RE: Check out the first production Kamm 912c
RE: Check out the first production Kamm 912c
Tuesday 11th June 2024

Check out the first production Kamm 912c

Rorty restomod proves there's lots to love about the four-pot Porsche


With so many restomodders having a crack at reworking classic Porsche 911s, Kamm’s 912c came as a refreshing change of pace. Not least because it doesn’t involve chopping up yet another 964, but mainly because it shone a light on a car that’s spent its entire life in the 911s show. We loved it, too, especially after Kamm softened the prototype’s harsh ride for a brilliant compromise between road and track. Turns out we’re not the only who dig it either, as Kamm has just delivered the first production 912c to its new owner.

With the buyer based in Miami, chassis 001 is built around a 1966, short-wheelbase version of the 912 sourced from the US. Unlike the green prototype and production-spec car we’ve driven, chassis 001 is finished in a more stealthy black to match its owner's monochromatic car collection. Look a little closer and you’ll notice the centre stripe exposes the carbon fibre weave of the 912c’s lightweight bodywork, while green highlights down the middle and inside the cockpit (special mention to the stunning leather-wrapped carbon bucket seats) add a splash of colour and some extra character.

The headline figures remain largely unchanged from the pre-production car, meaning the same 2.0-litre, JPS-built flat-four delivering 190hp at 7,200rpm. Crucially, it’s only pushing along 750kg (wet), which is every bit as fizzy as you might expect. Significant changes to the steering and suspension were introduced between the original prototype and the car we drove last year, which brought extra compliance and a more relaxed feel respectively. However, Kamm says it’s made further improvements for the 2024, including revised aero for better high-speed stability, revisions to the air conditioning as well as those lovely carbon bucket seats. It also claims the engine has been made ‘more powerful’, though that appears to reference the 20hp step between the prototype and production-spec 912c.

Miklos Kazmer, Kamm’s founder, said: “ Less than 2-years ago I presented the first iteration of the 912c to the world, and now we are starting a year of client deliveries, with a vastly more accomplished and refined version of the 912c than was originally shown. Despite this evolution, it remains a lightweight, analogue and classic looking sports car, that is truly unique within the restomod market.” Colour us immensely jealous of the new owner, then, who travelled to Kamm’s home country of Hungary to see chassis 001 in person before it’s shipped off to the States. If you fancy your own, you’ll need to hand Kamm €325,000 (or £274,000) and a donor car. This 1967 example in Champaign Yellow seems like a good place to start…


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JJJ.

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5,547 posts

44 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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Looks great and there's some nice details too. Noticed the wheels first, very nice. Can't sniff at the power to weight either but to my mind not having a six pot really dampens the desirability.

Chubbyross

4,978 posts

114 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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JJJ. said:
Looks great and there's some nice details too. Noticed the wheels first, very nice. Can't sniff at the power to weight either but to my mind not having a six pot really dampens the desirability.
I agree. If I were to spend a hefty wedge of cash on a restomod Porsche I think I’d want the full 6-cylinder experience.

WPA

14,677 posts

143 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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£270k plus donor car for a 4 cylinder, no thanks

Motormouth88

782 posts

89 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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Lovely, rear looks a little high though in comparison to the skirts

Water Fairy

6,596 posts

184 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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I like it but you buy a lot (several) awesome cars for £270k but I guess if you're in the market for this you are already in that position.

Jon_S_Rally

4,451 posts

117 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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WPA said:
£270k plus donor car for a 4 cylinder, no thanks
Always find comments like this a bit weird. Does it matter what engine configuration a car has? Obviously we all have our preferences, but surely a great car is a great car? Never understood why you'd rule something out just because of its on-paper configuration. Just seems like you're denying yourself a lot of potentially awesome experiences.

Water Fairy

6,596 posts

184 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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Jon_S_Rally said:
WPA said:
£270k plus donor car for a 4 cylinder, no thanks
Always find comments like this a bit weird. Does it matter what engine configuration a car has? Obviously we all have our preferences, but surely a great car is a great car? Never understood why you'd rule something out just because of its on-paper configuration. Just seems like you're denying yourself a lot of potentially awesome experiences.
4 can be good but 6/8/10/12 will be better?

paul13

783 posts

231 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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Water Fairy said:
4 can be good but 6/8/10/12 will be better?
I would be quite happy with this 4 cylinder retromod:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-c...


GTRene

22,465 posts

253 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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paul13 said:
Water Fairy said:
4 can be good but 6/8/10/12 will be better?
I would be quite happy with this 4 cylinder retromod:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-c...
In such model a 4 fits indeed well, but for a 912/911 I also would want a flat 6 engine.

GTRene

22,465 posts

253 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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and ow, nice car, some nice details, but why such long gear stick? I hate that and I believe not really needed in this car looking at the low seats, looks like it can be at least 10cm+ shorter and still easy to reach? makes the connection (shorter throw) with the car even better me thinks.


hairykrishna

14,495 posts

232 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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GTRene said:
and ow, nice car, some nice details, but why such long gear stick? I hate that and I believe not really needed in this car looking at the low seats, looks like it can be at least 10cm+ shorter and still easy to reach? makes the connection (shorter throw) with the car even better me thinks.

It's so you don't have to move your hand far from the wheel.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Always find comments like this a bit weird. Does it matter what engine configuration a car has? Obviously we all have our preferences, but surely a great car is a great car? Never understood why you'd rule something out just because of its on-paper configuration. Just seems like you're denying yourself a lot of potentially awesome experiences.
Some people think car = engine. Some people are thick.

JJJ.

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5,547 posts

44 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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hairykrishna said:
GTRene said:
and ow, nice car, some nice details, but why such long gear stick? I hate that and I believe not really needed in this car looking at the low seats, looks like it can be at least 10cm+ shorter and still easy to reach? makes the connection (shorter throw) with the car even better me thinks.

It's so you don't have to move your hand far from the wheel.
No doubt the complete gear linkage system is re-engineered or modified, thus the longer lever doesn't amplify any vagueness.

GTRene

22,465 posts

253 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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JJJ. said:
hairykrishna said:
GTRene said:
and ow, nice car, some nice details, but why such long gear stick? I hate that and I believe not really needed in this car looking at the low seats, looks like it can be at least 10cm+ shorter and still easy to reach? makes the connection (shorter throw) with the car even better me thinks.

It's so you don't have to move your hand far from the wheel.
No doubt the complete gear linkage system is re-engineered or modified, thus the longer lever doesn't amplify any vagueness.
stil don't like it, you can have 1 hand on the steering and the other on the knob like almost always if you want, its so much better looking and so much more sport (old) like.

then why don't they use such rally like handbrake as high as the stick next to it? its just not needed, I hate it, but hey, thats me.

JJJ.

Original Poster:

5,547 posts

44 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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GTRene said:
JJJ. said:
hairykrishna said:
GTRene said:
and ow, nice car, some nice details, but why such long gear stick? I hate that and I believe not really needed in this car looking at the low seats, looks like it can be at least 10cm+ shorter and still easy to reach? makes the connection (shorter throw) with the car even better me thinks.

It's so you don't have to move your hand far from the wheel.
No doubt the complete gear linkage system is re-engineered or modified, thus the longer lever doesn't amplify any vagueness.
stil don't like it, you can have 1 hand on the steering and the other on the knob like almost always if you want, its so much better looking and so much more sport (old) like.

then why don't they use such rally like handbrake as high as the stick next to it? its just not needed, I hate it, but hey, thats me.
Funny enough, I don't like the lever either, simply because it's carbon instead of alloy. But hey, I'm sure Kamm can sort the height and material when we order our cars! biggrin

Bencolem

1,184 posts

268 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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750kg. 190hp. 4 cylinder. Fizzy driving dynamics. I’d take an Elise and £250k for something else.

Prestonese

805 posts

134 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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paul13 said:
I would be quite happy with this 4 cylinder retromod:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-c...
I'd be happy with this original 4 cylinder motor

https://youtu.be/_KzoAiD5oVw?si=ouOiorMUvhsAlw3h


thegreenhell

23,912 posts

248 months

Tuesday 11th June 2024
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I like the concept of this, but hate all the carbon fibre. It looks so out of place on a classic car. There are far nicer, more tactile materials that could be used for the interior. CF is just hard, shiny plastic with a fuzzy pattern, and it's not even being used for its structural properties most of the time.

I don't mind that it only has four cylinders. It will weight less and handle better than a six. However, if I was doing this I'd ditch the old pushrod engine and fit a 964-based Polomotor.

wistec1

795 posts

70 months

Wednesday 12th June 2024
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Yawn.......Another resto porker.

Jon_S_Rally

4,451 posts

117 months

Wednesday 12th June 2024
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Water Fairy said:
4 can be good but 6/8/10/12 will be better?
I would take issue with one word in your response. It's not a case of 6/8/10/12 will be better, but that it could be better. More cylinders doesn't necessarily equal a better experience. I would imagine this car is far more exciting than a bog-standard 996 Carrera for example.

I know it's very subjective of course, and we all have our own preferences, but I just find it a bit strange that someone could dismiss a car based on what it says on a screen or a piece of paper. It's surely far better to drive it and judge it on individual merit. There have been some fabulous four-cylinder cars, some really dreadful 6/8/10/12 cylinder ones and vice versa. Assuming more=better just seems like a way to deny yourself some potentially great experiences for no real reason.

Bencolem said:
750kg. 190hp. 4 cylinder. Fizzy driving dynamics. I’d take an Elise and £250k for something else.
Given that the article talks about this example being added to a collection, I think it's safe to say that the clientele for this car already has plenty of "something else" laugh