RE: Fiat pays homage to Panda 4x4 with low-cost EV

RE: Fiat pays homage to Panda 4x4 with low-cost EV

Thursday 13th June 2024

Fiat pays homage to Panda 4x4 with low-cost EV

The incoming Grande Panda is tipped to be cheap and practical and 'a real Fiat'


The last Panda 4x4 was easy to like. The Panda 4x4 before that, as squared off as a Rubik’s Cube, was downright loveable. For a time, if you lived in the Alps, it was practically the law that you had to have one. Few cars have ever been so acutely fit for purpose. The Grande Panda will not be that because it’ll be available exclusively as either an EV or a hybrid and therefore will be about as lightweight as the Resolute desk. But Fiat well understands the affection that three generations of rugged Panda generated in buyers, and clearly the incoming replacement is intended to take full advantage of it. 

“The best way to celebrate Fiat’s 125 years is to start writing the first pages of our future, starting with the new Grande Panda. Designed in Turin, Italy by our Centro Stile, Fiat’s new creation embodies its forerunner’s values,” said Olivier Francois, the brand’s CEO. “With the Grande Panda, Fiat now begins its transition to global common platforms that cover all regions of the world, passing on the resulting benefits to its customers worldwide. In fact, the Grande Panda is perfectly suited for families and urban mobility in every country... a real Fiat!”

The shared architecture he’s talking about there is the ‘multi-energy’ STLA Smart platform which currently underpins the Citroen C3 but is set to form the basis of revitalised Fiat lineup, with plans to launch a new model every year until 2027. The Grande Panda will be the first, and is set to be relatively compact at 3.99 metres long while still accommodating five people in an interior that is promised to make ‘innovative and smart use of space’. There are precious few other details at this stage, although plainly it's feasible that the car will share the C3’s modest powertrain choice, too, including its 1.2-litre three-pot petrol engine. 

But clearly it’s the styling that is intended to stand out. Fiat says its ‘Italian personality’ is all about ‘a subtle combination of structured lines and soft and bold surfaces that emphasise the robust wheel arches’ - although it doesn’t quibble when it comes to the obvious 4x4 reference; the lettering on the flanks is meant as a specific homage. Needless to say, the Grande Panda will not be alone when it arrives (Hyundai previewed its Dacia Spring rival earlier this week) but Fiat will feel like its long-running nameplate gives it a significant advantage in steering buyers toward previously forlorn Fiat dealerships. Let’s just hope the new version delivers the proper 4x4 variant to cash the cheques its bodywork is frantically writing. Because a replacement for the Panda 100HP is even less likely...


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zeta3

Original Poster:

79 posts

174 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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A glorified Citroen C3

The original Giugiaro designed Panda "141" was simpleness in its purest form, motorbike inspired, I'd say, a real design prowess.

this thing is complicated, overstyled, fat, pixel-rococo.

I'd rather take a 1984 4*4 (which i just did, btw)

malaccamax

1,406 posts

244 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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looks pretty nice I'd say. Yes it's on the Citroen e-C3 platform but it doesn't look much like it.

Also you can't have a cheap car today unless the parts are shared with multiple other models. Not possible.

boozyjay

182 posts

79 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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I've got one of the last 4x4 Cross models and a standard TwinAir Lounge. They are both brilliant cars and I intend to keep them. That new one is just too big and I can't see them bringing a 4x4 version out. It's a Stellantis mash up and not a proper small Fiat.

4s n Zer0s

4,750 posts

92 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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Panda 141A 2WD owner approves of this .thumbup

Gavarnie

145 posts

71 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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Yep, that will do the trick. Hopefully available in dark green to replace the last one.


GTRene

18,671 posts

237 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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not bad, although a bit big/high, but looks in proportions.

it reminded me a bit of the Suzuki Jimny? a bit suv/jeep-ish




garypotter

1,848 posts

163 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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at least it looks different from all the other euro/chinese crap coming out at the moment. i feel it will depend on sale price adn to see if it is a success.

lancslad58

1,193 posts

21 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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boozyjay said:
I've got one of the last 4x4 Cross models and a standard TwinAir Lounge. They are both brilliant cars and I intend to keep them. That new one is just too big and I can't see them bringing a 4x4 version out. It's a Stellantis mash up and not a proper small Fiat.
Snap, except a twin air! There are still a handfull of older models around.
I do like the compass on the info peanel. I believe the original 4x4 had an actul compass!


V12GT

484 posts

103 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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lancslad58 said:
boozyjay said:
I've got one of the last 4x4 Cross models and a standard TwinAir Lounge. They are both brilliant cars and I intend to keep them. That new one is just too big and I can't see them bringing a 4x4 version out. It's a Stellantis mash up and not a proper small Fiat.
Snap, except a twin air! There are still a handfull of older models around.
I do like the compass on the info peanel. I believe the original 4x4 had an actul compass!
We have a Panda for the kids to learn in, but my wife wants to get the “Cross Panda”, mostly because of the name! They are great little cars.

This one looks a bit too “Grande” - not really meeting the image of a tiny car winding its way up narrow mountain roads.

nunpuncher

3,528 posts

138 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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I really like that. Not sure if it's the colour, the retro revival theme or some of the styling but I can't help compare it to the electric Renault/Alpine 5 thingy. Yet despite being a French hot hatch fan I'd rather have this. Just feels like an electric power train would suit it better than something I associate with a revvy little hooligan car.

airsafari87

3,035 posts

195 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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Nice idea but ….

It won’t be tempting me out of my current model.


PositronicRay

27,905 posts

196 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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nunpuncher said:
I really like that. Not sure if it's the colour, the retro revival theme or some of the styling but I can't help compare it to the electric Renault/Alpine 5 thingy. Yet despite being a French hot hatch fan I'd rather have this. Just feels like an electric power train would suit it better than something I associate with a revvy little hooligan car.
Agreed.

The rate small EVs are being announced we'll be swamped with choice soon.

A500leroy

6,449 posts

131 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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PositronicRay said:
Agreed.

The rate small EVs are being announced we'll be swamped with choice soon.
GOOD.

Much sooner proper small city ev cars to nip around in than bloated SUVS.

cannedrex2406

11 posts

62 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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You know what, I really like this actually. It's a great looking car and having both ICE AND EV powertrains is perfect to keep options open for those who want small cars.


I've always said the Panda is the best car for anyone who lives in a city and this reaffirms my point.

InitialDave

12,980 posts

132 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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I quite like it, but much as I'd like them to, I doubt they'll make an actual 4x4 version.

nismo48

5,027 posts

220 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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A500leroy said:
PositronicRay said:
Agreed.

The rate small EVs are being announced we'll be swamped with choice soon.
GOOD.

Much sooner proper small city ev cars to nip around in than bloated SUVS.
Exactly this

Mikebentley

7,166 posts

153 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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It looks a bit too much like the Jeep Avenger to me. Shame as I love a Panda the last being a 2013 Trekking multijet diesel which was frankly awesome.

FMOB

1,994 posts

25 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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Pixel rococo rofl

Dombilano

1,298 posts

68 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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Whos decided that these stupid blocky/pixel lights is the way to go, they look like a 2004 computer game vision of future cars.
Panda embossed in the doors is just overkill cute.
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georgeyboy12345

3,825 posts

48 months

Friday 14th June 2024
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So the hybrid will have that crappy PSA 1.2 Puretech with the wet cambelt design. I’d sooner have the EV