RE: Been waiting for a seven-seat electric Camper?
RE: Been waiting for a seven-seat electric Camper?
Wednesday 4th September 2024

Been waiting for a seven-seat electric Camper?

Good news: the LWB VW ID Buzz is available to order now. You can even have a 340hp GTX - assuming you've got £65k


Fans of the ID Buzz will likely recall the launch of the GTX version - a model that VW confirmed would get 340hp and four-wheel drive, but without saying how far it would go between charges or how much it would cost. Well, now we know both: the dual-motor version will deliver a WLTP-rated range of 262 miles and it is priced from £67,435. If that sounds like a cheek-sucking amount for a warmed-up Bulli (and it is), it’s probably worth pointing out that no variant of the all-electric Buzz is exactly cheap - in fact, the one we tested in January last year was £65,465, once the option list had been totted up. They start at £59,035. 

Anecdotally, this hasn’t prevented Volkswagen from shifting them; we say that because there seem to be a fair few around and there was feverish talk of people initially paying over the odds to skip the queue. Whether or not the GTX’s value-added ingredients actually augment the current level of demand is debatable (it gets to 62mph quicker and is significantly better at towing) but its 79kWh battery means that its range is comparable with the existing lineup, and it’s easy to appreciate all-wheel drive usability if you’re intending on using it for ‘outdoor pursuits’. Which, in fairness, is very much part of the Camper heritage. 

Of course, it’s perfectly possible that a potential ID Buzz customer might be a whole lot more interested in the ‘super-practical’ 7-seat model that is also now available to order. Two reasons: one, it’s built on a longer wheelbase version of the same platform, which means as well as providing seating for seven (it gets a removable third row) there’s also a larger luggage compartment - both of which the standard Buzz is arguably crying out for. And two, its larger physical size means VW has been able to fit a bigger, faster-charging 86kWh battery, which means a WLTP range of 291 miles. In entry-level ‘Life’ trim, this costs from £59,545. 

And if you’re thinking, ‘well, I like the sound of that, but I don’t think 286hp is sufficient to haul half a tonne of family around’, then you’ll be delighted to hear that you can have the longer, seven-seater as a GTX too - assuming you’re also happy with the £67,945 asking price. For reasons we don’t quite understand, VW suggests that this version gets the biggest range of the lot (295 miles), even if you do sacrifice a bit of towing capacity compared to the standard GTX (1,600kg versus 1,800kg). Either way, the order books are open now ahead of first deliveries in the autumn. Alternatively, if you don’t care about additional seats or power, you can have a very nearly new ID Buzz for £56,980


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Water Fairy

Original Poster:

6,591 posts

184 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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From the pics I see no camper?

As for the price, for perspective we sold our 13 year old diesel T5 camper a couple of years ago with 80k on the clock for 30k.

Is 65k that much for a brand spanker?

Familymad

2,311 posts

246 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Doesn’t look camper to me either.

nismo48

7,017 posts

236 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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It looks a bit 'Camp'

LJF_97

360 posts

61 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Thats not a camper, it's an MPV with folding seats.

AyBee

11,321 posts

231 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Poptop? No. Mattress? No. Ability to cook? No. What's "camper" about it?

daqinggregg

5,335 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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RE: Been waiting for a seven-seat electric Camper?

No, next question.

Been waiting for an electric Camper?

Yes.





That's not an EV camper, it's an EV MPV.

This is a EV Camper.


Kipsrs

707 posts

78 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Am I too missing something “seven seat camper” I can’t see a camper just a van with seven seats. . confused

languagetimothy

1,779 posts

191 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Familymad said:
Doesn’t look camper to me either.
Not camper than a row of tents no. I suppose you could throw a mattress in the back and buy camping gaz thing but you would still have to be like the Pope come dump time, 65k tho! Think I’d prefer cheaper reliable car and hotels.


Frankychops

2,041 posts

38 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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vw can't sell the normal ones, they're loaded up with them and offering massive discounts.

Craikeybaby

12,101 posts

254 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Still looks too small to carry 4 people and their mountain bikes inside the van - which is what I mainly use my T5.1 for. Which is a shame, as I really like these.

bigmowley

2,658 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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There is something a bit odd going on with VW pricing on these. Here is a new, longer wheelbase, more powerful, bigger battery model and its list price is within a few quid of the existing short wheelbase model. In fact the list price has not really moved much since launch and yet the spec continues to creep up. Tacit acknowledgement from VW that they overpriced it initially?
I don’t get the vibe that they are selling well as there are some belting lease deals around on these at the moment.


andyj007

459 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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love the look of these , if it had a petrol or diesel engine one would be sitting on my drive right now .. epic fsil vw

sidesauce

2,967 posts

247 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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daqinggregg said:
This is a EV Camper.

I've been following Canoo for a little while - very interesting company quietly getting on with some very versatile tech. The future of transportation is evolving in a way that even five years ago I couldn't imagine seeing. So many new players in the game and so many clever ideas; the legacy boys really are going to have their work cut out to keep up with some of these new outfits.

Zed Ed

1,163 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Some material improvements over gen 1 cars, notably options on interior trim, seating, range, performance, 4 motion and importantly rear seat ventilation.

Tempting

riskyj

607 posts

109 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Are these much smaller than the outgoing Caravelle? Looking at the seat arrangement, two in the back and a 60/40 split middle row.

Also, whilst I appreciate it has all the aerodynamic properties of a brick, 295 WLTP is pretty poor by todays standards given the side of battery you’d think they would be able to fit in this thing.

Edited by riskyj on Wednesday 4th September 19:56

josh00mac

435 posts

137 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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They wouldn’t be able to build these quick enough if they had a good PHEV setup. The point of camping is driving far away from home to an isolated point. Where there are no chargers. I’m not anti electric - can’t wait to get one for the right needs - but this isn’t sensible.

PistonTim

723 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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James6112 said:
Craikeybaby said:
Still looks too small to carry 4 people and their mountain bikes inside the van - which is what I mainly use my T5.1 for. Which is a shame, as I really like these.
Well that’s relevant rofl
Surely it's 100% relevant - thats arguably the point of the Buzz especially the bigger one!

paul13

780 posts

231 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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andyj007 said:
love the look of these , if it had a petrol or diesel engine one would be sitting on my drive right now .. epic fsil vw
Great response smile

Retro.74

322 posts

52 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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Was quite interested in the article on seeing the headline, as I'd seen the std Buzz with camper conversion which looked very cramped, so would have been interesting to see one in a lwb version. Alas, no camper!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 4th September 2024
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It's a 1995 Renault Espace. Well done VW, you've invented a time machine.