RE: BMW Z8 | Cars under the hammer
RE: BMW Z8 | Cars under the hammer
Thursday 15th August 2024

BMW Z8 | Cars under the hammer

Easily the best BMW Bond car, and arguably the prettiest car to come out of Munich this side of the millennium


The '00s were full of reboots. Mercedes brought the Gullwing back with the SLS AMG, Ford revived the GT40 with more inches and fewer characters, and BMW relaunched the Mini as a not-so-mini hatchback. None were short on controversy, but because they all paid homage to some of the greatest cars in history their respective makers never had trouble shifting them.

That’s partly why people struggled to wrap their heads around the BMW Z8 when it arrived. Reboots weren’t really a thing in the late '90s and the car the Z8 referenced, the 507, was relatively unknown as it’d been built for the US market 40-odd years prior and sold abysmally. Not exactly a solid foundation for a sales hit. But BMW styling chief Chris Bangle pressed on, putting Henrik Fisker on the case to come up with an exterior design for the firm’s new flagship roadster with the beautiful-yet-long-forgotten 507 as his muse.

While it may not have made much sense, the design Fisker came up with was truly spectacular. The horizontal kidney grilles, those elegant wing vents and the minimal rear are all references to the 507, as is the upright windscreen and an abundance of chrome. It looked entirely different to every other car in BMW’s lineup at the time, just as the 507 was in the late '50s, with every visible service bespoke to the Z8. The same goes for the Scott Lempert-styled interior, which featured a unique steering wheel with retro wire spokes, a body colour dashboard with centrally mounted dials and switchgear that couldn’t be found on any other model. Reputedly, the only interior part shared with other BMWs was the CD changer. 

Just as unique was the aluminium spaceframe chassis, with MacPherson suspension struts and lower wishbones up front and a multi-link axle at the rear. The brakes were carried over from the 750i, while the 400hp, 4.9-litre V8 was lifted straight from the E39 M5 as it was the most powerful engine available to BMW at the time. All came with six-speed manual gearboxes, though a later Alpina version swapped it for a five-speed auto and ditched the V8 for the less powerful M62 motor. The car we have here may be running on Alpina wheels, but it’s a proper S62-engined Z8. Lovely.

Despite selling in reasonably high numbers, with almost half of the 5,703 total produced ending up in America, the Z8 struggled to win reviewers over here in the UK. Some found the ride too firm, probably owing to the run-flat tyres that didn’t work all that well with the suspension setup. The non-run flat Continentals on the car we have here suggest there’s some merit to the theory, as this Z8 glided over rough surfaces. It’s a grand tourer at the end of the day, one that thrives when driven at seven-tenths. Besides, you’ll often find yourself hanging back and dropping down a few gears just to hear that S62 V8 being pumped through the Supersprint exhaust. 

There’s no doubt the initial reviews, along with the left-hand drive only layout, put buyers off when the Z8 was new, with fewer than 150 coming to the UK. Of those, it’s believed fewer than 50 are registered on the road today, making the Z8 a rare find. Having spent a day with this car, it’s clear a great deal of care and attention has been put into it. The interior is as immaculate as the images suggest, while the original wheels - along with the ‘BM Z8 507’ plate - are included in the sale. Bond fan or not, it’s hard to not fall in love with the Z8 after five minutes of driving. But if you need a bit more convincing, take a look at the video we’ve put together and remember to turn the volume up…


See the original advert here

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Mannginger

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10,263 posts

286 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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An old flat mate's dad had one new back in the early 2000s, I was so jealous, it looked so much more interesting than the Z3 and back then (and I guess even more so now) was an incredibly rare thing to see on the roads

2 GKC

2,307 posts

134 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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Surely released prior to 2000?

fantheman80

2,606 posts

78 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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“Easily the best BMW Bond car“ - Not a particularly high bar! This was in it for 2 secs before being chopped in half if memory serves correct. I will take the 750 being ragged around Brent Cross car park steered with an Ericcson smile

RaineyDays

267 posts

129 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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fantheman80 said:
“Easily the best BMW Bond car“ - Not a particularly high bar! This was in it for 2 secs before being chopped in half if memory serves correct. I will take the 750 being ragged around Brent Cross car park steered with an Ericcson smile
Yep, how this can be considered a ‘Bond car’ is laughable.

The Z3 got slightly more exposure and was actually driven in the film and I wouldn’t class that as a ‘Bond Car’

Beautiful car though, such a shame BMW didn’t make a RHD version as they would have been quite popular over here given our love for 2 seater sports cars

CRA1G

7,243 posts

224 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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They were to expensive.... Many dealers couldn't get shut of them and deals were to be had... I had a 2003 Z8 in Topaz Blue. Run it for about a year but just wasn't practical as a daily,LHD,Manual. Should have kept it but actually sold for a small profit but nowhere near what they seem to sell for today,but rarity doesn't necessarily make it a excellent car either...! can't believe it was 20 years ago.....

Edited by CRA1G on Thursday 15th August 07:47

Black S2K

1,900 posts

278 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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They are rather lovely-looking things.

cerb4.5lee

44,558 posts

209 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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I know these are supposed to drive terribly, however I've always wanted one so badly though. I've always liked the V8 engine and 3 pedal manual combo with them as well.

I'd be very happy cruising around in this for sure.

C5_Steve

8,874 posts

132 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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RaineyDays said:
fantheman80 said:
“Easily the best BMW Bond car“ - Not a particularly high bar! This was in it for 2 secs before being chopped in half if memory serves correct. I will take the 750 being ragged around Brent Cross car park steered with an Ericcson smile
Yep, how this can be considered a ‘Bond car’ is laughable.

The Z3 got slightly more exposure and was actually driven in the film and I wouldn’t class that as a ‘Bond Car’

Beautiful car though, such a shame BMW didn’t make a RHD version as they would have been quite popular over here given our love for 2 seater sports cars
Barely, I think the only moving shot of the Z3 from memory was down the runway for 3 seconds! Still, more than the Z8 which just trundled forward a bit but at least with the Z8 you saw the gadgets. 750 all day for me as well (never knew it was filmed in Brent Cross, thanks for that!).

I've only ever seen one of these on the road very briefly however I think the design has gotten even better with age. Never liked the Alpina wheels though so those would have to go but aside from that it's gorgeous. I don't think any of them really got driven much did they? Shame.

GreatScott2016

2,510 posts

117 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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Personally, I find these an odd looking thing. Happy to be in the minority, but on a sunny day coupled with that engine, I can understand the appeal for some smile

Snubs

1,423 posts

168 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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GreatScott2016 said:
Personally, I find these an odd looking thing. Happy to be in the minority, but on a sunny day coupled with that engine, I can understand the appeal for some smile
I'm not a huge fan either. Copying the front end of the 508 is on the long list of retro-inspired designs that just doesn't quite work for me. See also the front of the Ferrari F430, for example.

ghost83

5,637 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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Had a sit in one of these in Ontario back in 2002,

Lovely thing it was

Lord_Howit_Hertz

1,972 posts

246 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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I'm sure there was a PH'er who had one of these (Plus an Alfa 8C) who researched and developed the perfect set up for both cars.

He said it was awful to begin with, but took few years and trials and then turned it into the perfect car for the engine. Although he also had an original Muira too.

Dazzled

308 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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750 all day for me as well (never knew it was filmed in Brent Cross,

I thought it was a 740? The chase was filmed in the Brent Cross multi storey with the car launching off the roof and ending up in a car hire office in Munich.
From memory it was filmed over a couple of weeks with the car park open to the public at the weekend. They had a fenced off compound on one floor. I counted 12 7 series BMWs in various states of disrepair some with no doors, no roof and big holes in the windscreen where the missile hits the car in the film.
The tyre marks on the car park floor were clearly visible for years afterwards.
Of special interest to Pistonheaders was the camera car - a TVR wedge with the back end modified to include a flat platform for the movie camera.

Rumblestripe

4,062 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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The years have been kind to the styling. As I will never own (or even drive) one I don't care how it drives. It does look stunningly beautiful though and if you were to sit it among the current excrescences from BMW you have to wonder what they have been doing/smoking these last two decades.

cerb4.5lee

44,558 posts

209 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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ghost83 said:
Had a sit in one of these in Ontario back in 2002,

Lovely thing it was
I've always liked the interior in them too, just so different to a lot of other stuff at the time I thought.

HTP99

25,185 posts

169 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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Always loved the look of these, however they just don't look as expensive as they were when new and even less so now with the higher prices they now command.

Earthdweller

19,334 posts

155 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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Definaltely a place in my dream garage for one

Back in the early 00's I was working in North London not far from Hexagon in Highgate, they had about half a dozen in the back of the showroom for ages that they struggled to sell, they were about £40k iirc which sadly was too chunky for me back then

Lovely things .. saw a few in the Alps a couple of years back .. appropriatly on "James Bond Strasse"






Mark-C

7,617 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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These are lovely to look at and don't drive that badly if you're cruising well made roads on the French Riviera.

However the best Bond car is clearly the Renault 11 from View to a Kill ...


DaveCWK

2,401 posts

203 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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My favourite aspect of these is the interior design.

CRA1G

7,243 posts

224 months

Thursday 15th August 2024
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DaveCWK said:
My favourite aspect of these is the interior design.
Very retro indeed but also clever in that they had factory Sat Nav hidden away behind the bottom cover in front of the gearbox. Mine had the Hard Top aswell which I think looked better on than the Soft Top.