Car Stolen... Advice Needed

[Quadratica]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 18 December 2024 at 21:06

[Dog Biscuit]

Maybe they dumped it after 3 miles when they realised it was electric?

[Alex Z]

On the last point, no. Cars have used rolling codes for ages, so replaying an old signal does nothing.

[shtu]

The "rolling codes" thing is a bit misleading.

Relay theft works by tricking the key and car that they are much closer together than they really are, allowing the theives to open and start the car.

Without knowing (or wanting to know) details of the specific car, if it has keyless entry and start, that's the risk. More recent cars have systems that put the keys to sleep and unable to be woken by hte kit theives use.

Pop the keys n your microwave until you can buy something to store the keys in, eg, https://defendersecurityproducts.co.uk/shop/crimeb... or see if the keyless systems can be disabled.

[MattsCar]

Did you report it to your insurance/police?

Reason I ask is that if I were to find it in the way you did, I wouldn't do either on the basis of increased insurance payments for the next five years.

So, if you haven't yet, or planning to do so, might be worth bearing in mind.

[richhead]

shtu said:

The "rolling codes" thing is a bit misleading.

Relay theft works by tricking the key and car that they are much closer together than they really are, allowing the theives to open and start the car.

Without knowing (or wanting to know) details of the specific car, if it has keyless entry and start, that's the risk. More recent cars have systems that put the keys to sleep and unable to be woken by hte kit theives use.

Pop the keys n your microwave until you can buy something to store the keys in, eg, https://defendersecurityproducts.co.uk/shop/crimeb... or see if the keyless systems can be disabled.

dont turn on the microwave tho

[Dingu]

MattsCar said:

Did you report it to your insurance/police?

Reason I ask is that if I were to find it in the way you did, I wouldn't do either on the basis of increased insurance payments for the next five years.

So, if you haven't yet, or planning to do so, might be worth bearing in mind.

Idiotic advice.

[TooLateForAName]

Whats the car?

kia/hyundai have a coupe of issues that together make it pretty easy to steal them. look at gameboy theft.
That isnt relay theft.

[MattsCar]

Dingu said:

MattsCar said:

Did you report it to your insurance/police?

Reason I ask is that if I were to find it in the way you did, I wouldn't do either on the basis of increased insurance payments for the next five years.

So, if you haven't yet, or planning to do so, might be worth bearing in mind.

Idiotic advice.

It is not idiotic advice.

OP has now mentioned that they reported it prior to finding it on the app, which was not mentioned in the first post. OP did correctly report.

However...had they found it prior to contacting police/ insurance, then not reporting it would be a wise move as they would not have had a "theft" on their insurance records for the next 5 years.

What would make it worthwhile reporting to take that hit? Moral obligation? Help with police stats?

Edited by MattsCar on Saturday 16th November 23:29

[MattsCar]

No arguments on my end, was just advising that if you hadn't reported it to the insurers/police, it would be worth thinking about whether to do so or not, had you found the car and all was well. Apparently, this is "idiotic", will wait to see why.

Best of luck with your situation.

[FilH]

MattsCar said:

Did you report it to your insurance/police?

Reason I ask is that if I were to find it in the way you did, I wouldn't do either on the basis of increased insurance payments for the next five years.

So, if you haven't yet, or planning to do so, might be worth bearing in mind.

Would say always report it to the police.

As in them 3 miles they may have pinged a speed or red light cam. Would be a right pain in a few weeks time when the NIP turns up.

All so for the whats it worth ( probably not much ) more crimes reported in you area , might result in a higher police presence.


But mainly the hastle of proving you didn't earn then 3 points!





Just to add insurance side of things, had a car pinched myself, 6 ish weeks later found and i got it back, insurance paid a few costs, no repair stuff needed. But no increased premiums on either of my cars. Did compare sites with and without claim.

Edited by FilH on Sunday 17th November 18:30

[Gericho]

Dingu said:

Idiotic advice.

In what way? Why should he report it when he found it in perfect condition?

I keep my keys in a faraday pouch. This one in fact which works fine https://ebay.us/6b6MKM

Edited by Gericho on Sunday 17th November 19:09

[miniman]

Gericho said:

Dingu said:

Idiotic advice.

In what way? Why should he report it when he found it in perfect condition?

I keep my keys in a faraday pouch. This one in fact which works fine https://ebay.us/6b6MKM

Edited by Gericho on Sunday 17th November 19:09

As above, because he doesn’t know what it was used for whilst he wasn’t in possession of it. If the police turn up at his house next week saying it was used in a robbery / worse and his response was “yes it was stolen but then I found it again” might not go well.

[sunnyb13]

These Ionic‘s are easy to steal

[Antony Moxey]

Found three miles away, but that doesn’t mean the car was driven three miles straight there and dumped, it could have gone anywhere before it ended up there, and could have been used for hours between being stolen and being found. OP was right to report, if for no other reason than get him off the hook should the car have been used in anything untoward.

[mikeiow]

Quadratica said:

Faraday pouch, steering disclock and chain across driveway wall installed. I hope these small things will deter future attempts.

Thanks to all who contributed to my query.

I found faraday pouches can lose their effectiveness after a few months.
We keep our key in a metal tin in the drawer now….

Sorry to hear the experience. Would you mind sharing the model?

[Gericho]

This has got me wondering if its possible to disable keyless entry/drive from the car's menu. I would turn mine off, prefer to press a button to lock/unlock.

[AlexRS2782]

mikeiow said:

...Sorry to hear the experience. Would you mind sharing the model?

Based on a previous thread - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... - it's an Ionic EV.

[s55shh]

if you are worried about having a stolen flag against your car, you could withdraw the theft report from the police by telling them that you were really pissed that night and obviously forgot where you had parked it!

[speedking31]

Gericho said:

This has got me wondering if its possible to disable keyless entry/drive from the car's menu. I would turn mine off, prefer to press a button to lock/unlock.

That is keyless entry (or send me a parrot).