RE: New Audi S3 unveiled with 333hp
RE: New Audi S3 unveiled with 333hp
Tuesday 9th April 2024

New Audi S3 unveiled with 333hp

Modest design tweaks mask significant chassis upgrades - including the RS3's torque-splitting rear diff


It was only a couple of months ago when Audi showed off near-production-ready versions of the facelifted S3 Sportback and Sedan, thinly veiled in grey and orange camouflage. So thin, in fact, that anyone familiar with the basics of Photoshop could probably figure out what the final versions would look like by simply colouring the car in. But if that sounds like too much of a faff, then you're in luck: Audi has finally removed the wrapping and, crucially, added some flesh to the S3's production-ready bones.

Park the new model next to its predecessor and you’d probably struggle to spot the difference. Audi says it’s targeted a ‘progressive’ look for the refreshed S3, with changes to both the hatch and saloon including a new single-frame grille with L-shaped flicks integrated into the vents and a less-fussy solution for the brake duct design. The shape of the diffuser has also been tweaked with two defined channels in the centre, and there’s the obligatory change to the front LEDs, which now feature four customisable light signatures. It’s a little beefier in some areas and more restrained in others, although arguably the real letdown is the loss of the Sport Quattro-style trio of vents that formally ran below the leading edge of the bonnet.

Thankfully, it gets a lot more exciting when you lift up the bonnet and learn what's underneath. Audi has already confirmed that the S3’s 2.0-litre TFSI engine has been dialled up to 333hp and 310lb ft of torque (a 23hp and 15lb ft lift over its predecessor), bringing it in line with the VW Golf R 20 Years edition and oh-so-nearly the original 8P RS3’s output. It’s a tenth quicker to 62mph than the old car at 4.7 seconds, while engine response has been sharpened up with upgrades to the turbocharger, which can maintain a constant rpm under low-to-medium acceleration, and the throttle valve that now remains open on the overrun. Crucially, though, the old model’s slightly dopey seven-speed DSG has been reworked, with shift times halved under full load and a ‘higher starting torque’ (which seems to be a 200rpm idle increase in dynamic mode) for even more rapid off-the-line performance. 

Moreover, the S3 now gains the electronic rear torque splitter differential from the RS3 and Golf R Performance Pack. Coupled with it is a new dynamic plus mode that can ‘send as much drive torque’ to the outside rear wheel which, as Audi puts it: ‘results in a tendency to oversteer.’ Marvellous. Aside from the trick electronics, the company says it’s worked on improving mechanical grip with stiffer bearings for the wishbone suspension and an increase in negative camber. All cars come with S sport suspension, lowering the ride height by 15mm, while adaptive dampers are available on range-topping Vorsprung cars. And then there are the brakes, which have increased by 4mm up front with gargantuan 357mm steel discs.

Inside, the cabin is mostly the same as before, only this time you’ll be able to see more of it. There’s an extended ambient lighting package that now illuminates the centre console and cup holders, the latter being a real game-changer for the accident-prone. Finding the armrest on the inside of the door has been made easier thanks to new cloth trim with 300 laser cuts for the ambient lighting to poke through, and there’s a new drive selector that, you’ve guessed it, is also illuminated.

Finally, there’s a selection of new colours to choose from including Ascari Blue, District Green and Progressive Red, while Daytona Grey can be specced with a matte finish for the first time. Pricing for the S3 Fastback and Saloon hasn’t been announced just yet, nor do we know how much it’ll cost to spec the adaptive dampers and optional titanium Akrapovic sports exhaust. All will be revealed when the order books open next month, although we'd suggest bracing yourself to pay a bit more than the current S3’s £44,720 asking price when the time comes. 


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Ray_Aber

Original Poster:

936 posts

305 months

Monday 8th April 2024
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The front is all mouth but the profile of hatch and saloon is not bad.

The interior, however, is a real letdown. Some very hard and cheap feeling plastic around the air vents. I drove a basic A3 30 for a week and apart from the amazing economy for a petrol engine (66mpg!), it left me cold.

Oh, and it’s black inside. But don’t worry. It has an altimeter. Seriously. I love that gadget!

wistec1

796 posts

70 months

Monday 8th April 2024
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Behold.... It's not a bloody EV. Or restomod Porsche.

ajprice

33,374 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Why keep going with the massive grille when the middle section just looks like a black plastic bumper bar with some trim on it?


CG2020UK

2,964 posts

69 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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One of my best mates has the current S3 and in all honesty it’s a great car. Probably a strong contender for only car you need.

Hopefully there are noticeable improvements in handling because when is that ever not a good thing.

Would have liked the interior to get a bit more love as it is a bit cheap for what you’d expect in an Audi but isn’t a major offence.

Good looking car still in either shape.

D4rez

1,668 posts

85 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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wistec1 said:
Behold.... It's not a bloody EV. Or restomod Porsche.
Meh, it’s peak white goods to me

Pughmacher

440 posts

72 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Article says wishbone suspension. Do they have proper double wishbone suspension up front? Or is it referring to rear multi link axle?

Is this different to the Golf R? Genuinely interested in potential differences between the Audi and the VW (if any) in the chassis department.

Terminator X

20,620 posts

233 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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D4rez said:
wistec1 said:
Behold.... It's not a bloody EV. Or restomod Porsche.
Meh, it’s peak white goods to me
Why do you come on an ICE thread with your negative comments wink

TX.

Chestrockwell

2,947 posts

186 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Pughmacher said:
Article says wishbone suspension. Do they have proper double wishbone suspension up front? Or is it referring to rear multi link axle?

Is this different to the Golf R? Genuinely interested in potential differences between the Audi and the VW (if any) in the chassis department.
My brother has a MK8 Golf R that i have driven extensively and my friend just bought the S3, 70 plate, prefacelift to this one.

They are actually very similar in the way they drive however the Audi has nicer seats and is a bit louder, the Golf feels subdued compared to the Audi.


GreatScott2016

2,513 posts

117 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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I like the S3, and the mechanical tweaks will only improve it further. I'd expect a well specced car to be nudging £50k though, and that's only 10% away from a decent used RS3. I was hoping that the interior quality had improved, so I will reserve judgement until I've seen one in the metal. On paper though, this one ticks a lot of boxes for me smile

AmyRichardson

1,979 posts

71 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Pughmacher said:
Article says wishbone suspension. Do they have proper double wishbone suspension up front? Or is it referring to rear multi link axle?

Is this different to the Golf R? Genuinely interested in potential differences between the Audi and the VW (if any) in the chassis department.
Aside from it being more of a "Jetta R" (or Bora, or Venta, or whatever VW fancied in some other year.)

Odd how in years passed 3-boxed hatchbacks were deemed to be something desperately tragic - strictly for aging types with very conservative views on the cat body hierarchy. Somehow that time has passed (they're all driving crossovers) and we've lost that perception...

FlukePlay

1,193 posts

174 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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I think that looks pretty good, decent power for a hot hatch and quite a pleasant interior although it's black. We should applaud the dash layout to be fair...it has a proper instrument binnacle and an integrated screen...not some oversized iPad plonked in the middle.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

186 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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I had the misfortune to watch a YT video with Cerrti driver who raved about the S3 killed it for me but I do like the A3

Justin-ow582

608 posts

134 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Ray_Aber said:
The interior, however, is a real letdown. Some very hard and cheap feeling plastic around the air vents.
I'll admit, I've never really understood the fixation of checking for hard or "scratchy" plastics on a car dashboard. The only time I touch a dashboard is to dust it.

My knee-jerk response to Clarkson, whenever he inevitably mentioned scratchy plastics on TG, was to tell him to cut his nails.
...I understand that TV is a one-directional medium and he couldn't hear me wink

cerb4.5lee

44,616 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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I personally much prefer the way the older generations of the S3 look in comparison to the newer ones, however I do still like them as a car though. A good all-rounder I reckon.

J4CKO

46,836 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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D4rez said:
wistec1 said:
Behold.... It's not a bloody EV. Or restomod Porsche.
Meh, it’s peak white goods to me
Surely a Dacia or something would be more "white goods", though I dont agree with that term really, as any car is a more interesting thing that something that cleans your underpants or keeps your Chicken Dippers frosty.

Its a quality, 333 bhp, 4wd saloon or hatch, imagine its a lovely thing to own and drive. I think where they perhaps can be a bit ultimately lacking a bit of interaction, they make up for it in being great in other areas.

My thinking is, its a quick and easy to live with daily for those into cars, or an enthusiast car for those that arent perhaps full on car fiends, it being very easy to drive very quickly without a great deal required of the driver.

How they appeal to scratters does put me off a little though, its one of those cars that unless you are buying new, direct from Audi or have a very clear picture of the prior ownership, its quite possibly stolen, clocked, ringed, ragged, badly modified, crash repaired, stolen or has some dodgy backstory, it looking shiny on a sales pitch is no guarantee. My mates Golf GTI got nicked, someone bought it and took it into VW where they found out it wasnt what they thought it was, and as far as we know lost the car as it was owned by the insurance company.


Wab1974uk

1,395 posts

56 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Always preferred the S3 over the RS3. Flies under the radar.

I had a new 2015 S3 Saloon with a manual gearbox, and while not the greatest car in the world for handling, it was an excellent daily all rounder. As a comparison to my old Impreza STI, the S3 was in a different league for refinement, with a much stronger engine. Just lacked the handling.

I'm sure this new car will be faster than ever, and handle better than every. But that interior is awful, and lack of manual option is just a no go for me, personally.

ajprice

33,374 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Justin-ow582 said:
Ray_Aber said:
The interior, however, is a real letdown. Some very hard and cheap feeling plastic around the air vents.
I'll admit, I've never really understood the fixation of checking for hard or "scratchy" plastics on a car dashboard. The only time I touch a dashboard is to dust it.

My knee-jerk response to Clarkson, whenever he inevitably mentioned scratchy plastics on TG, was to tell him to cut his nails.
...I understand that TV is a one-directional medium and he couldn't hear me wink
Same here, Mat Watson on Carwow always mentions something, then the video cuts to his hand reaching to the bottom of the door or whatever and scratching it. Why do you do this? Get out more hehe

cerb4.5lee

44,616 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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ajprice said:
Justin-ow582 said:
Ray_Aber said:
The interior, however, is a real letdown. Some very hard and cheap feeling plastic around the air vents.
I'll admit, I've never really understood the fixation of checking for hard or "scratchy" plastics on a car dashboard. The only time I touch a dashboard is to dust it.

My knee-jerk response to Clarkson, whenever he inevitably mentioned scratchy plastics on TG, was to tell him to cut his nails.
...I understand that TV is a one-directional medium and he couldn't hear me wink
Same here, Mat Watson on Carwow always mentions something, then the video cuts to his hand reaching to the bottom of the door or whatever and scratching it. Why do you do this? Get out more hehe
I loved the Cerberas interior regarding that, because basically everything was covered in leather with the full hide option I had on mine.

In contrast I had a 2023 VW Tiguan as a loan car a few months back, and pretty much everything in that inside was horrible scratchy plastic in comparison, and they aren't exactly cheap cars to buy in fairness either. That car inside did come as a bit of a shock to me for a modern car for sure.


Firebobby

993 posts

68 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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It is what it is, the same old car with a few tweaks here and there. It'll do what it says on the tin and that's it! It's only a dozen years ago the RS3 had 333bhp, what about something different Audi? What about a ground up new, full EV S3, 300 horse, 300 mile range, all for £40k. Now that would worth talking about.

grudas

1,407 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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it's just so uninspiring.. I know that's what audi and vw do but jeez is it boring to look at.