RE: BMW 325ti Compact (E46) | PH Fleet
RE: BMW 325ti Compact (E46) | PH Fleet
Wednesday 17th July 2024

BMW 325ti Compact (E46) | PH Fleet

Thoroughly modern Mazda lasted a while, then...


There’s always a danger, when your job involves a lot of scouring the PH classifieds, that something will crop up that you might want. Or rather, something crops up that you might want - and can actually sort of afford. As so often tends to be the case, I really wasn’t looking (much) for a car when this Japan Red 325ti was listed. It was about the time the new, even less appealing M135 was shown; while the E46 was a nice reminder of when weird looking BMW hatches were at least kind of interesting, it wasn’t for me. My Mazda 3 was fulfilling its duties perfectly, offering exactly the kind of fuss free, easygoing transport I’d bought it for. The last thing I needed was a 150,000-mile BMW…

It would sell, anyway, what with the recently fitted Bilstein B12 suspension, Apple CarPlay, new brakes, water pump, thermostat and so on. The MOT was advisory free until Feb, E46s are still loved, and manuals remain the most desirable (even the five-speeds). I told myself to just let it go. We were going on holiday soon after, then there was Goodwood Festival of Speed, then there was also the small concern of not actually having the money to buy any kind of car. 

We got back from holiday and the Compact was still around, now with an even more tempting price. People still really don’t like 3 Series hatchbacks, it would seem. Perhaps that should have put me off. The bank would all too readily lend the money, albeit at about four times the interest of the last time (thanks very much, Liz Truss). The more I thought about keeping the Mazda, the more the prospect of changing appealed - it’s just a bit too sensible (and slow) for something that doesn’t have to be used every day. The idea of having a car I liked more and a few thousand pounds appealed a lot more as well. Even if the jeopardy of an old BMW didn’t. 

I had to enquire. Jon, the seller, could not have been better to deal with. As well as his very detailed ad (plus a great collection that includes a Giulia Quadrifoglio and Caterham Seven), he was always willing to chat over message and phone. I was all prepared to view the Compact (about 90 minutes away) on a Sunday, when Jon said someone was very keen to view it the day before - drat. It was going to go then, surely. But it didn’t. Perhaps that should have put me off, too. Undeterred, I picked up where we’d left off and within a couple of days the BMW was on my drive. 

To say I’m thrilled would be a considerable understatement. Despite the detail of the ad, I was fully prepared for an eight-owner, 150,000-mile, £3k 3 Series to be a bit rough around the edges, but it very much isn’t. The paint is still really red everywhere, there aren’t many scratches at all, the diddy 16-inch wheels look ace, everything works inside and it starts on the button. A great wad of history, including the original invoice, was great to see, too. The driver’s seat will need a bit of attention soon, but other than that it seems in remarkably good condition. 

Where the Mazda could sit outside and never really be thought about, I’m finding every excuse possible to poke around the Compact. It’s the new car excitement that never materialised before, and it feels fantastic. I hadn’t realised how rare this 3 Series was now, either, with HowManyLeft suggesting just 14 SE-spec 325tis are out there. I enjoy having something less common, for sure. No doubt the appeal of a much more modern and popular car will come to the fore right after the Mazda is sold... 

There aren’t any great BMW plans, other than to keep it looking as red as possible, take it to all the car places I’d feel a bit embarrassed to take the Mazda (starting with PH26) and get charging on towards 200k. I’ll have it inspected properly, just to see what will need doing in time, and a bit more noise probably wouldn’t go amiss either, however for now I’m overjoyed to have a different red hatchback outside. More on actually driving it next time - see you at Bicester! 


FACT SHEET 

Car: 2003 BMW 325ti Compact
Run by: Matt Bird
On fleet since: July 2024
Bought for: £2,999
Mileage: 150,598
Last month at a glance: Fortune favours the brave, doesn’t it?

Author
Discussion

ChrisCh86

Original Poster:

1,127 posts

73 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Blimey, you change cars more often than I change my shirt.

Can we assume that there's one boring family car around that doesn't change every 5 minutes, and that this is the bit of fun on the side?



Nice car though, and yes the Mazda was boring - but you knew that when you bought it smile

WCZ

11,500 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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one of my only issues with these is they look awful

Eeyoreish

16 posts

128 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Nice E36 Compacts are really starting to rise in value now, especially manuals and not just to would be drifters. E46s will surely follow as there become less and less good ones around.

daveco

4,400 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Eeyoreish said:
Nice E36 Compacts are really starting to rise in value now, especially manuals and not just to would be drifters. E46s will surely follow as there become less and less good ones around.
That seems odd considering the E46 compact was such a big improvement dynamically over the E36 version - but the E36 does look a lot better imo.

Anything that is roughly 1200kg and has near on 200hp (fitted with a shorter final drive too) is going to be fun!

I remember driving one and thinking the performance stats were way off - felt every bit as quick as a E46 330ci

Muzzman

241 posts

142 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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I bought one of these during lockdown for occasional track duties and annual Nürburgring trips.

I put an M54b30 in it with S50B30 exhaust manifold, Gaz Gold coilovers, bigger brakes and Nangkang NS2R's, stripped out some weight and had a decent enough track car for not much money. I've also got an LSD for it but haven't got round to fitting it.

I also fitted a Hopwood Motorsport uprated oil pump as the normal one tends to sheer bolts on track and can cause all sorts of bother to your engine.


Lil_Red_GTV

808 posts

172 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Ahh, the old chestnut of what to buy as a car enthusiast of limited means! Interesting answer to that tricky question. At least it's a bit different.

Joumasenaai

7 posts

27 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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A go-kart with an inline 6, an excellent acquisition.

Wren-went

1,062 posts

67 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Friend of mine had the same model & had the E36 Version but 318T before.

At the time I had an E46 320d, my mates car reliability wise hands down a better car mine was an early car on an S reg bought at 2 years old ex company car with 90,000 miles on it , in 18 months it went & I've never bought another BMW.

Both compacts my mate had were good cars sadly both were Autos & the 325 Ti a horrible light mint metallic green.

£3 grand for a 150,000 miles E46 325Ti seems strong money at least 5 on Autotrader sorry , with a lot less miles for that money.
The straight six is a brilliant engine & still sound great.

NDNDNDND

2,546 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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daveco said:
Eeyoreish said:
Nice E36 Compacts are really starting to rise in value now, especially manuals and not just to would be drifters. E46s will surely follow as there become less and less good ones around.
That seems odd considering the E46 compact was such a big improvement dynamically over the E36 version - but the E36 does look a lot better imo.

Anything that is roughly 1200kg and has near on 200hp (fitted with a shorter final drive too) is going to be fun!

I remember driving one and thinking the performance stats were way off - felt every bit as quick as a E46 330ci
One big advantage of the E36 is that it runs a cable throttle, which is somewhat better than the unresponsive valvetronic nonsense in the E46.

Olivergt

2,254 posts

110 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Lot's of love for these, if you need any more information, just go here...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

theicemario

1,573 posts

104 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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That looks fantastic. Such a nice and rare colour too. Very jealous!

Matt Bird

1,554 posts

234 months

PH Reportery Lad

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Thanks all for the feedback boxedin Should add there is an X3 family car around, yes. And I'd have gladly kept the Mini if it hadn't died!

FaustF

806 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Excellent choice and great colour too!

broadspeed1

119 posts

65 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Not for me, I've got an E46 and the constant maintenance is a ball ache.

skylarking808

1,207 posts

115 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Those 16 inch wheels look great and are fairly light iirc. Had them.on an old E36.

Court_S

14,717 posts

206 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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I like these boxedin

Yours is a later car with the red rear lights which are a massive improvement on the clear ones that mine had; they looked st back then and haven’t got any better.

I really liked mine; it drove well and returned a smidge under 32mpg no matter how I drove it. Unfortunately it was quite needy and at that point I didn’t tackle anything myself so it had to go.

nismo48

7,017 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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FaustF said:
Excellent choice and great colour too!
+1

Antj

1,147 posts

229 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Look the Mazda is gone, that whole purchase still looks like an April fools for a car journo to purchase something as dead and soulless as a Mazda potato.

325ti is a comparatively amazing purchase. Any BMW with Ti on the badge ( bar the latest FWD monstrosity BMW released ) is a good start. However E46 based compact was so blooming ugly. but its still a justifiable purchase.

Although 2995 is 130i money and that would have been the infinitely better choice, from engine and looks and reliability / rust.

but its not a Mazda potato so that's the best bit, oh and its Red which is still a surprisingly rare colour in E46 let alone BMW world.

GreatScott2016

2,510 posts

117 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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Blimey, Mrs S had one of these when I first met her! Personally, I think they look great and put some modern BMWs to shame (not difficult some would say). Anyway, a stylish interior. Recall it also shifted too smile

BFleming

3,914 posts

172 months

Wednesday 17th July 2024
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daveco said:
Eeyoreish said:
Nice E36 Compacts are really starting to rise in value now, especially manuals and not just to would be drifters. E46s will surely follow as there become less and less good ones around.
That seems odd considering the E46 compact was such a big improvement dynamically over the E36 version - but the E36 does look a lot better imo.
I've been following Compacts in the classifieds for the last 25+ years. Bought a 6 month old E36 Compact back in Germany in 1997, and even through it was a lowly 316i, it was a step up from the Corsa SRI it directly replaced - and "something different" to the 309 GTI was wheeling about in at the time. Superbly built, the options list was long and barely ticked by the first owner of our car. We got a sunroof, and that was it. Steel wheels, no air con, no CD player... the mean years of BMW. We sold ours in 2000 as we had moved to the UK at that stage, and in London, LHD was impractical. I've wanted one back ever since!
Even back in the late 2000s, truly good ones were rare. Early ones became tatty very quickly; even then, rear arches were beginning to go crusty - and that was only what you could see. The early interiors were lairy colours that wore badly, and (as stated above) a lot became donor receiver vehicles for 6 cylinder transplants - particularly as RHD countries were denied the 323ti.
Any I've looked at in the last few years have been advertised as good, but in reality they've been average. The last of the E36s - 1999-on are probably the best, but buy carefully.
The E46 Compact was less of a parts bin car than the E36, but even so, BMW did some strange things with colours and specs. Full length fabric sunroof anyone? OK, that was a special edition, but the occasional blue dashboard & seats?
In E46 Compact guise, I've only ever sampled my friend's 2001 325ti; it drove well (very well), and felt much like my brother's early E46 328i power-wise (both had 192 bhp on paper IIRC).
My heart says I'd prefer an E36, but find me a truly good (yet affordable) one.
The E46 Compact has never grabbed me like the E36 Compact, but maybe that's my rose tinted glasses.