RE: Kia Stinger GT-S | Spotted 
RE: Kia Stinger GT-S | Spotted 
Monday 17th June 2024

Kia Stinger GT-S | Spotted 

Kia's 370hp rear-drive fastback is forever destined to be a forgotten gem. Please, tell your parents


A mate of a mate is trying to get his old man to buy a Stinger GT-S. He is pitching Kia’s hot rod for lots of good and valid reasons that we know about: it’s very practical, it looks good, it goes fast and it is fairly sensational value for money. But the secret reason he wants his now-retired dad to buy it is that in the fullness of time he will likely get his mitts on it. And that says a lot about a) the now-defunct Stinger and b) Kia in general. 

Twenty years ago, it is unlikely that someone’s adult child would be hatching a multi-year plan to acquire a used Kia. Lest we forget, the firm launched in Europe in 1991 with the Pride. Which, as a rebadged Ford Festiva (or a Mazda 121, depending on where you lived) had precious little to be proud about. It then stoked the embers with the first-generation Sportage, a car that used the Mazda Bongo as a jumping-off point, and the Mentor - its first go at designing a model from scratch. 

If you can’t recall what the Mentor looks like, that’s because it sold like a sandwich that lists e-coli as an ingredient. In 1995, Kia sold fewer cars in the UK than it had in 1993. By 1998, in the wake of the Asian financial crisis, it looked like it might have to throw in the towel when the entire range didn't account for more than 3,000 cars sold. But then Hyundai galloped to the rescue in Korea and with new models like the Picanto, started to turn the ship around. In 2006 Kia opened its first factory in Europe and hired Peter Schreyer as design boss. The rest, they say, is history. 

But even against the backdrop of big sales and a bigger heap of stylish, tiger-nosed cars, the Stinger seemed like a departure. And that’s because it was. The Stinger wasn’t a mainstream hatchback or family crossover, it was a tank on Audi’s lawn. Here was five-door, rear-drive fastback engineered by Albert Biermann to make good use of the range-topping 3.3-litre V6 and designed to make an S5 Sportback owner stop and stare. 

And sure, it wasn’t perfect. But in GT-S format it had 370hp, would do 0-62mph in under five seconds, was adaptively damped, came with a mechanical limited-slip diff as standard and looked the business. It was the halo car Kia had never had before in Europe, and you could buy one for a whisker over £40k. The fact that not a huge amount of people did says a good deal more about the insular, image-preoccupied nature of the UK market than it does the car - if Kia managed to get the right person in it, they generally loved it. We did. 

Seven years on from its launch - and three years since Kia announced that it would not directly replace the Stinger - that leaves the model in roughly the same position: barely known about or acknowledged by the majority, and therefore cherished by a bargain-hunting minority that favour a sonorous, well-equipped sort of honesty over badge snobbery. This one-owner example in Sunset Yellow has covered less than 18k in six years, and can be had for less than £25k. It’s got a lifetime of GT-style pleasure yet to give. Or possibly two, if someone gets their story right. 


SPECIFICATION | KIA STINGER GT-S

Engine: 3,342cc V6, twin-turbocharged
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive, limited-slip differential
Power (hp): 370@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 376@1,300-4,500rpm
CO2: 225g/km (WLTP)
MPG: 28 (WLTP)
First registered: 2018
Recorded mileage: 18,416
Price new: £42,495
Yours for: £24,495

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Maccmike8

Original Poster:

1,376 posts

71 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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I would seriously consider one of these. Shame its not 4wd.

biggbn

27,946 posts

237 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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Yup, that right there would do me for the next twenty years!!

Mysstree

540 posts

63 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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Seems reasonably priced and competitively priced against others. Its not fifty shades of boring either.
Warranty expires next April (7years) so maybe thats why its being sold.

BOR

5,036 posts

272 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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I've had my eye on these for quite some time, but surprisingly, they don't seem to depreciate fast enough to be a rational choice over a BMW AUDI etc.

sidesauce

2,929 posts

235 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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Article said:
It was the halo car Kia had never had before in Europe, and you could buy one for a whisker over £40k. The fact that not a huge amount of people did says a good deal more about the insular, image-preoccupied nature of the UK market than it does the car
Or it says that Europe, as a whole, simply didn't think it was special, at all - not just the UK.

This car was an absolute sales flop, selling around 10,000 vehicles across the entire European continent and it's not hard to see why; most normal people simply wouldn't spend that kind of money on an Asian car with no prior history in the segment when they could buy a BMW, Mercedes or Audi instead.

People on here can talk a great game and "back the underdog" all they like but when it actually comes down to parting with cash most people will understandably go with what they know. It was good but not that good in comparison to its market leading rivals so it deservedly sank without trace.

Funk

26,919 posts

226 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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I looked very seriously at buying one of these but the service intervals put me off; every 6 months or 6000 miles..! My Audi S5 doesn't want to go anywhere near the dealer for 2 years or 20,000 miles (I picked it up in July '23 with a fresh service, it's saying next service is due in July '25..).

Also the Stinger gets hit with the highest rate of VED for the first 6 years as well as they put it *just* over £40k list. First year would've been £1,650 then £600/yr for the next 5 years. Putting it at £39,999 list would've saved £2k in VED over that period.

FWIW I would happily have had one but the running costs put me off.

Edited by Funk on Monday 17th June 13:48

Triumph Man

9,151 posts

185 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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Maccmike8 said:
I would seriously consider one of these. Shame its not 4wd.
What's wrong with it being RWD?

I drove one of these, and, slightly soft damping aside, really liked it.

curvature

495 posts

91 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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What really puts me off is the grills/vents on the bonnet.

Not sure if they actually do anything but when I looked at a used diesel version that was the main thing that put me off.

cerb4.5lee

38,294 posts

197 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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I do like these, but predictably I'd buy one of the Germans with my own money instead though. Plus the 6 months/6k miles servicing did my head in with the S14a 200SX that I had, so I wouldn't fancy that again to be honest.

Prolex-UK

4,513 posts

225 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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sidesauce said:
Article said:
It was the halo car Kia had never had before in Europe, and you could buy one for a whisker over £40k. The fact that not a huge amount of people did says a good deal more about the insular, image-preoccupied nature of the UK market than it does the car
Or it says that Europe, as a whole, simply didn't think it was special, at all - not just the UK.

This car was an absolute sales flop, selling around 10,000 vehicles across the entire European continent and it's not hard to see why; most normal people simply wouldn't spend that kind of money on an Asian car with no prior history in the segment when they could buy a BMW, Mercedes or Audi instead.

People on here can talk a great game and "back the underdog" all they like but when it actually comes down to parting with cash most people will understandably go with what they know. It was good but not that good in comparison to its market leading rivals so it deservedly sank without trace.
I have a 2021 Stinger.

Pre 2021 they were under 40k .

Had mine since Jan 2022 was on 7k miles now 23k miles.

Front discs changed under warranty at 14k is only fault.

Paid £730 up front for 4 services .

6k intervals are a PITA but you get used to it.

MPG is 20 ish on short runs and Mid to high 30s on a run.

Number sold is good for me as means it's easier to find in car parks.


If you put aside any prejudices why would you buy a 4 year old BMW or VAG 350bhp car against the stinger with 3 years factory warranty left ?

On MPG on a recent track day it did a glorious 5 MPG

Give one a try

CG2020UK

2,723 posts

57 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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I like these regardless of how successful they were in terms of sales.

Think they were always going to struggle especially in the U.K with the image Kia has.

J4CKO

44,772 posts

217 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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CG2020UK said:
I like these regardless of how successful they were in terms of sales.

Think they were always going to struggle especially in the U.K with the image Kia has.
I like the idea of a hot Kia/Hyundai, Its not like the German stuff has a peerless image these days, and hasnt had for a long time.

ChrisH79

239 posts

31 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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I think image of the brand aside it was the right car at the wrong time. Almost as soon as it launched KIA began pushing more SUVs and developing EV/Hybrid tech. They should have been pushing existing customers into these or at least the lesser models in the range. I’d find the 2.2 diesel one a very good daily and far better specced than its German Equivalent.

kambites

69,912 posts

238 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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cerb4.5lee said:
I do like these, but predictably I'd buy one of the Germans with my own money instead though. Plus the 6 months/6k miles servicing did my head in with the S14a 200SX that I had, so I wouldn't fancy that again to be honest.
Worth noting that whilst Kia UK recommend 6 months or 6k miles, Kia US recommend yearly services (albeit every 6k miles, I think) on what is, as far as I can tell, exactly the same engine in the same state of tune.

kambites

69,912 posts

238 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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ChrisH79 said:
I think image of the brand aside it was the right car at the wrong time.
They probably never expected anyone in the UK to actually buy it, but I think it did wonders for perception of the brand, which was probably the point.

sidesauce

2,929 posts

235 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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Prolex-UK said:
sidesauce said:
Article said:
It was the halo car Kia had never had before in Europe, and you could buy one for a whisker over £40k. The fact that not a huge amount of people did says a good deal more about the insular, image-preoccupied nature of the UK market than it does the car
Or it says that Europe, as a whole, simply didn't think it was special, at all - not just the UK.

This car was an absolute sales flop, selling around 10,000 vehicles across the entire European continent and it's not hard to see why; most normal people simply wouldn't spend that kind of money on an Asian car with no prior history in the segment when they could buy a BMW, Mercedes or Audi instead.

People on here can talk a great game and "back the underdog" all they like but when it actually comes down to parting with cash most people will understandably go with what they know. It was good but not that good in comparison to its market leading rivals so it deservedly sank without trace.
I have a 2021 Stinger.

Pre 2021 they were under 40k .

Had mine since Jan 2022 was on 7k miles now 23k miles.

Front discs changed under warranty at 14k is only fault.

Paid £730 up front for 4 services .

6k intervals are a PITA but you get used to it.

MPG is 20 ish on short runs and Mid to high 30s on a run.

Number sold is good for me as means it's easier to find in car parks.


If you put aside any prejudices why would you buy a 4 year old BMW or VAG 350bhp car against the stinger with 3 years factory warranty left ?

On MPG on a recent track day it did a glorious 5 MPG

Give one a try
It's not a 'brand prejudice' thing for me as such, I just didn't particularly care for it as it didn't feel particularly special. I remember looking at a Stinger back in 2019 but instead I bought a two-owner late 2015 model i8 with 14k on the clock for £41k from BMW themselves and kept it for four years. In that time I put around 42k miles on it.

The i8 was never was anything other than 100% reliable, needed fewer servicing intervals (interim every 12 months/12k miles, full every 2 years/24k miles) meaning the cost was comparable to what you'd be paying using third parties. There was zero road tax, no ULEZ/CAZ and, for a while, no Congestion Charge in London either.

I never had to change the brake discs (isn't braking re-gen wonderful!?) and it was more fuel efficient than the Stinger - I'd regularly see 62+ mpg on motorway runs, town driving was closer to 39+ mpg. I couldn't get it to do under 30 mpg, no matter how much I tried.

It was WAY cooler to look at than the Stinger and weighed almost 400 kgs less so significantly outperformed it too.

If you want to talk about numbers sold, BMW shifted around 2,500 i8s in the UK so I can promise you it was far easier to find in any car park compared to your car!

I've moved on to BEVs now and wouldn't go back to any ICE in the segment the Stinger inhabits.

In summary, clearly the whole of Europe pretty much felt the same way about the car as I did.


Edited by sidesauce on Monday 17th June 14:56

Funk

26,919 posts

226 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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kambites said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I do like these, but predictably I'd buy one of the Germans with my own money instead though. Plus the 6 months/6k miles servicing did my head in with the S14a 200SX that I had, so I wouldn't fancy that again to be honest.
Worth noting that whilst Kia UK recommend 6 months or 6k miles, Kia US recommend yearly services (albeit every 6k miles, I think) on what is, as far as I can tell, exactly the same engine in the same state of tune.
As I understood it, you had to have the 6-monthly services in the UK in order to maintain the 7 year warranty.

kambites

69,912 posts

238 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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Funk said:
As I understood it, you had to have the 6-monthly services in the UK in order to maintain the 7 year warranty.
I'm sure you did, and that would have been a real concern buying new, but this one is close to going out of warranty anyway. Any of its competition would already be years out of warranty do even if you do invalidate the warranty now, you haven't really lost much.

Lotusgav

156 posts

176 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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Think of it as a cut price panamera and they start looking sensible. Same specs pretty much as a 10 year old one…

el romeral

1,693 posts

154 months

Monday 17th June 2024
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That looks better than ever, especially in yellow. I can’t say that I have ever seen one in the wild though, on the roads here in Spain.