RE: 2024 Ferrari 12Cilindri | PH Review

RE: 2024 Ferrari 12Cilindri | PH Review

Wednesday 2nd October 2024

2024 Ferrari 12Cilindri | PH Review

The 812 Superfast gets even faster still - but is it better?


When it comes to an objective review, the Ferrari 12Cilindri poses a two-fold problem. The first is that it’s an 830hp, V12 Ferrari; as time is inevitably called on cars like these (or so it would seem), it’s easy to look even more favourably on them. All the way back to the return of this type of Ferrari almost 30 years ago with the 550 Maranello, they’ve all been pretty special. Which leads us to issue number two: the 12Cilindri’s predecessor, the 812 Superfast, is probably this writer’s favourite new car of the past decade. Its combination of feral V12 energy and chassis immediacy didn’t make for the best GT, but heck was it thrilling. If the 12Cilindri can retain that effervescence while introducing just a bit more civility, it’ll be a spectacular Ferrari. 

Even its most ardent fans might have conceded that the 812 had some odd angles. It sometimes looked a bit like a Corvette, put simply, which was unfortunate. No such danger this time around. That Daytona-esque front end gives it an unmistakable Ferrari identity, and the rear end of the 12C (as some are calling it already) is nothing if not distinctive. You’ll know when you see one, that’s for certain, even if it’s not in Giallo Monte Carlo, this design is much more of a step on than was the change from F12 to 812. Arguably pictures haven’t really done this car justice yet, either, as in the metal this Ferrari is handsome and purposeful where it was perhaps a tad gawky to begin with. As an (imaginary) 812 owner for many years now, the mere sight of the 12C could prove very persuasive indeed. The combination of traditional Ferrari cues with modern flourishes is very attractive. 

The interior is less brilliant. While there are nice touches, like easy shortcuts to disabling the ADAS, a cool digital display and a still-lovely manettino, a lot of it feels quite fiddly. Having previously tried to cut the haptic wheel buttons a bit of slack in the Purosangue, it’s clear now that they just aren’t a solution; if they have to be disabled once not in use for 15 seconds, only to be woken up again when required, the design is flawed. Often you’ll revert to those mysterious buttons and toggles behind a Ferrari wheel to change station or track and adjust the volume, because the thumb controls take too much concentration. The new centre screen is fine, even if it's sited a bit low and with the features most likely to be switched between (phone, media, HVAC) on the furthest side of the display for this LHD car. Having the nose lift and the heated screens closest to the wheel seems odd. Sometimes the screen could seem a little unresponsive. Or maybe not - it's easy to get distracted in a 211mph+ Ferrari. 

Probably the trick is to get everything set just so before moving off, because you'll find it hard to tear yourself away from the truly sensational V12. Now more than ever it feels like an enormous privilege to be exposed to such a masterpiece of internal combustion. Hybrids are better than ever, of course, though they add weight and the artificiality that comes with knowing that the engine is being assisted while the battery is juiced. Here there’s something hugely gratifying about knowing that every march forward from low revs, canter through the mid range or furious romp to the limiter is achieved by nothing more than a dozen combustion chambers and a lot of super unleaded. 

The 6.5 is an even more spectacular engine than last time around. In 812 Competizione spec now, the V12 has gained some power (up 30hp) and lost a bit of torque (down 30lb ft), so don’t expect it to haul like a Revuelto or the upcoming Vanquish. But 500lb ft is plenty to mill about with, and if the trade off is a final few revs like this then it’s more than worth it. Perhaps not even the Lamborghini howls to 9,500rpm with such abandon, the appetite for revs more like a superbike v-twin than something as large and as grand as a V12. The sound is spellbinding, so much so that Ferrari put an embargo on any drive-by clips for those attending the press launch; hopefully you’ll agree that it was worth the wait, somehow both harder edged and more melodic than what came before.

Ferrari made the best DCTs in the world when the 812 Superfast was new, and it still does, meaning the eight-speed is another ever-so-slight improvement over what went before. Honestly, in Sport and Race with a lot of throttle in use, the upchanges wallop through like this is a sequential racing car, only to revert the next moment to unassuming and dutiful automatic fit for a Rolls-Royce. Seldom do powertrains possess such duality. This can be entirely agreeable company in automatic below 4,000rpm, pretty damn exciting from there until the first shift light at 7,000rpm or so, then little short of life affirming from there until the blue ones. Without checking the stats beforehand, it really did feel like the 12Cilindri was getting faster and faster and faster as the revs grew - they weren’t there just for show. Turns out 830hp is made at 9,250rpm, just 250rpm short of the limiter, or 1,000rpm higher than an F12berlinetta produced 740hp. All hail titanium rods and lighter alloy pistons. Mad V12 supercars aren’t done just yet. 

But perhaps the biggest change is in driving the Ferrari at more modest speeds. Compared to the 812, the 12C certainly feels less busy when not at full pelt. A bit less unwanted noise, a bit more feel, just an easier way to while away the boring miles before getting your fix at the next available opportunity. Ferrari being Ferrari, it has integrated a lot of technology seamlessly; you’d never tell that the rear-wheel steering now operates independently on each wheel, for example, it’s just a very accurate, very precise big V12. The intimidation that ought to come from almost twice the power of an AMG A45 through two rear tyres (not massive 315-sections, in fact) never materialises because you're more dialled into the car's handling. 

This still isn’t the most relaxing 12-cylinder car in the world, however, and that should be noted. Everything is better cushioned than before, the Bumpy Road setting smothering yet more rough edges, though this remains a fizzy, urgent kind of GT more than a mellow, unassuming one. It’ll tolerate cruising better than ever, though really it wants to be let loose; typically those priorities are the other way around for this class of car, and it’s what makes the 12C, as with the Superfast, so exhilarating. It looks like a continent crushing GT, but beneath the suave exterior beats the heart of a supercar. It’s just that the compromise is better struck now. 

A brief go on Goodyear’s test track in Luxembourg inevitably exposes the Ferrari a tad, a little reluctant in low-speed turns despite the best efforts of the clever steering. But that’s not really what this car is for. In high speed corners it’s epic, apparently never happier than balancing between grip and slip like an old racing car (which assists like Side Slip Control 8.0 are only too happy to encourage) with the backing vocals from the V12. The brakes are brilliant, too, with ABS Evo from the 296 helping confidence all the way through the travel. You’d never know it was by-wire. Following a 12Cilindri as the active aero flaps deploy really is a sight to behold. Assuming this passes the required noise tests (and there’s a straight long enough), extending as many gears as possible beyond 9,000rpm is (surprise, surprise) intoxicating. 

So it's pretty epic, then, the 12Cilindri, broadening the bandwidth of the 812 Superfast in useful fashion. There’s nothing comparable with the engine out front that can be so agile and so exciting, while feeling a little more agreeable than previously in everyday driving. It would be hard, iffy screen aside, to want for more from a new Ferrari V12. And yet...

Lamborghini has moved from flawed but fabulous Aventador to genuinely staggering Revuelto; the upcoming Vanquish has more than 100hp over a DBS. Perhaps, just perhaps, there is a lingering sense that the 12Cilindri doesn’t move things on as far from the 812 Superfast as those alternatives have (or look likely to). The advances of the Revuelto are clear from the first gearchange; it takes a little longer for the 12C’s improvements to become clear. The flipside of that, of course, is to suggest that the 812 was already somewhere near the pinnacle of front-engined 12-cylinder supercars; its replacement has smoothed off a few rough edges, further bolstered the tech arsenal and introduced a handsome new look into the mix. Which doesn’t sound like a bad way to refresh a truly great Ferrari. 


SPECIFICATION | 2024 FERRARI 12CILINDRI

Engine: 6,496cc, V12
Transmission: 8-speed dual-clutch auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 830@9,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 500@7,250rpm
0-62mph: 2.9sec
Top speed: 'over 211mph'
Weight: 1,560kg (dry, with lightweight options)
MPG: under homologation
CO2: under homologation
Price: from £336,500

 

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RSTurboPaul

Original Poster:

12,040 posts

273 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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That's, er, striking...

K7hyd

12 posts

42 months

Tuesday 1st October 2024
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Exterior styling ticks all the boxes imo. Just the interior with that previous generation PS4 controller type switch gear and sound effects will inevitably let it down. If only they spent a little more time considering the functionality of the interior controls…

samoht

6,593 posts

161 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Looks great to me, especially the pics of the red car going sideways biggrin

Also just reading the spec sheet brings a smile to my face.

Good stuff!

pheonix478

2,951 posts

53 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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That glass section at the rear looks absolutely terrible. Would love one in black to hide that though. What a beast. At this price point though I think I'd rather have the vanquish. Shouldn't have to be choosng a colour to hide stty design.

m62tu

66 posts

54 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Were all press cars gold on green? or is this the same single car thrashed by multiple journalists.
I wouldn't mind this shade of leather for my seats.

Wadeski

8,670 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Its definitely a good looking thing overall, but you wonder if the Ferrari stylists have ever just...LOOKED at the rear of a 550 Maranello, the shape of the rear glass, the rear 3/4 view and haunches, the kamm tail...and...maybe they really, really should have?

N.A.R.T Spyder

150 posts

75 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Not sure about the black 'grill' between the headlights, reminds me of the latest Vauxhall Mokka / Grandland. Definitely looks better in red in these pictures.

CountyAFC

3,023 posts

18 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Ferrari styling, inside and out, has really lost its way. The current line up is probably the worst looking in their entire history.

Kipsrs

579 posts

64 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Interesting comments so far, some seem to love it and others like parts of it. Me, I find it a little challenging to look at, not Ferraris prettiest inside or out.

911Spanker

2,541 posts

31 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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pheonix478 said:
That glass section at the rear looks absolutely terrible. Would love one in black to hide that though. What a beast. At this price point though I think I'd rather have the vanquish. Shouldn't have to be choosng a colour to hide stty design.
Same here. That back end looks very unresolved.

Spiros115

390 posts

65 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Looking forward to the reprise of the Vanquish v V12 FE Ferrari battle some 20+ years down the road, back then it was heart v head, feels like it’s going to be a much closer thing this time around, Vanquish doing it for me on style stakes so far and it’s interior is miles ahead. You can also option it’s weird black bit on boot in body colour which makes a big difference unlike the “over my dead body” lack of option on the 12c!

Edited by Spiros115 on Wednesday 2nd October 06:53

Jon_S_Rally

3,939 posts

103 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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I don't doubt that it's very impressive, and that the engine is wonderful, but the styling is a real let-down for me. The big chunks of black above the rear lights just look really clumsy. I'm just struggling with Ferrari styling generally right now though. This is not well resolved, the 296 is overly fussy, and the body-colour grill on the Roma is just a disaster. It's not just a Ferrari problem though. We just seem to be going through a period of iffy design, as loads of manufacturers are putting out some pretty ugly stuff.

Nicolas Lazar

193 posts

42 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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The Want is weak with this one ...

FFinally

96 posts

42 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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I’ve been fortunate to see the car in the flesh up close a couple of times, and pictures really don’t do it justice. It looks spectacular in the metal - certainly a departure from the F12 (which I currently have) and 812 but that design had been taken as far as it could. I also think the interior is a very nice place to be - to be honest I would never try and change a radio station in the F12 on the move (noting that (i) the engine sound beats whatever is on the wireless anyway and (ii) the radio reception is terrible anyway) so I don’t think anything is actually lost when it comes to ease of operation. Ferrari has always focused the driver on the driving, and sitting in the driver’s seat behind that steering wheel will be a terrific place to be. There is a bravery to the design here that I don’t see in the step from Aventador to Revuelto.

CLK-GTR

1,500 posts

260 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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It's not a car that makes me think wow I want one. I think without the daft black bits it would be, the rest of it works nicely.

CountyAFC

3,023 posts

18 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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FFinally said:
There is a bravery to the design here that I don’t see in the step from Aventador to Revuelto.
What you see as bravery, I see as running out of ideas and resorting to a shockingly poor homage of the Daytona, which was never going to succeed on a modern car.

(I dont think the Revuelto is all it could be either, and the new Aston Martin is awful compared to it's predecessor).

cerb4.5lee

37,368 posts

195 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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CountyAFC said:
Ferrari styling, inside and out, has really lost its way. The current line up is probably the worst looking in their entire history.
Not that it matters, because I can't afford one, but I never look at a Ferrari anymore and "want" one nowadays. I did used to absolutely love the way most of their cars looked back in the 80's/90's though in comparison. As I've grown up they've become less and less desirable to me, but they still make some fine engines though I reckon.

S600BSB

6,636 posts

121 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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cerb4.5lee said:
CountyAFC said:
Ferrari styling, inside and out, has really lost its way. The current line up is probably the worst looking in their entire history.
Not that it matters, because I can't afford one, but I never look at a Ferrari anymore and "want" one nowadays. I did used to absolutely love the way most of their cars looked back in the 80's/90's though in comparison. As I've grown up they've become less and less desirable to me, but they still make some fine engines though I reckon.
Same.

DonkeyApple

62,792 posts

184 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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It's like one of those women that is kind of attractive but all the features are just slightly not right.

As for the end of the road for ICE Ferrari, the handful of 2035 dates are of little relevance to this particular country. Where they sell the bulk of their premium products are markets which aren't planning to enact 100% bans and even inside the EU the consumer who can purchase a Ferrari can very obviously pay the huge cost premium for an allowed synthetic petrol.

It's one of those niche car brands which really doesn't have to worry itself unlike say Porsche where it's high volume of sales and the fact that the typical customer uses their Porsche as an everyday car and doesn't have the means to be paying ultra high fuel costs.

In short, if Ferrari just wished to keep selling ICE only then it could quite easily. And they will certainly keep selling ICE because they can and their customers can afford to keep using them.

86wasagoodyear

739 posts

111 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Too much of everything & styled by the ugly stick, especially at the back. I'm sure it's an impressive machine, but I don't find it a remotely interesting one.
On the other hand, that yellow Testarossa in the article below... cloud9