly low-slung sports cars glide and flow along the sort of less-than-perfect roads that we've seen unsettle all manner of other cars. 

For all its flaws, the Evora’s engine does highlight the character deficit of the Alpine’s four-cylinder. There aren’t any meaningful gripes with responsiveness, performance or efficiency - it’ll do 40mpg as well as 62mph in four seconds - but there's no charisma in the sound or proximity of such a humble motor. The Evora wants revs and rewards them (when the gearbox plays ball) with that familiar, baying howl. The A110 feels content short shifting and surfing the torque; more than enough for rapid progress, though never in the same compulsive league as the chassis. Granted, some would argue that a 1.8-litre four-pot will always lose out to a V6 when it comes to soul - and they're probably right - but we know there are more engaging versions of the same configuration out there. And with less daft exhaust pops.

Like the Lotus, though, any deeper concerns about the engine are swiftly dismissed after stringing a few corners together. Albeit in a different fashion, the Alpine is cheek-bitingly wonderful. It’s shorter, narrower and busier than an Evora which seems almost languid in comparison, yet is urgent and alert where the GTE is softer in its reactions. They share the ability to generate implacable faith, although the way the A110 plumbs the driver into its every moment makes it impossible not to dive in headfirst. The steering is fast yet never nervous, the brake pedal exceptional, and the damping a different gravy altogether: there simply isn’t an imperfection it can’t deal with in exemplary fashion. So you go again, faster. Then faster again. Even mechanically similar Alpines don’t have this same indefatigable, motorsport-inspired feel - this must be more like an A110 R-GT rally car than the Evora is a GTE racer. A result of circumstance, sure, but the point stands nonetheless. It’s magnificent. 

That being said, it’s hardly a chore to get back to the Lotus. Save for the infotainment (never a high point) time hasn't been particularly unkind to the Evora. It still feels like an event. That perfect view out of the front, those great haunches behind. If ever there was an environment custom-made for the business of spirited driving, it's marked out by a scramble over those giant sills. There was a concern that bringing together cars so many years apart at similar money might expose the more senior Lotus, but save for a predictable deficiency in refinement and the Alpine's more rigorous build quality, it’s still supreme.

Neither makes much rational sense, of course. A 350hp Evora of any stripe is pretty wonderful (as are those with more power, come to think of it), and many cost a lot less than a GTE. Similarly, there hasn't been a bad A110 - and there’s unlikely to ever be - though there are plenty priced at half R money. They’re by and for a very select bunch of die-hards, those who adore the brand and wanted to see a great sports car brought to its ultimate evolution. The plan worked out better for one than the other, though after a day spent in their company you tend to dwell less on their differences and more on the thing that binds them together: namely the extent to which we've relied on cars like these to make an increasingly staid automotive world that bit more vibrant and interesting. 

It’s arguable how much yearning there was for an Alpine without a rear screen or a Lotus Evora that looked like a race car but went no faster. Negligible, surely - we’d have all carried on fine without them. But to have access to them even in the pouring rain is to be reminded of how much joy the truly silly stuff can bring - it was a seven-hour privilege in a way that the standard cars wouldn’t have been. You stand incredulous at the musclebound Evora, stop and stare as it growls on by menacingly; the A110 feels like it shouldn’t have numberplates given how extreme the application of carbon fibre is. If they struggle to justify their existence on paper, they do the job much better in reality by being so extreme yet so approachable as well. 

Let's hope the approach pays dividends in future, too. As Alpine commits to an all-electric future, its enthusiasm for and experience of lightweighting can only help. Central to the A110’s brilliance, and never more evident than in the R, is its lack of mass. Adopting that approach with battery-powered cars feels obligatory for retaining anything like a similar thrill behind the wheel. Alpine has effectively admitted as much. For Lotus, the GTE - despite its rarity and awkward gestation - demonstrates the way forward as well. Firstly, the Emira must have its own road racer equivalent, something like a GT4 car for the road that makes it look similarly arresting - and signs the V6 off in proper rip-roaring fashion. Secondly, as its own electrified era comes into sharper focus, those in Hethel must continue to make the case for a zero-emission sports car that exemplifies its finest traditions. Just as the GTE does not need a rip-roaring output to impress, so an electric Elise does not require 900hp. 

The genius of the Evora was in simple ingredients expertly prepared. The A110 typifies that approach, too. What a shame that Lotus and Alpine could not see eye-to-eye when it came to the business of what would come next. The GTE and R might have been built a decade apart, yet they show what can be achieved when the shackles are off and the people who really care are given free rein to make something special. Born on the track, yes - but also totally at home on a wet B road and therefore precisely as we'd want them to be. Let's hope that even apart they continue to provide Lotus and Alpine with the inspiration to do something equally memorable in the future. 


SPECIFICATION | 2023 ALPINE A110 R

Engine: 1,798cc, 4-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 300@6,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 251@2,400-6,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.9 seconds
Top speed: 177mph
Weight: 1,082kg (minimum kerbweight)
MPG: 40.3-41.5 (WLTP)
CO2: 153-160g/km
Price: £89,990

SPECIFICATION | LOTUS EVORA GTE

Engine: 3,456cc V6, supercharged
Power (hp): 350@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@4,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.7 sec
Top speed: 172mph
Weight: 1,442kg
MPG: 29.3mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 224g/km
Price: £73,950 (as tested)
(Spec for standard Evora S IPS)

Huge thanks to Hofmanns of Henley for their help with this feature. You can view their entire PH stocklist here, and the Evora ad here.

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wistec1

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798 posts

71 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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wistec1

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798 posts

71 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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The Alpine has always passed my eyes as being a bit odd in design unlike the Lotus which was a head turner from the start having said that the GTE takes those original curves to an almost bloated appearance. Of the two the Lotus appeals to me most only because of its very limited number run and that fits in with my car buying strategy.e.g 1 of 5, 1 of 14, 1 of 22, 1 of 400 1 of 60, 1 of 3 most of which for me has assured either zero depreciation or notable gains whilst using them .But even free issue if either of these cars were on my driveway they would both be up for sale.

A good editorial feature with some interesting facts even with the very evident Henley's advertising slant weaved into it.

200Plus Club

13,605 posts

308 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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90 grand for the very odd looking Alpine! Wow.
Maybe throw an Emira in against both now that prices are falling on them, prettier car and £20k less?
I'd quite like to drive an Alpine hard to see how good they actually feel, Harry Metcalfe loves the ride/handling in his reviews. Just can't quite get my head around how they look.

spikyone

1,913 posts

130 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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200Plus Club said:
90 grand for the very odd looking Alpine! Wow.
Maybe throw an Emira in against both now that prices are falling on them, prettier car and £20k less?
I'd quite like to drive an Alpine hard to see how good they actually feel, Harry Metcalfe loves the ride/handling in his reviews. Just can't quite get my head around how they look.
Also £90k for a car that's a remap away from having the same engine as the £50k entry level version. (Sure, you get improvements in other areas but someone needs to tell car makers that unpainted carbon bonnets almost always make a car look crap.)

I'm sure some will say that it's far more special than an entry level car and I wouldn't disagree but for comparison (as this is PorscheHeads wink) - an entry level Cayman is also about £50k, whilst a GT4, before it went off sale, was just over £80k. Options not included, and arguably the GT4 RS is closer to the Alpine in philosophy. But in terms of improvements over the base car there's a bigger jump in performance between a base Cayman and the GT4 than there is between the Alpines, yet a smaller difference in price.

No doubt that it's going to be a lot of fun, but IMO if you really wanted an Alpine you'd be a bit mad to spend £90k on the R against £60k for the S.

GreatScott2016

2,520 posts

118 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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No doubt great drives, but neither appeal. If pushed, Lotus every day.

S600BSB

8,387 posts

136 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Absolutely love the A110 R. Fantastic cars.

Robertb

3,853 posts

268 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Those exterior shots are excellent… great photography!


Billy_Whizzzz

2,627 posts

173 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Lotus is hideous. Alpine great but I’ll take one without the tat

Oakman

366 posts

188 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Good that PH chose an Evora to compare with the Alpine R, understandable that they picked an advertisers rare GTE model.

Perhaps a better choice of Evora would have been a GT410 or a more scarcer still GT430. A car that has the extra power and much closer to track prepped road car ethic like the Alpine.



Only 25 of these UK cars. This is the 1st one.

911Spanker

3,664 posts

46 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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A110R is a legend. Cracking cars.

LotusOmega375D

9,361 posts

183 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Still got my manual GTE, bought new direct from the factory in 2015, also on 6000 miles.



The featured white one has been for sale at Hoffmanns for several years.


trumpton7291

200 posts

33 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Evora 410 v6 manual vastly preferable to both but particularly preferable to a forced induction four cylinder auto in my view. The engine sound of that Evora 400 in the Harry’s garage video was such that I’m going to have to watch it again lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaYGanifXsk


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Xenoous

2,438 posts

88 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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I really do like the A110. Wouldn't mind one myself. However, anything more than GT spec seems to take away the appeal. Wasn't the thing that made this car great in the first instance the fact it's ride quality was second to none? Turning it into a hardened racer just seems to completely remove the USP, at least in my eyes. A fast, compliant, nimble road car just seems perfect.

Approaching near £100k, you can't possibly forget it's a powered buy a Renault Megane RS engine either... As good as it might be.

Evora wins this for me, by a long shot.

DonkeyApple

69,956 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Difficult choice actually. Neither are particularly desirable personally. The Evora always looked cheaper than it was which is never good when trying to sell aspirational sports cars, which is why they didn't sell any until a chap from China suggested they just made it look more expensive than it actually was and then suddenly it began flying off the shelves. Interior of the Lotus is not brilliant for that money either. Not sure why the infotainment is relevant. Should you actually need it and should you want something better then like wheels or body colour you just change it. These are not things to fret over in a normal world outside of home furnishings or hair colour.

The Alpine is very much a retro pastiche which is going to make its appeal more polarised. For me, if I wanted a car that harked back to a period in the 20th century to use for fun then I'd actually just buy the real thing, a car from that era. But the whole retro market is a big thing so as is normal, I'm the one out of step on that front. The real issue is that it is big money for you mother or grandmother's engine from her Motobility car. Sure the Lotus has knicked the engine from an Uber and done nothing else than plonk it strangely too high in a car, making it look dumpy but at least that was done to avoid using a 4 pot that needed turbos at the time and there was also a manual box in those Ubers which was a big offset and with shorter pipes it was always going to sound much better. Alpine want a lot of money for something where they haven't bothered to do anything with the engine other than attach a laptop when it boils down to it.

In short, neither are particularly special or exciting. They still trump the mass produced, generic, every day Porsche cars by some margin. You'd definitely be intending to keep the Alpine and the Lotus in the garage rather than dumped outside and thrashed every day before work like a ginger stepchild.

So what's the real issue? The price. Just too high for what these are which is huge fun weekend fun and budget sports cars. They just are not worth the money. That's different from appreciating why they cost so much to make. And different from not thinking they're great cars. Some things just aren't worth what the cost to create when it comes down to hard tacos and these are two excellent examples of that.

Oakman

366 posts

188 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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LotusOmega375D said:
Still got my manual GTE, bought new direct from the factory in 2015, also on 6000 miles.



The featured white one has been for sale at Hoffmanns for several years.
Your GTE looks great cool

DonkeyApple

69,956 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Oakman said:
LotusOmega375D said:
Still got my manual GTE, bought new direct from the factory in 2015, also on 6000 miles.



The featured white one has been for sale at Hoffmanns for several years.
Your GTE looks great cool
As it should averaging just 750 miles a year!! biggrin

Oakman

366 posts

188 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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DonkeyApple said:
As it should averaging just 750 miles a year!! biggrin
Just an observation DA.

Given that you appear to be prolific poster


You have must have a lot of very strong opinions on cars.

I checked out your garage as many members on here do own and have owned some sensational cars and are very well qualified and justified in their comments.

Barring 3 interesting TVR’s and the XKR, your ownership seems to major on mobile Gentleman’s Clubs - nothing wrong with that if that’s your preference.

[url|https://thumbsnap.com/9rzdpyPs[/url]

I did the mental arithmetic and worked out the black GTE has been a cherished & lightly used car. For myself I like to use them a bit more - each to their own preferences.

DonkeyApple

69,956 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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Oakman said:
DonkeyApple said:
As it should averaging just 750 miles a year!! biggrin
Just an observation DA.

Given that you appear to be prolific poster


You have must have a lot of very strong opinions on cars.

I checked out your garage as many members on here do own and have owned some sensational cars and are very well qualified and justified in their comments.

Barring 3 interesting TVR’s and the XKR, your ownership seems to major on mobile Gentleman’s Clubs - nothing wrong with that if that’s your preference.

[url|https://thumbsnap.com/9rzdpyPs[/url]

I did the mental arithmetic and worked out the black GTE has been a cherished & lightly used car. For myself I like to use them a bit more - each to their own preferences.
Yup. A few cars missing but certainly the overall trend is mid sized cars with oversized engines.

None of which have ever done big miles and some were comedy low miles akin to the Lotus above. The two that spring to mind being the Daimler which was bought by my grandfather in 1974 and a 1979 928 by my father, neither of which had ever exceeded much more than 1000 miles a year since new.

Not a fan of massive cars or I'd have had a Bentley at some point, the key focus has always been big cc engines in the smallest car practical. Hence why as cars have become larger I've stuck with German heaps as they have kept up putting the big engines in their smaller models. But nor do I fit in smaller cars comfortably, being over 6'2". Which is why when I was 21 I ended up with a TVR over a Lotus. The last time I could drive a Lotus comfortably was when I was 14 and would drive an original 7 of my father's.

My general car usage has never been every day and when they are used it's often tended to be when doing longer trips and road trips or family trips so practicality has had to play a part. Even TVRs were remarkably practical. Lots of leg room and a big boot meant you drive them miles at a time through Europe in tremendous comfort.

By the time the Evora came along so had children which meant it wasn't an option, ergo the Typhon which had loads of rear space for child seats and a practical boot for family weekends away. Only the Gran Tourismo offered the same capability back then and the TVR was going to be better built and more reliable. biggrin

Being a single father has put the kibosh on silly sports cars for the last ten years but they're now getting old enough to make a 2 seater viable once more and this is coinciding with the Emira which is looking incredibly tempting as a thing to have in the garage for getting away without children in tow. biggrin. The Alpine should also be on the radar but it was too cramped for me and to be honest, I thought the interior was too cheap for the prices being asked.

On top of all that, I definitely have a kind of power to weight ratio that I enjoy the most. Too much power and you lose the ability to have sensible fun on the roads. Too little and you're held to ransom by other road users. It was after driving an M5 estate through France and then tearing one back here that it really brought home the frustration of having loads of power that you can't get to use regularly or sensibly. The models one below the M cars always hit the sweat spot for me.

But there's no doubt that due to how I enjoy cars and my lifestyle the heinous and plain callous accusation of 'your ownership seems to major on mobile Gentleman’s Clubs' has some merit. biggrin

ravon

609 posts

312 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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I purchased my A110 as a fill in car when my Porsche Specialist had written off my much modified Cayman GT4 on road test. The car I purchased was on a ‘19 plate and had covered just under two thousand miles and was roughly ten thousand Pounds off list price . As it was primarily for track day use, a new one would have been very extravagant. First track day, at Thruxton I was hugely disappointed, indeed I immediately contacted the supplying Alpine Dealer to see if they would buy it back off me , no deal ! I remembered someone was modifying A110’s and contacted the man , David Pook from Life 110, he talked a great deal of sense , and to cut a long story short my car now has pretty much every track related modification that he makes, so anti roll bars, springs R53 Dampers, larger front brake rotors, splitter and rear wing and its truly fabulous track day car, which is a real delight to drive and own . I’ve done around thirty days on track with it over the last couple of years and though not as straight line fast as a GT4, it gives such delight in its totally unfussed, light weight track car handling, I don’t miss the Porsche at all . I’ve driven a “ Lotus Motorsport” modified track day Evora at I think Estoril and have to say it felt leaden compared to my Cayman GT4, my Lotus loving pal that owned the Evora , looked genuinely downbeat when he got out of my Cayman , he couldn’t believe how good it was , and now I’d take the Alpine over the Cayman . The light weight of the Alpine also means it’s incredibly inexpensive to run compared to a heavy car, Cayman, Evora, Emira , I managed a whole season on one and a half sets of Cup 2’s and one set of brake pads, this is huge cash saving . You Gents who dismiss the Alpine because of its retro looks should really drive one !

nismo48

7,062 posts

237 months

Saturday 24th February 2024
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LotusOmega375D said:
Still got my manual GTE, bought new direct from the factory in 2015, also on 6000 miles.



The featured white one has been for sale at Hoffmanns for several years.
Stunning car that