RE: Finally - the Jaguar XE SV we always wanted
RE: Finally - the Jaguar XE SV we always wanted
Tuesday 2nd April 2024

Finally - the Jaguar XE SV we always wanted

Well, almost. But the only Project 8 Touring painted black comes closer than any


If ever there was a car that embodied JLR’s occasionally scatterbrained, all-or-nothing approach to product development in the ‘10s, it was the Jaguar XE SV Project 8. (Of the cars that made it to production, at any rate: obviously the Nobel Prize for Pie-in-the-Blue-Sky thinking goes to the C-X75, a concept so overtly out there that its maker could hardly bear to look at it before burying it six feet deep.) At the time though, what Jaguar really needed was a powerfully lovely and confidently priced halo model that would serve as a showroom beacon for the XE. Something a bit special, but also vaguely attainable. Something everyone could get behind. 

So what did it do? It let SVO build an absurdly fast, money-no-object super saloon that was exceptionally good at one thing (going around a circuit) and then ensured that only 300 people globally would be able to buy one. Oh and despite designing and engineering the thing in Britain, and making it in Britain and Britain being the most important market, it opted to make it left-hand drive only. And charge a fiver shy of £150,000 to buy one. 

Incredibly, the market did not pounce on the thing like it was the second coming of sliced bread. Partly because Jaguar had done none of the work to get there (the Project 8 was the sort the thing you build after your V8-powered, range-topping volume saloon is declared a generational talent; it isn’t a jumping-off point) and partly because it was too nakedly extreme for a lot of people - and looked it. Accordingly, Jaguar went back to the drawing board and decreed that it would build a toned-down Touring version of the Project 8 in the hope of shoehorning some more names onto the waiting list. 

Handily, one of those names belonged to Hanno Kirner, a vastly experienced industry exec who was then leading Tata’s fledgling efforts ‘in the battery space’ (he’s since been appointed the CEO of Dyson). While Mr Kirner’s day job might have been focused on the most efficient way of moving ions about the place, he evidently knew a thing or two about how to spec a performance car because the black Touring he came up with (the only one produced, according to our seller) is the closest thing we’ve seen to what the XE SV should’ve been from the start: still a little menacing, sure - but in a good way, and handsome and usable with it. 

To call it Q car-ish is probably pushing it a bit: if you’ve never seen a Project 8 in real life (perfectly possible) those arches, nestled on a body that shares precious little with a standard XE, are unavoidable. As are the dramatic track widths. And that front end, which manages to be about 80 per cent grille. But without the fixed wing or a look-at-me shade of paint, it’s not hard to imagine this SV drawing precious few looks in a supermarket car park. Until the supercharged V8 coughs into life, of course. 

That doesn’t erase the price to be paid (not advertised here but here’s another by way of comparison) or the fact that the Project 8 was the wrong car for the moment at launch, but with Jaguar’s all-electric future now firmly on the horizon, it’s easier to forgive a swing-for-the-fences 600hp saloon. Especially as the SV was remarkably good to drive on the road. Moreover, because a chastened JLR never plucked up the courage to replace it with anything, its place in history is assured, too. And thanks to Mr Kirner’s restraint, and the vanishing rarity of the Touring generally, you’re probably looking at one of the last legitimately great Jaguar saloons. A time and a place for everything, eh? 


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_ppan

Original Poster:

649 posts

98 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Black manages to make it look boring biggrin

Gordon Hill

2,412 posts

44 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Nope

ChrisCh86

1,127 posts

73 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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To be honest, this is better in any other colour and with the wing.

Harry Metcalfe's spec is about perfect. Now that's a lovely car!

Pumpsmynads

299 posts

185 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Was the cooking version that bad? Hardly saw any. If I remember, they had 100g co2, near 70 mpg, and £20k. Should’ve sold fleets of hire cars worth at the very least.

ultrastapler

238 posts

184 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Black is definitely the worst colour for one of these


Would love one in the original orange or green . No wing and no graphics though.

Cassius81

285 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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I’m pretty sure there is a BRG one of these with clear glass and silver wheels kicking around on Instagram owned by a famous collector….

Now that is a lovely thing. This doesn’t look as good as black is just a bit boring (to my eyes).

Evercross

6,883 posts

93 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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How to make something so good look positively meh.

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

137 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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If you're going to do black with black wheels, at least do the full "murdered out" thing. Clear glass with it just looks a mess.

Really, though, wing or no wing and whatever colour you paint it, this is never going to be a sleeper. You'd want an XFR for that. I'd say embrace what it obviously is and go for French Racing Blue or similar.

NGK210

4,991 posts

174 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Looks like a refugee from the cancelled UK version of MiB.
In short: great car, crap colour combo.
Oh, and re. ‘POA’ – f*ck off!

Corkys

301 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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ChrisCh86 said:
To be honest, this is better in any other colour and with the wing.

Harry Metcalfe's spec is about perfect. Now that's a lovely car!
Harry’s is the perfect spec. Agreed.

But if you going to get a silly car, you might as well go full ASBO. Wing for me. Without it is like a body builder with skinny legs.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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NGK210 said:
Looks like a refugee from the cancelled UK version of MiB.
In short: great car, crap colour combo.
Oh, and re. ‘POA’ – f*ck off!
Agree on both counts.

Even if I had £100k burning a Project 8 sized hole in my pocket I wouldn't pick up the phone.

GreatScott2016

2,513 posts

117 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Corkys said:
Harry’s is the perfect spec. Agreed.

But if you going to get a silly car, you might as well go full ASBO. Wing for me. Without it is like a body builder with skinny legs.
biggrin . Agreed, all or nothing with this type off thing.

fantheman80

2,611 posts

78 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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GreatScott2016 said:
Corkys said:
Harry’s is the perfect spec. Agreed.

But if you going to get a silly car, you might as well go full ASBO. Wing for me. Without it is like a body builder with skinny legs.
biggrin . Agreed, all or nothing with this type off thing.
And me. Seen a few at the scrambles defo love the full fat, dare I say a modern lotus Carlton.

Any technical reason it was lhd only or did they just see more sales off our small but perfectly formed island?


CDR

85 posts

238 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Jaguar couldn’t fit the V8 engine in to a right hand drive shell.

Mikebentley

8,617 posts

169 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Wasn’t there a Readers car on here where he had one. I seem to remember huge depreciation in his ownership.

Evercross

6,883 posts

93 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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CDR said:
Jaguar couldn’t fit the V8 engine in to a right hand drive shell.
Not sure that's entirely true as the V6 fitted and it is dimensionally identical where it matters (being essentially the same engine with 2 cylinders blanked).

Probably had more to do with Type Approval costs doubling for LHD and RHD versions and figuring there'd be more sales abroad (China, Middle East etc.)

WPA

14,683 posts

143 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Evercross said:
CDR said:
Jaguar couldn’t fit the V8 engine in to a right hand drive shell.
Not sure that's entirely true as the V6 fitted and it is dimensionally identical where it matters (being essentially the same engine with 2 cylinders blanked).

Probably had more to do with Type Approval costs doubling for LHD and RHD versions and figuring there'd be more sales abroad (China, Middle East etc.)
I believe your correct as they only planned 300 worldwide it was not worth tooling up for RHD production.

Black does not work on these.

disco666

679 posts

175 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Does this one have no rear seats, despite having rear doors?
That alone would rule it out for me.
Either put some seats in or get rid of the doors, otherwise it's just a nonsense.

josh00mac

435 posts

137 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Struggle to understand why Jaguar made the Project cars. As a halo for what? It would have made sense if there was a more normal XE-R but they basically made them and then closed up shop. In this month’s evo there is a wild RS6 in retro colours with a daft kit - understandable - it will draw column inches and make people check out the RS6. What was jaguars aim?

Harry seems to do about three videos a year saying how crazy the project 7 is and how they should be worth so much more etc etc etc. unfortunately I don’t think jag ever had the fan base to make these things appreciate in the way Porsche specials do.

andyalan10

536 posts

166 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2024
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Am I the only one disappointed to find that a Jaguar XE SV Touring isn't the estate version?

Thinking about it, if it wasn't going to have back seats then a long roof 3 door could probably work quite well. Shades of Gilbern Invader estate.