Car insurance Employer Indemnity Letter
Car insurance Employer Indemnity Letter
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ATC110

Original Poster:

47 posts

82 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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I have taken out a car insurance policy with business use included with LV.

It was taken out on the basis they would issue an Employer Indemnity letter indemnifying my employer from any claims arising when using the vehicle for work.

Several LV staff did not understand what this is but when explained and referred to a manger they said it would be issued.

This is a standard requirement from every employer yet LV are now refusing to provide such a letter.

Has anyone experienced this and what did they do? It's bizarre considering LV being a mainstream insurer.

shtu

4,522 posts

175 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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ATC110 said:
This is a standard requirement from every employer.
Can't say I've ever been asked for one myself, but the easy solution - cancel the policy in the cooling-off period and go with an insurer that will do what you need.

ATC110

Original Poster:

47 posts

82 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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shtu said:
Can't say I've ever been asked for one myself, but the easy solution - cancel the policy in the cooling-off period and go with an insurer that will do what you need.
Can you suggest one? LV were expensive but significantly less than any other quotes

mcflurry

9,189 posts

282 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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Wouldn't a copy of your insurance policy showing Business cover meet their requirements?

ATC110

Original Poster:

47 posts

82 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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mcflurry said:
Wouldn't a copy of your insurance policy showing Business cover meet their requirements?
Apparently not. LV sent a letter confirming business use instead of an Indemnity letter, which they were supposed to send.

I've sent it to my employer but they are quite specific about an indemnity letter.

shtu

4,522 posts

175 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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ATC110 said:
Can you suggest one?
No.

As I say, I've never been asked to produce one so it's not a problem I've ever had.

ATC110

Original Poster:

47 posts

82 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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shtu said:
No.

As I say, I've never been asked to produce one so it's not a problem I've ever had.
Did your employer just ask for proof of business use cover?

loskie

7,103 posts

149 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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HM Gov, my employer need sight of policy stating covered for business use but nothing else.

This seems very odd on the part of your employer

Alex Z

2,070 posts

105 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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I had business cover on my car insurance for the last 20 years, and found that it didn't make any difference to the cost of the policy.
I was never asked for anything other than a copy of the insurance certificate by my employers, and hadn't heard of anyone needing something different till now.

dreamcracker

3,333 posts

246 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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ATC110 said:
I have taken out a car insurance policy with business use included with LV.

It was taken out on the basis they would issue an Employer Indemnity letter indemnifying my employer from any claims arising when using the vehicle for work..........

This is a standard requirement from every employer yet LV are now refusing to provide such a letter.

Has anyone experienced this and what did they do? It's bizarre considering LV being a mainstream insurer.
No.

As everyone else here, I just need to provide a copy of my insurance policy with business use specified on it.

charltjr

474 posts

38 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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Your employer is weird, I’ve never heard of anything like that before.

I’m not surprised the insurer doesn’t want to issue an indemnity letter if it’s not something they already have a process for, it would need to be carefully drafted to make sure it didn’t open them up to extra costs.

Maybe ask your employer which insurers they have had an indemnity letter from and speak to those insurers.

Mad Maximus

989 posts

32 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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ATC110 said:
I have taken out a car insurance policy with business use included with LV.

It was taken out on the basis they would issue an Employer Indemnity letter indemnifying my employer from any claims arising when using the vehicle for work.

Several LV staff did not understand what this is but when explained and referred to a manger they said it would be issued.

This is a standard requirement from every employer yet LV are now refusing to provide such a letter.

Has anyone experienced this and what did they do? It's bizarre considering LV being a mainstream insurer.
Is this a private or public employer? I’ve never had any employer ask for such a letter I have only ever been asked for proof of business use.

Sebring440

3,210 posts

125 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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ATC110 said:
This is a standard requirement from every employer.
It's not, really, it's not.

ATC110 said:
referred to a manger
Did you mean "referred to a minger"? This may be your problem.


TwigtheWonderkid

49,081 posts

179 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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ATC110 said:
It was taken out on the basis they would issue an Employer Indemnity letter indemnifying my employer from any claims arising when using the vehicle for work.
They can't issue a letter saying they will offer indemnify from "any claim" because they don't know the circumstances of the possible claim. It might not be covered. Example, your employer gives you some paperwork that gets stolen along with your car whilst you were using it for business. The loss of this paperwork results in a large financial loss for your firm. That loss your firm has suffered ain't gonna be covered, but if they've issued the letter with the wording you suggest, they'd have to pay it.

FMOB

1,994 posts

41 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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I have used my personal car for business related travel at several companies without receiving such a request.

What I have discussed or rather told my employer (in writing) is my car insurer has no insurable interest in any company equipment or materials that I might be carrying during travel on their behalf. They didn't have any issue with this.

Basically if their equipment gets damaged in say an accident they aren't looking to my insurer for the loss, some of the kit was expensive a loaner item we had was north of 7 figures to replace.

Just to add, if your work aren't happy then just get them to hire a vehicle for you when needed and don't use your car for business. They can have the insurance pissing contest to deal with as they are being odd about it.

Edited by FMOB on Saturday 23 March 15:56

MOMACC

628 posts

66 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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Your employer will not get what they are looking for from any motor insurer.

Your employer will have a liability policy which will likely include contingent motor insurance and will read like this -

Motor Contingent Liability
The Insurer will indemnify the Insured in the terms of this Section against liability arising out
of the use in connection with the Business of any vehicle not owned, provided or being driven
by the Insured but this Section does not cover liability
a in respect of loss of or damage to such vehicle
b arising out of any such use in any country outside the European Union
c incurred by any party other than the Insured
d incurred by any party identified in Extension A. (Indemnity to Other Parties) other than an Employee.

They are looking for another insurer to hold harmlesss where the actual route of claim is via subrogation.

I'd show them that you are covered for business use and that's the best you can give them. If they want it another way they buy you a car and insure it.

Scrump

23,936 posts

187 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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dreamcracker said:
No.

As everyone else here, I just need to provide a copy of my insurance policy with business use specified on it.
Same here. Never been asked for Employer Indemnity letter.

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

211 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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Sounds like you need a new employer, not insurer. HTH.

Olivergt

2,258 posts

110 months

Saturday 23rd March 2024
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I've just added business use to my policy and they asked for my companies name so they could issue an indemnity letter!

There was no additional cost to the policy.

Note: I'm based in Ireland which may make difference.