Friend sold a car, gave them the whole V5C
Friend sold a car, gave them the whole V5C
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595Heaven

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3,366 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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Friend who is not a car person at all has just sold his old car for cash and gave the new owner (who he met through a friend and has no contact details for) all of the docs including the complete V5C which he'd not filled out.

Of course, this means he now cannot inform DVLA that he's sold it.

To compound his woes, it looks like he was underpaid...

First time he's sold a car - his wife does all the life admin and was out when he sold it. Wish he'd asked how to manage the paperwok but too late now.

Of course, the new owner might do the decent thing and send off the new keeper slip, but then again he might not, and this could be a lot of trouble - parking fines and speeding tickets comes to mind.

Is there anything he can do now to register the sale?

The Rotrex Kid

34,846 posts

189 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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Order a replacement V5 online

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-log-book

Get the new owners details from his friend and fill in the new V5 and send back to DVLA.

Cost him £25 but it's the safest way IMO

Super Sonic

14,312 posts

83 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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Write to dvla telling them you know longer own the vehicle. The tax will be cancelled. The new owner will have to tax the vehicle.

595Heaven

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3,366 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Order a replacement V5 online

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-log-book

Get the new owners details from his friend and fill in the new V5 and send back to DVLA.

Cost him £25 but it's the safest way IMO
I looked at that, but it states 'You cannot use this service if you do not have the vehicle in your possession'

and 'You will need the vehicle identification number (VIN) of your vehicle'

He has neither...

The buyer is apparently exporting the car to Ireland, so hopefully he has to inform DVLA he is the registered owner to export it

595Heaven

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3,366 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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Super Sonic said:
Write to dvla telling them you know longer own the vehicle. The tax will be cancelled. The new owner will have to tax the vehicle.
Seems a sensible backup - hopefully they will accept that as proof!

MitchT

17,119 posts

238 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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595Heaven said:
and 'You will need the vehicle identification number (VIN) of your vehicle'
What's the reg? There are ways of getting the VIN from the reg.

White-Noise

5,500 posts

277 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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OK dumb question but the friend doesn't have any contact details for the buyer?

I'd call the non emergency police number to at least try and record this has happened so its on record. Same sort of approach with the dvla, he at least needs to try and tell them so there is an audit trail.

Thing is to speak to the dvla this must happen all the time, there will be a way to deal with it and this is the primary course of action. Rac or similar may be able to advise too.

Bit odd that the buyer didn't flag this up too. I hope he checked the notes aren't fakes! How much money are we talking roughly out of interest?

ARHarh

4,892 posts

136 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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daft question. ut why not ask his friend who introduced them to introduce them again. He could then fill out the paperwork correctly.

richhead

3,390 posts

40 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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595Heaven said:
Friend who is not a car person at all has just sold his old car for cash and gave the new owner (who he met through a friend and has no contact details for) all of the docs including the complete V5C which he'd not filled out.

Of course, this means he now cannot inform DVLA that he's sold it.

To compound his woes, it looks like he was underpaid...

First time he's sold a car - his wife does all the life admin and was out when he sold it. Wish he'd asked how to manage the paperwok but too late now.

Of course, the new owner might do the decent thing and send off the new keeper slip, but then again he might not, and this could be a lot of trouble - parking fines and speeding tickets comes to mind.

Is there anything he can do now to register the sale?
mmm underpaid, exported to ireland,
Better lock away the dog.

Bootdog

41 posts

166 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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I doubt the new owner will be doing anything with DVLA, but they will need the full V5 document to register it in ROI (assuming it's going to the Republic of Ireland). The buyer asking for the full V5 isn't as dodgy as it might appear.
They also won't be able to roll around in ROI on UK plates for too long - those days are long gone and they will get stopped on the road and/or get hit with penalties when they eventually put it onto Irish plates.
I'd check with your friend about when the car is exported and if you're concerned, do the replacement V5 thing (if you can get valid address details to do it).
The Irish aren't the worst in the world ;-)

595Heaven

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3,366 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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White-Noise said:
OK dumb question but the friend doesn't have any contact details for the buyer?

I'd call the non emergency police number to at least try and record this has happened so its on record. Same sort of approach with the dvla, he at least needs to try and tell them so there is an audit trail.

Thing is to speak to the dvla this must happen all the time, there will be a way to deal with it and this is the primary course of action. Rac or similar may be able to advise too.

Bit odd that the buyer didn't flag this up too. I hope he checked the notes aren't fakes! How much money are we talking roughly out of interest?
Gets more interesting...

Seems the buyer wasn't actually present at the sale - it was the friend, who is now away abroad on business who handed over the cash...

He's now made contacted and said the real buyer will do the V5C paper work tomorrow. Let's see.

The whole thing makes me cringe a bit to be honest. Whenever I've sold, the buyer doesn't get the keys or paperwork until I've done the change of ownership online.

I've said to cancel the insurance at a minimum, but to keep badgering the friend.


595Heaven

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3,366 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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richhead said:
mmm underpaid, exported to ireland,
Better lock away the dog.
biggrin

595Heaven

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3,366 posts

107 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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Bootdog said:
I doubt the new owner will be doing anything with DVLA, but they will need the full V5 document to register it in ROI (assuming it's going to the Republic of Ireland). The buyer asking for the full V5 isn't as dodgy as it might appear.
They also won't be able to roll around in ROI on UK plates for too long - those days are long gone and they will get stopped on the road and/or get hit with penalties when they eventually put it onto Irish plates.
I'd check with your friend about when the car is exported and if you're concerned, do the replacement V5 thing (if you can get valid address details to do it).
The Irish aren't the worst in the world ;-)
I'd hope the buyer is a straight buyer as most people are, but I'm a bit frustrated he didn't ask me or another friend with much more experience of selling cars what he needed to do.

White-Noise

5,500 posts

277 months

Saturday 13th April 2024
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Well that's not bad news I guess. If its a friend that handled it then there shouldn't be anything to worry about. Just a couple of people who don't know how this should work hopefully.