RE: McLaren P1 'XP2R' prototype for sale
RE: McLaren P1 'XP2R' prototype for sale
Sunday 7th April 2024

McLaren P1 'XP2R' prototype for sale

Remember the P1 that set a 'sub-seven-minute' lap around the Nurburgring? It's looking for a new owner


There’s something utterly fascinating about a McLaren test car. Not least because my old university was a stone’s throw from Woking and my student flat was along one of the company’s test routes, so I’d often see (and hear) the firm’s latest models long before their public reveals. But there was always an extra layer of mystique thanks to McLaren penchant for occasionally adorning its prototypes with its very own ‘XP’ codename. A small touch, but enough to give a simple test mule its own character and backstory.

Take the old McLaren F1 prototypes, for instance. Gordon Murray chose a pair of Ultima Mk3s to aid development of the F1, with one car (dubbed Albert) fitted with a 7.4-litre Chevy V8 to test the gearbox and the second (called Edward) serving as the test bed for the BMW S70/2 V12. They made such great test cars, in fact, that Murray bought a few more Ultima kits to develop the running gear for the GMA T.50. That one, called George, was spotted at the Goodwood Members’ Meeting last year, but the two McLaren mules were sadly destroyed long ago. Had they remained intact they’d have no doubt had collectors clambering all over them.

You can, however, get your hands on this P1 prototype, provided your pockets are deeper than the Mariana Trench. Any P1 test car is going to carry some significance, not only because each example helps chart the progress of one of the pillars of the hypercar Holy Trinity, but also thanks to their internal role in the firm. McLaren was entering uncharted waters with the P1, with hybrid technology still in its infancy in high-performance terms. Of course, Porsche and Ferrari were busy working away on their own petrol-electric hypercars, but they were big established carmakers. In comparison, it seemed like it had only been a blink of an eye since McLaren launched the MP4-12C. 

So there was a lot riding on these P1 test cars. Some of the 13 experimental ‘XP’ prototypes would be used for environmental testing, others to check certain components were performing as intended. The codenamed car we have here had the coolest job of the lot. It was one of the early development cars and was mainly responsible for performance tests including vMax runs, developing the Race Mode, stress testing the Pirelli tyres and ensuring the active aerodynamics didn’t bug out while fully committed through the Foxhole at the Nurburgring. It’s also the car that set the unofficial 'sub-seven minute’ lap around the Nordschleife. Remember the spy shots of a P1 decked in camo lapping various racing circuits of the world? Chances are it was this very car.

Of course, it looks a little different now. After the P1’s public debut in 2013, XP2R was repainted in Supernova Silver (the look it carried for its ‘Ring run) and briefly resumed its testing duties before entering retirement. It was then acquired by a private collector, where it remained until resurfacing towards the end of last year. Although it looks like any other P1, the prototype does have some unique features such as XP2R-branded wheels, its codename on the P1 plaque inside the cabin and a de-badged bonnet. The Nurburgring logo on the doors is a nice touch, too.

A P1 is a very special thing anyway, but clearly this one is on a different historical footing to most. As is the price. It’s all yours for £2,500,000, which even by P1 standards is pretty steep. For instance, Jenson Button’s old P1 was up for ‘just’ £1.5m six months ago. But even though that had some unique features on it, the XP2R feels like it might be that bit more special. Better act fast before McLaren buys it back and locks it up in its Woking lair for all eternity. 


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CountyAFC

Original Poster:

6,049 posts

32 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Best looking of the trinity. Bonnet fit looks very "prototype". An extra million quid for one that's been thrashed it's whole life, been taken apart and put back together loads of times and had a colour change? I don't see the appeal over a normal one.

Edited by CountyAFC on Sunday 7th April 06:59

Slowlygettingit

943 posts

70 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Love the P1.
Only McLaren on my lottery win shortlist…

Sporky

12,170 posts

93 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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CountyAFC said:
Best looking of the trinity. Bonnet fit looks very "prototype". An extra million quid for one that's been thrashed it's whole life, been taken apart and put back together loads of times and had a colour change? I don't see the appeal over a normal one.
Think of it as a collectable rather than a car and I can understand the suggested price.

Sway

35,105 posts

223 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Advert very weird - loads of pics of two different cars together, with same paint and reg plate?

Wtf is that all about?

NDNDNDND

2,546 posts

212 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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I've never got my head around the P1's inexplicably ugly, duck-billed front end styling.

Why did they do that?

Back and side profile are great, though.

NitroNick

758 posts

239 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Sway said:
Advert very weird - loads of pics of two different cars together, with same paint and reg plate?

Wtf is that all about?
You get them both

From the advert
“XP2R is now held with an extensive set of spares, including a second set of carbon fibre bodywork. With these spare parts and bodywork, a complete silhouette vehicle has been created, which sits alongside the car. This second model is all-but identical to the original prototype, although showing the different coloured brake caliper which were worn during the development programme.”

GreatScott2016

2,513 posts

117 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Sway said:
Advert very weird - loads of pics of two different cars together, with same paint and reg plate?

Wtf is that all about?
My initial thought too smile

marketappeal

19 posts

133 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Think of it as a £1.5M supercar with serious provenance and £1M worth of spare parts that are presumably in short supply.

3GGy

875 posts

211 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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CountyAFC said:
Best looking of the trinity. Bonnet fit looks very "prototype". An extra million quid for one that's been thrashed it's whole life, been taken apart and put back together loads of times and had a colour change? I don't see the appeal over a normal one.

Edited by CountyAFC on Sunday 7th April 06:59
You could have just described a well campaigned racing car.

Maybe in the eyes of some, this isn't much different.





Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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NitroNick said:
You get them both

From the advert
“XP2R is now held with an extensive set of spares, including a second set of carbon fibre bodywork. With these spare parts and bodywork, a complete silhouette vehicle has been created, which sits alongside the car. This second model is all-but identical to the original prototype, although showing the different coloured brake caliper which were worn during the development programme.”
Doesn't seem so expensive when you get 1.95 of them

Sway

35,105 posts

223 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Krikkit said:
NitroNick said:
You get them both

From the advert
“XP2R is now held with an extensive set of spares, including a second set of carbon fibre bodywork. With these spare parts and bodywork, a complete silhouette vehicle has been created, which sits alongside the car. This second model is all-but identical to the original prototype, although showing the different coloured brake caliper which were worn during the development programme.”
Doesn't seem so expensive when you get 1.95 of them
Ish. I'm assuming there's no tub (fair enough) - but what about the stuff that matters most like spare battery (and how can you look after it?).

Tbh, no one is going to buy this and do miles in it, so spares are somewhat irrelevant other than to have a display in two homes...

nismo48

7,046 posts

236 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Krikkit said:
NitroNick said:
You get them both

From the advert
“XP2R is now held with an extensive set of spares, including a second set of carbon fibre bodywork. With these spare parts and bodywork, a complete silhouette vehicle has been created, which sits alongside the car. This second model is all-but identical to the original prototype, although showing the different coloured brake caliper which were worn during the development programme.”
Doesn't seem so expensive when you get 1.95 of them
Fair comment wink

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,743 posts

127 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Always feel there's an element of "Emperor's new clothes" when people try to big up the price of something just because it's supposedly rare. If I wanted a P1 I'd want one I could happily drive on the road, not a prototype which had been pushed to its limits.

John87

1,120 posts

187 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Sway said:
Ish. I'm assuming there's no tub (fair enough) - but what about the stuff that matters most like spare battery (and how can you look after it?).

Tbh, no one is going to buy this and do miles in it, so spares are somewhat irrelevant other than to have a display in two homes...
If there was no tub how would the panels attach together? It looks like an entire second car so I wonder if it runs and given both have the same plates, you could essentially have half the mileage on the "genuine" car and the rest on the ringer

Sway

35,105 posts

223 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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John87 said:
Sway said:
Ish. I'm assuming there's no tub (fair enough) - but what about the stuff that matters most like spare battery (and how can you look after it?).

Tbh, no one is going to buy this and do miles in it, so spares are somewhat irrelevant other than to have a display in two homes...
If there was no tub how would the panels attach together? It looks like an entire second car so I wonder if it runs and given both have the same plates, you could essentially have half the mileage on the "genuine" car and the rest on the ringer
If listed as a 'silhouette car', I'd assume a tubular steel frame was made up with the appropriate mounting points...

Caddyshack

14,839 posts

235 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Sway said:
Krikkit said:
NitroNick said:
You get them both

From the advert
“XP2R is now held with an extensive set of spares, including a second set of carbon fibre bodywork. With these spare parts and bodywork, a complete silhouette vehicle has been created, which sits alongside the car. This second model is all-but identical to the original prototype, although showing the different coloured brake caliper which were worn during the development programme.”
Doesn't seem so expensive when you get 1.95 of them
Ish. I'm assuming there's no tub (fair enough) - but what about the stuff that matters most like spare battery (and how can you look after it?).

Tbh, no one is going to buy this and do miles in it, so spares are somewhat irrelevant other than to have a display in two homes...
I don’t think you can say that nobody will do miles in it. I think quite a few buyers might use their car a fair bit. I have zero desire to display any vehicle and I don’t think that would change with my ability to purchase more expensive cars.

paul13

785 posts

231 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Always feel there's an element of "Emperor's new clothes" when people try to big up the price of something just because it's supposedly rare. If I wanted a P1 I'd want one I could happily drive on the road, not a prototype which had been pushed to its limits.
^^^ This

However, the P1 wouldn't be on my lotto dream garage.

thegreenhell

23,943 posts

248 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Sway said:
John87 said:
Sway said:
Ish. I'm assuming there's no tub (fair enough) - but what about the stuff that matters most like spare battery (and how can you look after it?).

Tbh, no one is going to buy this and do miles in it, so spares are somewhat irrelevant other than to have a display in two homes...
If there was no tub how would the panels attach together? It looks like an entire second car so I wonder if it runs and given both have the same plates, you could essentially have half the mileage on the "genuine" car and the rest on the ringer
If listed as a 'silhouette car', I'd assume a tubular steel frame was made up with the appropriate mounting points...
There's clearly no tub when you can see the engine from this angle from inside the 'car'



And the steel frame



Having said that, it wouldn't be too big of a job to knock up a proper steel spaceframe to mount all the P1 bits on, making the ultimate kit car.

redroadster

1,886 posts

261 months

Monday 8th April 2024
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Never actually seen an official time where did the author get the lap time from was it verified ? .

thegreenhell

23,943 posts

248 months

Monday 8th April 2024
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redroadster said:
Never actually seen an official time where did the author get the lap time from was it verified ? .
It doesn't exist, and never did. They would have released it officially with a video if it did. The most probable guess is that it was a best theoretical lap time composited from individual sectors, but the car couldn't actually do them all in the same lap, hence the lack of evidence. It's likely they ran out of battery half way around the lap, just like the 918 did on it's official lap attempt.