RE: Good-as-new Ferrari F430 manual for sale
RE: Good-as-new Ferrari F430 manual for sale
Thursday 22nd August 2024

Good-as-new Ferrari F430 manual for sale

490hp, 8,500rpm, six speeds, three pedals - and fewer than six hundred miles old...


Likely nobody needs reminding of the current trend for bringing back the manual gearbox. Aston Martin sold out its million-pound, six-speed Valour in hours, the Handschalter Z4 is the best BMW roadster in yonks, the S/T is perhaps the greatest Porsche 911 in just as long. Pagani clients want manuals, so that’s exactly what they’re getting. Everybody wins: a few dedicated customers get the manual cars they crave, while the manufacturers can charge a premium on the grounds of engagement and interaction. It seems likely to continue for a while yet.  

Will Ferrari resurrect the manual gearbox? It seems extremely unlikely. The cars are now so fast, so capable, so technologically advanced that a manual wouldn’t necessarily play to its strengths. Maranello was a relatively early adopter of the dual-clutch-only lineup, and its gearboxes have always been a class apart. Plus with a new factory gearing up for further electrification, it’s clearly looking to future tech rather than old methods - even with current trends among the rich.

Nevertheless, there really is little as evocative as an open-gated Ferrari manual, which is why the old ones continue to command a premium. Back when the (not very good) automated transmissions were the new, exciting tech, only around 10 per cent of customers took the manual. Now they’re the cars to have, as the clunky old ‘boxes haven’t aged well and the standard six-speed remains a great reminder of the old days. 

The F430 was the last mid-engined V8 with a choice of transmissions. As with the rest of the range back then, F1s massively outnumber manuals; on PH right now there are 50 examples for sale and just five with a clutch pedal, tallying perfectly with those sales figures from the early 21st century. It’s easy to understand why a manual car might appeal nowadays, with the right amount of power (nearly 500hp) to be properly exciting without being too much for DIY gears. Where an F1-equipped F430 Coupe can be bought from £65k, you’ll need £80k for a manual car. And that’ll be a Spider with twice the miles. 

So the premium is undeniable - and justified by all accounts. But there are manual Ferrari F430s out there, then there are manual Ferrari F430s. Because here’s a 2006 car, in Rosso Corsa over Crema, with just 598 miles on it. This isn’t some crustry barn find, either, one abandoned after the first month of driving; there are 17 stamps in the service book, and old MOT records as well. This has been used, albeit very sparingly, and kept in good order. Look at the fuel cap! Averaging 33 miles a year, it may never have been into sixth gear…

For Ferrari enthusiasts, manual fans and classic car collectors, it looks like one heck of an opportunity. And would explain the POA - it’s probably up around Scuderia money. These end-of-an-era 430s are hard enough to find in any state, let alone as close to brand new as it’s now possible to get. Probably it’ll head somewhere air-conditioned and humidity controlled, brought out for the occasional concours. But let’s hope it does get a run out every now and again, because there really is no experience to rival a nat-asp Ferrari V8 paired to a manual gearbox. Get that left leg warmed up immediately. 


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whp1983

Original Poster:

1,373 posts

168 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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Beautiful always like this shape…. Staggers me when folks don’t use cars but each to their own.

I’d love to buy this then rack up the miles with pure disregard to values

Darnoc95

516 posts

59 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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Amazing to see one as box fresh as this. However what an absolute travesty that it hasn't been enjoyed more.

Gericho

608 posts

32 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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How could anyone resist not taking this car out a few times a year. Even if it was 500-1000 miles a year would have better than just letting it sit around.

bigyoungdave

330 posts

56 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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V nice. Engine might not be happy with such a low mileage though. I'd take the XKR 75 a couple of articles down and enjoy driving it without worrying about the miles

av185

20,464 posts

156 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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Just 33 miles a year presumably to the Ferrari dealers just to be serviced.

Wow.

Could have trailored it.

el romeral

2,155 posts

166 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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They are so gorgeous to look at, maybe the previous owners just could not face the thought of it getting dirty. Strange to spec it with manual gearbox and still not use it though!

Wab1974uk

1,393 posts

56 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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Imagine buying a car and then tucking it away for 18 years, in the hope of making money?

Buy it, drive it, enjoy it.

cerb4.5lee

44,556 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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My left knee plays me up a bit to be fair...probably because I still insist on having 3 pedal manual performance cars in my garage...when almost everyone else has moved onto 2 pedal performance cars in comparison though. So this is absolutely up my street for sure.

Lots to love here I reckon, although I think that I would've personally used it a bit more if it was mine though. However at least it will have made the current owner a few quid when it sells it, and that can't be a bad thing I'd imagine.

murphyaj

1,565 posts

104 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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As a former owner of an F430 there is no way i would have had the self control not to drive it at every opportunity.

This was clearly bought as an investment then never driven to preserve its value. After keeping this car for 17 years, spending thousands getting it serviced, and then never enjoying the pleasure of taking it's glorious V8 to the readline, whoever is selling it might easily get well over £150000 now.

These cars were £117000 when new, plus options, plus 17 years of servicing. If the original owner had taken that money and invested it in the S&P 500 they'd now have well over half a million quid. So this person has robbed themselves of the joy of driving one of the worlds great supercars so they can ..... lose over three hundred grand.

Which is the best argument I can think of for people to buy cars and just bloody drive them.

WPA

14,671 posts

143 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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Complete waste not driving and enjoying it.

CKY

2,268 posts

44 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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murphyaj said:
As a former owner of an F430 there is no way i would have had the self control not to drive it at every opportunity.

This was clearly bought as an investment then never driven to preserve its value. After keeping this car for 17 years, spending thousands getting it serviced, and then never enjoying the pleasure of taking it's glorious V8 to the readline, whoever is selling it might easily get well over £150000 now.

These cars were £117000 when new, plus options, plus 17 years of servicing. If the original owner had taken that money and invested it in the S&P 500 they'd now have well over half a million quid. So this person has robbed themselves of the joy of driving one of the worlds great supercars so they can ..... lose over three hundred grand.

Which is the best argument I can think of for people to buy cars and just bloody drive them.
Good point well made, however given the specification and condition of this car, i'd be surprised if the POA isn't higher than £150k - the car itself is likely unrepeatable (especially considering it's RHD/UK market). I wouldn't expect this to sell immediately, however for £200k I wouldn't be surprised if it found a home with some Ferrari 'collector' where it sits for another 5/10/20+ years festering away. Utter shame.

wolfie28

1,142 posts

173 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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As others have said - less than 34 miles a year!! Hang your head in shame.

ManyMotors

1,100 posts

127 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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If you live near a Ferrari dealer, this would be a great investment to enjoy. Don't do that with a budget.

PRO5T

7,580 posts

54 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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Re with cream interior vomit then park it next to a 360 and see just how badly Frank Stephenson butchered it.

No thanks.


NGK210

4,975 posts

174 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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How much for a recommissioning overhaul?

Guessing all the coils, hoses, bushes, plus gaskets / seals for any oily bits, would need replacing, and the V8’s innards should have a thorough scan with a borescope?

Hopefully, its fFsh included replacing the engine coolant and power-steering fluid.

Oh, and what’s the liquid on the ground - see pic below - aft of the tail pipes? Shurley it’s not water vapour from the exhausts because someone was revving the nuts off it when the engine was cold?


ferret50

2,871 posts

38 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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Wonder if the tyres are the originals?

bennno

15,240 posts

298 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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murphyaj said:
As a former owner of an F430 there is no way i would have had the self control not to drive it at every opportunity.

This was clearly bought as an investment then never driven to preserve its value. After keeping this car for 17 years, spending thousands getting it serviced, and then never enjoying the pleasure of taking it's glorious V8 to the readline, whoever is selling it might easily get well over £150000 now.

These cars were £117000 when new, plus options, plus 17 years of servicing. If the original owner had taken that money and invested it in the S&P 500 they'd now have well over half a million quid. So this person has robbed themselves of the joy of driving one of the worlds great supercars so they can ..... lose over three hundred grand.

Which is the best argument I can think of for people to buy cars and just bloody drive them.
Especially if you factor in what it is worth, versus what it'd still be worth with say 35k miles on the clock and divide that by 17 years.....

Wdc_22

47 posts

91 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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The best looking Ferrari to my eyes. Wouldn’t have it in red myself though!

GreatScott2016

2,510 posts

117 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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I don't generally like Ferraris, and this one is no exception, particularly in the looks department, but it's still a crying shame nonetheless to see such low miles frown

Wheel Turned Out

2,368 posts

67 months

Thursday 22nd August 2024
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cerb4.5lee said:
My left knee plays me up a bit to be fair...probably because I still insist on having 3 pedal manual performance cars in my garage...when almost everyone else has moved onto 2 pedal performance cars in comparison though. So this is absolutely up my street for sure.

Lots to love here I reckon, although I think that I would've personally used it a bit more if it was mine though. However at least it will have made the current owner a few quid when it sells it, and that can't be a bad thing I'd imagine.
I know other people can do what they please and all that...but vehicles like this getting hoovered up and mothballed for the sake supposed financial appreciation is definitely a bad thing to me. A very bad thing. I'm also not entirely convinced the owner will even profit that much to make this sort of thing 'worth it'.