RE: Fiat finally calls time on Abarth 595
RE: Fiat finally calls time on Abarth 595
Wednesday 21st August 2024

Fiat finally calls time on Abarth 595

Old 500 retired too as Fiat gears up for new 500 Ibrida


What excitement there was around the Fiat 500 at launch in 2007. A super stylish remake of an iconic small car, it was a smash hit from the word go. Same story for the Abarth that followed a year later: lower, louder and just a little bit lairy, the turbocharged 500 was a real hoot. After half a dozen years, the Mini wasn’t the only retro-themed, endlessly customisable city car option out there. 

And now, 17 years after that introduction, the Fiat 500 has finally been withdrawn from sale. There will be enough stock to see through any lingering demand that exists for the rest of the year, but no more orders. The only models left on sale were the 500 Hybrid, plus the Abarth 595 and 695. The long-running Fiat will be replaced next year by the new 500 Ibrida (which takes the 500e and equips it with the current hybrid powertrain), with Abarth’s future, for now at least, set to be electric. The 500e is built at Mirafiori, as the Ibrida will be. 

So the least we could do, given such momentous news, was see what a buyer keen on a 500 or a 595 (or whatever else the Abarths have been called over the years) might be able to get in 2024. Certainly they won’t want for choice. Search ‘Abarth 595’ in the classifieds and there are more than 200 results; the standard 500s total almost two thousand. Indeed it’s quite hard to imagine what Fiat would have done without the 500 since 2007. The earliest cars are now down at Shed money (some look better than others), although a few have survived nicely: this smart 2008 example has covered just 55,000 with a pair of owners. A cheap private plate and nobody would know it’s almost as old as an iPhone. There are deals around on new ones, too; Fiat’s website says a new mild-hybrid is from £16,800, but this 24-plated car is almost £3,000 less than that.

The Abarth is what PH has always been most interested in, of course. No Sunday Service would be complete without something 500-shaped angrily parping along like a shrunken speedboat. Those willing to accept a few miles can get a 140hp Abarth for a little more than £3k (with a clutch 5,000 miles ago), which feels like quite a lot of fun for the money. Up the budget to £5k and there are some really nice ones around, including low mileage examples in the trademark Abarth colour scheme and those loaded to the gunwales with pano roofs and stereo upgrades. 500C Convertibles are from about £6k, for those after some open-top entertainment. 

That’s just the start, however; the Abarth 500/595/695 became (in)famous over the years for ever more powerful, ever more expensive, ever more numerous special editions. The Biposto Rosso Officina was the ultimate, with just 99 made and originally used as Ferrari courtesy cars before the decision was made to sell them. This one is number 11, one of very few right-hand drive cars, and costs… £50k. The mechanically identical (and almost as rare) two-seat 695 Biposto will still cost more than £30,000. Highly prized little cars. 

Nevertheless, there’ll be almost as much fun to be had in ordinary 695s and 595s. This 70th Anniversary Competizione looks great in Adrenaline Green with the carbon-backed seats and sat on Eibach springs; it’s for sale at £17k. There are RivalesYamaha EditionsF595 Pistas, even one of the EsseEsse 500s used in the Silverstone Celebrity Challenge. Suffice it to say those who want any stripe of 500 are spoilt for choice. Fiat will do well to achieve the same level of popularity the second time around. 


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BigChiefmuffinAgain

Original Poster:

1,593 posts

122 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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A car which tells you everything that is/was right and wrong with the way Fiat has been run the last 15 years.

Brilliant car when launched but rather than try to build on its success, Fiat just milked it by launching some duff model extensions ( 500L ! ), poorly developed models ( 124, Tipo etc ) and endless "specials" which just left the company nowhere so that it was eventually taken over by Stellantis.

Might as well rename it to the 500 company, as expect that's all they'll be making going forward ( and maybe the odd Panda ).

Hopeless management. Very sad....

supacool1

731 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Didn't they sell the chassis to Ford for the Ka as well...?

GeniusOfLove

4,818 posts

36 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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These Abarths mystify me, I've never found my experience of a car to be so utterly and diametrically opposed to what appears to be the consensus view.

I found the basic 500 to be a shoddy, very cheap, very flimsy, very unpleasant to drive thing with weird floppy controls that feel like you're driving a knackered old Outrun cabinet. The first one I drove I assumed was broken, despite being very new, but every one I drove also felt like it was knackered and broken no matter how old or new it was; they all feel like they've done 180,000 miles before leaving the factory.

I found the Abarth models to be the same but with a stupid unpleasant flatulent sound accompanying me everywhere and the already crap ride pushed to the point of absurdity. I love driving little cars and the silly way they feel as you throw them about but the chassis on the 500 was just crap, fine for a comedy £1,500 shed but people were paying a lot of money for what seemed a very poor car to me and I can't see why anyone bought them over some sort of Mini, with it vastly more sophisticated engineering,

It's not just reviewers (easily ignored as always) who like the Abarth models though the owners seem to utterly adore them so I concede that I must be missing something.

ETA - only car model where I've actually had a door handle come off in my hand, despite owning Leyland cars. Twice.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Wednesday 21st August 12:44

tr7v8

7,553 posts

252 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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I have just bought a 595C and really enjoying it. Always lived FIATs and this is the second one in 49 years.

WPA

13,776 posts

138 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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supacool1 said:
Didn't they sell the chassis to Ford for the Ka as well...?
Correct, Ford KA mk2 and the Lancia Ypsilon were the same platform plus Panda mk2 and mk3

Squadrone Rosso

3,598 posts

171 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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I’ll be holding on to mine. Brilliant little hooligan of a car.

Road tripped around France & Italy in ours in May. 2450 miles in 11 days.

p4cks

7,350 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Fair play to them for managing to sell a car in such numbers with a 20+ year old Panda chassis

I had a first gen Esseesse and the suspension was absolutely unbearable - other than that I absolutely loved it!

limpsfield

6,586 posts

277 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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I had a 595 comp.

It felt like you were sitting on it rather than in it.

It didn’t go around corners very well.

As mentioned by someone else, the door handle also came off in my hand.

Loved it and would have another.

Justin-ow582

556 posts

129 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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GeniusOfLove said:
These Abarths mystify me, I've never found my experience of a car to be so utterly and diametrically opposed to what appears to be the consensus view.

I found the basic 500 to be a shoddy, very cheap, very flimsy, very unpleasant to drive thing with weird floppy controls that feel like you're driving a knackered old Outrun cabinet. The first one I drove I assumed was broken, despite being very new, but every one I drove also felt like it was knackered and broken no matter how old or new it was; they all feel like they've done 180,000 miles before leaving the factory.

I found the Abarth models to be the same but with a stupid unpleasant flatulent sound accompanying me everywhere and the already crap ride pushed to the point of absurdity. I love driving little cars and the silly way they feel as you throw them about but the chassis on the 500 was just crap, fine for a comedy £1,500 shed but people were paying a lot of money for what seemed a very poor car to me and I can't see why anyone bought them over some sort of Mini, with it vastly more sophisticated engineering,

It's not just reviewers (easily ignored as always) who like the Abarth models though the owners seem to utterly adore them so I concede that I must be missing something.

ETA - only car model where I've actually had a door handle come off in my hand, despite owning Leyland cars. Twice.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Wednesday 21st August 12:44
I share your viewpoint.

Last year I'd narrowed down my choice of next car to a 595 or an MX-5 RF.

I found a local garage with a low mileage 595 EsseEsse in it, black with white Abarth livery and matchig white wheels, it looked great and being an EsseEsse had the upgraded shocks, brakes and exhaust, bettered only by a 695 Biposto. Money in the bank ready to spend, just the formality of a test drive for confirmation bias as much as anything else.

I couldn't have been more disappointed. I was already prepared for the upright "Italian" driving position having previously owned several Integrales. I was ready for the lag of a small engine with a turbo, ready for torque steer out of corners at full boost. All would just add to the cheeky nature of the car.

In reality it really wasn't a fun car to drive. Carbon seats aside, it was clearly a very cheaply manufactured car. Fewer than 10k miles and it already felt and sounded loose with numerous rattles in the cabin. Other than the looks, the only thing I liked about it was the sound (for a 4 pot).

I contrast, the MX-5 was the polar opposite. Bland sounding when under 4000rpm but the feel, responsiveness, roadholding, driving position, balance and over all build quality was head and shoulders above the EsseEsse.

Mr Peel

618 posts

146 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Had a small Fiat in the family for 20 years but somehow never got round to one of these. Quicker than a Panda 100HP for sure, but would it be as much fun?

Portofino

5,176 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Love mine, it’s a little hooligan of a car. The perfect antidote to sensible cars and life.

Twoshoe

978 posts

208 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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tr7v8 said:
I have just bought a 595C and really enjoying it. Always lived FIATs and this is the second one in 49 years.
If you've always loved (I assume you meant 'loved') FIATs, how come you've only owned two in 49 years?

Jon_S_Rally

4,335 posts

112 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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I nearly bought a 695c quite recently (it's the only model available here), but I just couldn't get over the price. Cars are quite expensive where I am, but it was going to be about 500 quid a month, which just seemed bonkers for what it was. I still have a soft spot for them though, and the grey one pictured with the article looks fantastic. Would love to try one at some point.

fantheman80

2,415 posts

73 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Twoshoe said:
tr7v8 said:
I have just bought a 595C and really enjoying it. Always lived FIATs and this is the second one in 49 years.
If you've always loved (I assume you meant 'loved') FIATs, how come you've only owned two in 49 years?
I've always loved Charlize Theron, not had many dates though (you can still admire something as a brand and not have lots)

Crudeoink

1,279 posts

83 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Mrs CO used to have a 595 Comp and it was beyond dreadful. Thankfully reliable in the time we owned it but that was about the only positive. Poor ride, diesel-like power delivery, naff seating position and a nightmare to work on. It surprises me they managed to keep selling pretty much the same car for about 15 years with only minor changes.

SpadeBrigade

816 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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The Abarth was massively flawed but hugely lovable, relatively affordable (especially at release in 2008/9 for £13,500) had a rare and interesting badge with pedigree, felt more exotic than any car its price tag should do.

I absolutely love them, so much so I bought a new one in 2010 and then again in 2016 when the 180hp cars came out.

Although the chassis was already aging by the mid 2010’s and its compromises were becoming harder to justify I am a bit saddened by this.

Most new ‘interesting’ cars these days are very expensive. Does anyone make a hot hatch that’s ‘affordable’? When the Abarth 500 came out it was of a similar vein to say the Saxo or 106 GTI, they were genuinely attainable, cheap to run and fun. I don’t think anything like that exists anymore?

Fiat can’t keep Abarth an EV brand only surely? The EV variant has been a disaster for them from what I can tell from a sales perspective. Surely they can give us a ICE Abarth on the new platform? Please Fiat…


bangerhoarder

740 posts

92 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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Bought an old, high mileage, slightly tatty 75bhp 1.3 diesel one last year. Achingly slow, but I enjoy punting it along twisty roads as it corners really well and will hold the speed once it has eventually acquired it.

Not particularly rattly. The ride is bouncy like an old Mini. Some bits fell off but easy to fix.

I like it a lot.

James P

3,031 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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WPA said:
supacool1 said:
Didn't they sell the chassis to Ford for the Ka as well...?
Correct, Ford KA mk2 and the Lancia Ypsilon were the same platform plus Panda mk2 and mk3
Wasn’t the 2nd gen Panda introduced in 2003? Makes the platform even older

Otispunkmeyer

13,602 posts

179 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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GeniusOfLove said:
These Abarths mystify me, I've never found my experience of a car to be so utterly and diametrically opposed to what appears to be the consensus view.

I found the basic 500 to be a shoddy, very cheap, very flimsy, very unpleasant to drive thing with weird floppy controls that feel like you're driving a knackered old Outrun cabinet. The first one I drove I assumed was broken, despite being very new, but every one I drove also felt like it was knackered and broken no matter how old or new it was; they all feel like they've done 180,000 miles before leaving the factory.

I found the Abarth models to be the same but with a stupid unpleasant flatulent sound accompanying me everywhere and the already crap ride pushed to the point of absurdity. I love driving little cars and the silly way they feel as you throw them about but the chassis on the 500 was just crap, fine for a comedy £1,500 shed but people were paying a lot of money for what seemed a very poor car to me and I can't see why anyone bought them over some sort of Mini, with it vastly more sophisticated engineering,

It's not just reviewers (easily ignored as always) who like the Abarth models though the owners seem to utterly adore them so I concede that I must be missing something.

ETA - only car model where I've actually had a door handle come off in my hand, despite owning Leyland cars. Twice.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Wednesday 21st August 12:44
I think its one of them cars that is kinda greater than the sum of its parts and if it works for you then its a fun time.

I like the way the Abarth 595 looks, I like the way it sounds and goes etc. But yeah the ride on anything but glass smooth roads is appalling. You need to doing some serious speed on bad roads so that you "skip" over the bumps rather than swan dive into them. And when I had mine, I found 20-30 minutes was all I could really bear sat behind the wheel. It was that uncomfortable. The steering wheel has no reach adjustment, only rake. And even the rake adjustment feels like you can only choose between "van" style angles. You could set the seat to give a comfortable arm reach but have your legs folded up round your neck, or you could set the seat for more comfortable leg position and have to round your shoulders heavily to reach the wheel. I guess if you had the legs of a chimp, you'd be fine.

Having said all that. I am itching to get a fun "weekend" car for me and my little girl to enjoy (now she's getting big enough to sit in the front) and one of these is on the list. Even though I know the severely uncomfortable pitfalls first hand. I still look at them. There is a lovely 695 CC Rivale for sale near me. Automatic as well which might ease the legs somewhat. For some reason its sorely tempting.

WPA

13,776 posts

138 months

Wednesday 21st August 2024
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James P said:
WPA said:
supacool1 said:
Didn't they sell the chassis to Ford for the Ka as well...?
Correct, Ford KA mk2 and the Lancia Ypsilon were the same platform plus Panda mk2 and mk3
Wasn’t the 2nd gen Panda introduced in 2003? Makes the platform even older
Yep, from what I can find out the basic platform was launched in 1999 for the Fiat Ecobasic concept then the Panda mk2 in 2003.