RE: Timewarp Vauxhall Astra GTE for sale
RE: Timewarp Vauxhall Astra GTE for sale
Tuesday 9th April 2024

Timewarp Vauxhall Astra GTE for sale

Remember when the Astra was built in Britain and uniformly driven like it had been stolen?


There’s no bigger buzzword in the car world at the moment than ‘restoration’. Well, second maybe to ‘mobility’, but that’s an awful term that doesn’t really mean anything. People good with spanners have been restoring vehicles since the dawn of time, but the restomod movement has made bringing anything old and vaguely interesting up to modern spec the coolest thing since sliced white. Nothing is seemingly off limits, either: if you’ve got the time (and deep enough pockets) to bring a bucket of bolts back to its former glory, you’ll have people clasping wads of cash lining up to take it off your hands.

Of course, the restomod craze is a positive for car preservation. Take Tolman’s Peugeot 205 GTI, for instance. Wind the clock back a decade or so and the thought of putting in huge amounts of effort and time into restoring a car worth peanuts at the time would have seemed financially disastrous. But the work Tolman has put in (fixing the wonky bits, more power, plusher interior trim etc) to its GTI restoration has plenty of buyers ready to pay the (upwards of) £55,000 asking price to get hold of the closest thing to the perfect 205.

That being said, less attention is given to cars that have been so well preserved that a no-expense-spared restoration would just seem unnecessary. That’s exactly what we have with this Vauxhall Astra GTE 16V. Talk about a timewarp, this wedge-shaped wonder has been kept in dry storage for the best part of ten years, heading into hibernation in 2015 before making a brief return to the road four years later. It went back into dry storage later in 2019, emerging only recently to get it in ship shape for its next owner. 

Even then, it’s not like the car’s been put through a comprehensive detailing session, with the seller claiming it’s only had a ‘basic wash’ to smarten it up for the photos. And judging by said snaps, it’s in impressive condition for its age and originality. The paintwork looks in decent nick, the wheels good as new in all their '80s dinner plate glory and the stickers still firmly glued to the bodywork. True, some of the plastic trim has faded a bit, but that’s nothing a bit of wax won’t bring back to life. Look at the interior, too. No signs of tearing or sagging in the seats, while the futuristic (by '80s standards) digital dash all seems to be in working order. Everything is as it would have been when new 35 years ago.

The same goes for the engine. Most cars of this vintage usually have pretty manky bays - even with regular maintenance - and although there are some signs of peeling around the cam cover, the rest looks spotless. And what an engine it is. The red-top 2.0-litre outputted an impressive 158hp at 6,000rpm, which must have felt properly rapid in the late '80s. All that grunt was paired up with a nicely sorted chassis, too, with bespoke dampers, beefier anti-roll bars and a wider track at the rear, ensuring it went as quick as it looked.

Vauxhall sold thousands of them, but over the years more and more have inevitably been lost to ditches, trees and neglect. From a peak of over 7,600 in the early 1990s, just 88 are on the road today according to HowManyLeft. This isn’t one of them, but the seller claims it flew through its last MOT in 2019 and will come supplied with a fresh one for its new owner, who’ll need to fork up £24,995 to get their hands on it. Not cheap, but so few cars remaining - and even fewer in the condition of this 49,000-mile car - rarity obviously plays its part in that valuation. Rose-tinted sentiment, too. Question is: if you were to become its next custodian, what would do you do with it? Leave it in its time capsule state or use it as the basis of your own resto? The floor is yours. 


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M3_Simon_Fr

Original Poster:

67 posts

113 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Crappy then, crappy now...

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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A mate of mine had one of these in white, and I always enjoyed going out in it. I always thought the digital dash was cool at the time as well.

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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M3_Simon_Fr said:
Crappy then, crappy now...
I've always personally really liked the engine in these to be fair.

C5_Steve

8,864 posts

132 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Very cool car, can't be many of these left now.

Is it just me or are all the pictures hideously over exposed or something? Seems like someone has whacked up the contrast or something (I'm no photographer!). Looks very "harsh".

Trusty Steed

319 posts

223 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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For £25K, they could have given it a hoover out!

magic Monkey Dust

407 posts

65 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Mildew on the seat backs tells me it was'nt that dry in stage. These do hide more horrors than a haunted house fair ride.
The rest of them had drivers with more courage than the tyres had grip.
I plumped for the Calibra when this was in showrooms.

Brasshande

87 posts

79 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Good engine in a terrible car

CT05 Nose Cone

26,064 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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cerb4.5lee said:
M3_Simon_Fr said:
Crappy then, crappy now...
I've always personally really liked the engine in these to be fair.
And that digital instrument panel

Turbobanana

8,366 posts

230 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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It was, and is, a good car.

The problem was, and is, that it wasn't / isn't a Golf. Before long the thread will be full of people claiming it'll kill you in an accident, bits will drop off on an ad-hoc basis and it'll throw you arse-first into the nearest hedge. It was never quite "safe enough" in period.

Some of the above may be true. But these were robust old things: one was entered into the Willhire 24hrs at Snetterton. With several hours still to go its gearbox gave out, doubtless due to the Redtop's boundless torque. It became stuck in its one remaining gear, which happened to be fifth. While tricky to leave the pits and navigate Russell, it soldiered on and finished, earning my eternal respect. I'm not sure a Golf, or many other cars come to that, would have made the finish.

Clive-sz8cz

117 posts

133 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Why do many posters round on these and other cars from back in the day and declare them to be 'crappy' (what an eloquent and incisive assement - not)? The only opinions worth respecting are those of posters who experienced them in period, I bet in 35 years time M3_Simon_Fr's M3 E92 will be regarded as an utter pile of st but he will still have fond memories of it.

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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CT05 Nose Cone said:
cerb4.5lee said:
M3_Simon_Fr said:
Crappy then, crappy now...
I've always personally really liked the engine in these to be fair.
And that digital instrument panel
yes

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J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Clive-sz8cz said:
Why do many posters round on these and other cars from back in the day and declare them to be 'crappy' (what an eloquent and incisive assement - not)? The only opinions worth respecting are those of posters who experienced them in period, I bet in 35 years time M3_Simon_Fr's M3 E92 will be regarded as an utter pile of st but he will still have fond memories of it.
Indeed, it is bizarre, I never drove one of these but drove a few of the 8 valve versions and always liked them, they did tend to torque steer more than say the Golf GTIs we had at the time but the 2.0 was noticeably quicker than a Golf GTI. Always thought they looked good as well.

Its pointless judging them now, they are knocking on 40 years old but in period it was fairly high in the Hot Hatch pecking order, and there was a lot of choice back then.

The 16 valve was super desirable as nothing else in the marketplace had anywhere near 160 ish bhp back then, it was a the hyper hatch of its day.

mooseracer

2,783 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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cerb4.5lee said:
M3_Simon_Fr said:
Crappy then, crappy now...
I've always personally really liked the engine in these to be fair.
I had one on ITBs in my Wesfield cool

Its Just Adz

18,861 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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cerb4.5lee said:
I've always personally really liked the engine in these to be fair.
The engine was bloody brilliant.
I had same lump in a MK3 GSI and it was great.

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Clive-sz8cz said:
Why do many posters round on these and other cars from back in the day and declare them to be 'crappy' (what an eloquent and incisive assement - not)? The only opinions worth respecting are those of posters who experienced them in period, I bet in 35 years time M3_Simon_Fr's M3 E92 will be regarded as an utter pile of st but he will still have fond memories of it.
Agreed. I have fond memories of them because I've been out in them years back. Plus I had a right laugh with one once when I was in the 200SX years back too. He actually left me for dead in it, because the arse end swung out in the 200 going around a left hand bend...and I was left fighting that while he sailed off into the distance! Great times. driving

My BIL had a couple of 1992 redtop Astra GSi's as well. He actually got banned in one of them when I was sat next to him as a passenger. He was racing his mate in his Astra GTE 16v, and we got radared at 84mph in a 30mph! Not very big or clever granted, but we were a hell of a lot younger then in fairness. However it was still completely daft to behave like that in a built up area regardless though I think.

DodgyGeezer

48,995 posts

219 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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TBH I always thought its predecessor looked far better...


98elise

32,573 posts

190 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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cerb4.5lee said:
M3_Simon_Fr said:
Crappy then, crappy now...
I've always personally really liked the engine in these to be fair.
Same here. I had an Escort XR3 and an Astra GTE. The GTE had a far better engine.

Om

2,187 posts

107 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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These were always rated highly in period - often winning group tests against such cars as the Golf 16v.

I have driven several 8v versions (as well as this engine in the larger Cavalier) and they were always perfectly reliable, reasonably well put together cars that didn't cost a fortune to run and were affordable for many.

The 16v had much improved handling over the 8v version and the performance figures were at the top of the tree for the time.

So not crap then. Now, as long as it is good condition I am sure it will still be fun to drive if feel a little dated.

911Spanker

3,642 posts

45 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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Not sure someone with an NC MX5 and E90 M3 is really qualified to talk about "crappiness"... smile

Trevor555

5,419 posts

113 months

Tuesday 9th April 2024
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M3_Simon_Fr said:
Crappy then, crappy now...
What did you own back then that was loads better then?

These 16v GTE's were a bloody quick car back in their day.

I had an MR2 at the time, closely followed by two AE86's, and these GTE's left those for dead.