How long should a car manufacturer make parts for?
How long should a car manufacturer make parts for?
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Riley Blue

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23,205 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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One of my cars was broken into recently, a very popular 2016 model from a very large manufacturer. Fortunately nothing was taken, the car wasn't stolen but the door lock and handle trim needed to be replaced. No problem with the door lock but the driver's door handle trim is no longer available although a similar part from a lower specification model is.

The thing is, that makes that door handle look different from the other three and makes the lock visible when originally it was concealed.

I am expecting too much?


Doofus

34,357 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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The manufacturer is only obliged to support a car until the warranty expires, AIUI. There's a 10-year rumour, but it's a myth.

It seems that Covid (which has been blamed for all kinds of failings) affected the supply of 'minor' parts, and nobody's bothered to find alternative sources since.

swisstoni

23,964 posts

308 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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Perhaps one of the hidden costs of a car.
Buy one make and you get good parts support for at least a decade.
Buy another and you don’t.

Of course nobody cares when they buy a new car, and even less when they are leasing.

hidetheelephants

35,828 posts

222 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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Change the other 3 handles or look for a good used handle of the original style; not a new phenomenon unfortunately, model transition or dropped trim levels might only have been current for months before vanishing.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Friday 2nd August 20:07

MikeM6

6,044 posts

131 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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It's interesting to note that M539 Restoration (on YouTube) really struggled to get parts for his Maserati as they are NLA. Which is odd, as the car itself is still currently in production!

I struggled to get parts for a previous car and it was part of the reason I moved it on.

Simon_GH

999 posts

109 months

Friday 2nd August 2024
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There are plenty of car breakers on eBay - worth a look?

Riley Blue

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23,205 posts

255 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Simon_GH said:
There are plenty of car breakers on eBay - worth a look?
I've looked, not one of them is currently offering the part.

119

19,897 posts

65 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Can you imagine how big the warehouse would need to be to house parts for every single car they make, and also for cars they have stopped producing?


alfaspecial

1,193 posts

169 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Five years back a neighbour bought a brand new Honda Jazz. A couple of months later someone went into the back of him, damaging the tailgate. He had a courtesy car for two months whilst Honda sourced a replacement panel (from Japan). For a brand new car.

Manufacturers not having parts in the system (and consequent reliance on courtesy cars) is, I suspect, one of the reasons that car insurance has leapt.

I think we need a change in the law. Cars 'should' last 15 years, so ALL parts should be available for 15 years IMHO

Riley Blue

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255 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Sheepshanks

40,994 posts

148 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Trim parts have always been difficult.

Lo-Fi

1,290 posts

99 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Doofus said:
The manufacturer is only obliged to support a car until the warranty expires, AIUI. There's a 10-year rumour, but it's a myth.

It seems that Covid (which has been blamed for all kinds of failings) affected the supply of 'minor' parts, and nobody's bothered to find alternative sources since.
I thought the 10 year thing was actual law in Germany. Sure I read that once.

Lo-Fi

1,290 posts

99 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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A quick Google

Lester H

4,375 posts

134 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Riley Blue said:
One of my cars was broken into recently, a very popular 2016 model from a very large manufacturer. Fortunately nothing was taken, the car wasn't stolen but the door lock and handle trim needed to be replaced. No problem with the door lock but the driver's door handle trim is no longer available although a similar part from a lower specification model is.

The thing is, that makes that door handle look different from the other three and makes the lock visible when originally it was concealed.

I am expecting too much?
Not at all. 2016? To my way of thinking, it’s nearly new! Scrapyard don’t really want to bothered with bits of trim, either. Ironic, though that you can get almost anything for an Austin7 of Model T. Incidentally, I have found Peugeot main dealer excellent for small parts and trim, if extortionate.

Edited by Lester H on Saturday 3rd August 08:20

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19,897 posts

65 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Leins

10,438 posts

177 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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For the Germans IME BMW, Porsche and Mercedes are very strong on this, Audi not so

It was one of my concerns with my B5 RS4 as I was finding quite a lot of parts had gone NLA. It’s a manufacturers prerogative I know, but they do wheel out their older models for marketing purposes quite frequently

anyoldcardave

1,081 posts

96 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Riley Blue said:
One of my cars was broken into recently, a very popular 2016 model from a very large manufacturer. Fortunately nothing was taken, the car wasn't stolen but the door lock and handle trim needed to be replaced. No problem with the door lock but the driver's door handle trim is no longer available although a similar part from a lower specification model is.

The thing is, that makes that door handle look different from the other three and makes the lock visible when originally it was concealed.

I am expecting too much?
Expecting too much ?, probably from a main agent, widen your search, a lot of older stock is listed by Ford Main agents on the E site, others probably do it too.

Specialist salvage breakers list a lot of parts too. Look for marque breakers too. A search engine is your friend,

Only taken me 18 months to find a window regulator for a 91 Carlton, rear one luckily, had to buy a whole car to get it. and another to obtain a rust free rear panel.

There is not a lot you cannot find eventually if you put your mind to it, and a 2016 car should be easier than older cars.



anyoldcardave

1,081 posts

96 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Lester H said:
Not at all. 2016? To my way of thinking, it’s nearly new! Scrapyard don’t really want to bothered with bits of trim, either. Ironic, though that you can get almost anything for an Austin7 of Model T. Incidentally, I have found Peugeot main dealer excellent for small parts and trim, if extortionate.

Edited by Lester H on Saturday 3rd August 08:20
They may not remove and list them, but if you actually talk to them, if they have it, they will supply it.

Searching for other parts of the same car and calling the dismantler is one method I use. It all depends on how much you want the part and the time you have to put into finding it.

In this case, a search for doors, may well help.

Bobupndown

2,952 posts

72 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Depends on the manufacturer and the popularity of the model. I have a 61 year old Mini and can buy just about anything I'd ever need off the shelf, including a full body shell and every item of trim.

Jader1973

5,137 posts

229 months

Saturday 3rd August 2024
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Bobupndown said:
Depends on the manufacturer and the popularity of the model. I have a 61 year old Mini and can buy just about anything I'd ever need off the shelf, including a full body shell and every item of trim.
I might be wrong but I suspect the original manufacturer doesn’t make any of the bits you can buy for a 61 year old Mini.