RE: Porsche announces new Cup 2 tyre for Carrera GT
RE: Porsche announces new Cup 2 tyre for Carrera GT
Thursday 10th October 2024

Porsche announces new Cup 2 tyre for Carrera GT

Michelin promises extra grip, better braking and more predictability. And they're free for recall customers


After a few high profile (to put it lightly) incidents, the Carrera GT earned itself a rep as one of the more notorious supercars of the early '00s. But with advances in tyre technology, the V10 Porsche has improved alongside the rubber. Now Porsche has collaborated with Michelin once more for an all-new, Carrera GT-specific, Cup 2 tyre, one promising to ‘further improve the driving dynamics and safety of the super sports car on both wet and dry roads’. No excuse not to drive yours, basically, especially with the recall now complete. 

Obviously this hasn’t been the work of a moment. Jorg Bergmeister has been involved in the process, which has included Nurburgring lapping to get the N-rating reserved exclusively for Porsche. The Cup 2 has been the go-to track tyre of choice for more than a decade now, really, with everything from hot hatches to hypercars benefitting from their fitment. For this application, two different compounds are used in the tread: silicic acid on the inner shoulder for optimum grip in the wet, with the outer shoulder and tread block focused on dry grip, where carbon black was an important part of the process. Whether anybody is going to use their CGT in the rain, given they’re now seven-figure supercars, remains to be seen. But good to know the tyre tech is there. 

The stats exist to back up the claims, too. In addition to ‘improved feedback at the upper limits’ - which sounds very beneficial in a car of this calibre - the new Cup 2 reduces the 62mph-zero braking distance by 2.5m. At double the speed, that advantage becomes 12m. It’d probably make for an even faster Nurburgring Nordschleife laptime, too, the original having secured a 7:28 with Walter Rohrl 20 years ago, though that’d be dependent on someone offering up their car…

Bergmeister added of the tyres: “I’m impressed by how the engineers improved the feedback at the upper limits. You feel much more distinctly the point at which the tyre starts to lose its grip. The new tyres not only make the Carrera GT faster, they make it easier for the car to be driven at speed.” As if the Type 980 Porsche couldn’t be any more desirable. The tyres are available to order now via Porsche Classic or a Porsche Centre, and expect them to carry an appropriately lofty price: the closest equivalent Porsche N0-marked Cup 2 on Black Circles is almost £600 for one rear. Good job owners got a free set included as part of the recall work, then. They’d surely sit fantastically on this Paint To Sample Vesuvio car - then time to add to its 24,000 miles wherever you see fit. 


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Jermy Claxon

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3,367 posts

168 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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That passes for news, does it?

MDL111

8,900 posts

206 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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thanks, that made me smile - an article about new tyres being available
then again, always nice to see a pic of a CGT

edit: the comment, not the article

C5_Steve

8,864 posts

132 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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Jermy Claxon said:
That passes for news, does it?
One of the most iconic supercars in modern history which has a notorious history with tyres, so yes, although the owner base is low on PH (there are some!) I think it's worth hearing about smile

Plus I agree with the above, any excuse for a pic of one.

LotusOmega375D

9,342 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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Recall for tyres?

That could open a can of worms! biggrin

Glenn63

3,922 posts

113 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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Is it really noticeably different to the Cup 2 you can buy anyway for any car? Surly CGT owners haven’t been using the same tyres they came on from the factory 20 years ago until now when they can finally change to this new super specific cup 2 that’s perfectly mated to the CGT laugh

samoht

7,218 posts

175 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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It feels like the larger story here is that for a year and a half, Porsche Carrera GT owners were disallowed from driving their cars, and that's now resolved and the cars are cleared to be used again.

The new tyres is more of a side story it seems to me, albeit good news.

CKY

2,268 posts

44 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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samoht said:
It feels like the larger story here is that for a year and a half, Porsche Carrera GT owners were disallowed from driving their cars, and that's now resolved and the cars are cleared to be used again.
It's fine, it's a Porsche - the fanaticism from the frothing masses and some forthcoming release of another anodyne limited-release 911 will see it gets conveniently forgotten about.

PaulJC84

1,110 posts

246 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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Looks like Sport Auto are going to do some laps on the Nurburgring with it. Not sure if timed to compare or what.

spikyone

1,912 posts

129 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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MDL111 said:
then again, always nice to see a pic of a CGT
Controversial opinion alert.

The engine is fantastic, and pairing it with a manual gearbox will always win PH points. But.. the CGT has always looked like a squished Boxster to me - one of the least special-looking super/hypercars I can think of. Same for the 981. There's just no imagination or emotion in their designs.

I know McLaren are the whipping boys on PH for having a range that all looks the same, but at least they all look like supercars rather than their million quid limited run cars looking like something that costs £50k...

  • Ducks for cover*
Anyway, this is one of the least interesting pieces of news PH has run in a long time.

thatsprettyshady

4,693 posts

194 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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The first supercar I ever saw in person, it turned up on the back of a low loader at my local Surrey vilage train station and I got to watch the guy try and unload it off the back.

I had read that the clutches on these are particularly tricky to use and that was proved correct as it took about 15 minutes, with flares of that V10 revving and corresponding stalls hehe

Lovely car, glad it's still getting attention.

FaustF

806 posts

183 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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Someone get it round the ring again for a time with those on!

brillomaster

1,865 posts

199 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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opens up a can of worms, theres going to be a load of supercars from 10-20 years ago running round with period correct (ie crap) tyres on. makes sense that manufacturers of such cars should strongly encourage owners to change their tyres every 5 years regardless of mileage if they actually want to drive their cars at all, save the bad press of them binning it...

but then again... if you're stupid enough to drive your 20 year old supercar on 20 year old tyres, thats kinda on you if you crash...

hu8742

364 posts

154 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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At last, tyres that won't make me crash it. I've been waiting all these years to buy one but the tyre-thing just held me back.

f6box

237 posts

26 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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Glenn63 said:
Is it really noticeably different to the Cup 2 you can buy anyway for any car? Surly CGT owners haven’t been using the same tyres they came on from the factory 20 years ago until now when they can finally change to this new super specific cup 2 that’s perfectly mated to the CGT laugh
Indeed. And for real-world road use, which includes driving in the rain, you wouldn't want a Cup tyre, anyway. So, you're probably still better off with the best available 'supersport' category summer road tyre than a full on Cup tyre. Different story for track work, no doubt, I'm sure the new Cup 2 is great for that.

ManyMotors

1,100 posts

127 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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spikyone said:
MDL111 said:
then again, always nice to see a pic of a CGT
Controversial opinion alert.

The engine is fantastic, and pairing it with a manual gearbox will always win PH points. But.. the CGT has always looked like a squished Boxster to me - one of the least special-looking super/hypercars I can think of. Same for the 981. There's just no imagination or emotion in their designs.

I know McLaren are the whipping boys on PH for having a range that all looks the same, but at least they all look like supercars rather than their million quid limited run cars looking like something that costs £50k...

  • Ducks for cover*
Anyway, this is one of the least interesting pieces of news PH has run in a long time.
I agree, spiky. The CGT seems way overrated except as a test of clutch operation. If we're drawing fire, I'd also put the LFA in the category of overrated as it is cramped, bad looking and the engine sounds like an .049, or a teeny chainsaw for those not familiar.

ManyMotors

1,100 posts

127 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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Eleven years late for Paul Walker.

CG2020UK

2,954 posts

69 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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I love news on new tyre tech even niche examples like this.

I’d love to see the times some older cars could do in the latest rubbers.

braddo

12,294 posts

217 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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f6box said:
Indeed. And for real-world road use, which includes driving in the rain, you wouldn't want a Cup tyre, anyway. So, you're probably still better off with the best available 'supersport' category summer road tyre than a full on Cup tyre. Different story for track work, no doubt, I'm sure the new Cup 2 is great for that.
Real world use of a Carrera GT. What do you think that involves?

Especially for the vast majority of cars that don’t live in the UK…

You also underestimate how good the Cup2s are.

Glenn63

3,922 posts

113 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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braddo said:
f6box said:
Indeed. And for real-world road use, which includes driving in the rain, you wouldn't want a Cup tyre, anyway. So, you're probably still better off with the best available 'supersport' category summer road tyre than a full on Cup tyre. Different story for track work, no doubt, I'm sure the new Cup 2 is great for that.
Real world use of a Carrera GT. What do you think that involves?

Especially for the vast majority of cars that don’t live in the UK…

You also underestimate how good the Cup2s are.
Im sure this new cup 2 is perfectly capable of rolling CGT from garage into trailer into dealer back into trailer and into garage once a year.

braddo

12,294 posts

217 months

Thursday 10th October 2024
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Glenn63 said:
Im sure this new cup 2 is perfectly capable of rolling CGT from garage into trailer into dealer back into trailer and into garage once a year.
There are a few owners on here who use their cars properly, so rejoice for those few. biggrin