RE: One-of-a-kind electric Ultima prototype for sale
RE: One-of-a-kind electric Ultima prototype for sale
Monday 2nd December 2024

One-of-a-kind electric Ultima prototype for sale

Ultima has ruled out offering an EV for now, but that didn't stop the Tesla-powered RSE from being built...


Seemingly nothing is off limits in the world of EV conversions. Everrati’s been shoving batteries and electric motors into classics for many years now, most recently gutting a 964 Porsche 911 of its flat-six and slotting in a rear-mounted, 500hp EV unit in its place. Elsewhere, there are electric conversion kits for Ferrari Testarossas, Jaguar E-Types, old Land Rovers, Minis, you name it. No matter how precious the donor car there will be someone out there with enough money (and stones the size of Sisyphus’s boulder) to make an EV out of it.

Whether you agree with it or not, there are several rationales for subjecting something classic-shaped to a transplant. Less logical is the morbid curiosity - I could never personally do that to a car both out of respect to its heritage and a fear of being put on some kind of PH hit list - but it’s vaguely intriguing to see an EV enthusiast bring something different to the table. Especially if it's something track-focused, like the remarkable Ultima ‘RSE’ we have for sale here.

Now, this probably won’t incite a mass riot in the same way a classic 911 EV conversion might, but it’s still a huge departure from what you might call a ‘normal’ Ultima. Though a kit car of sorts (meaning the assembler can theoretically shove whatever engine they like with the right know-how; hence why Gordon Murray used them to develop V12s for the McLaren F1 and GMA T.50), they’re typically offered with some sort of Chevy V8 for maximum bang-for-buck performance. For the Ultima RS, which this EV is based on, that would have been either an LS or LT V8 with up to 1,200hp (and a heck of a lot of noise) under your right foot.

Admittedly, the RSE can’t match the power nor the volume of the top-line RS, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t give it a run for its money. It’s powered by a Tesla ‘Large Drive Unit’ (or LDU) with custom twin cooling loops and numerous software tweaks for a total output of 680hp. Off the line, it’ll hit 60mph in just 2.1 seconds, 100mph in 4.6 seconds and then get back to a standstill in 3.1 seconds. And it’s not that heavy, either. Despite carrying around a chunky electric motor and a 24kWh battery (which is supposedly good for 100 miles on a single charge), the RSE tips the scales at 988kg - only 58kg more than the RS.

The RSE, however, hasn’t been cobbled together by a man in a shed. Nope, it’s a factory-backed prototype built by engineering outfit PES Design And Developments and Ultima specialist Steve Smith. So it’s been put together with serious diligence, then, with some top-draw hardware under its carbon skin such as Nitron dampers and heavy-duty AP Racing brakes. The wheels are a touch wider than the standard RS to help manage the electric motor’s near-instant torque, and there’s even more carbon aero appendages to keep it planted at high speed. So grippy is the RSE that the seller claims none of the performance test were run with traction control or any fancy torque-vectoring tech - just good old-fashioned mechanical bite.

Only one prototype was built, with Ultima pulling the plug on the RSE when several key markets relaxed EV mandates for small-scale manufacturers. It is, however, a fully functional, one-of-a-kind electric hypercar in need of a new home. All you’ll need is a spare £159,500 and, ideally, somewhere to charge it up, which’ll be significantly cheaper than filling it up with super unleaded over and over again. We’re talking about Rimac Nevera levels of performance here at a discount of many millions. It’s that giant-slaying performance, and not a V8, that makes the RSE as true an Ultima as any. 


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mersontheperson

Original Poster:

729 posts

184 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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That would be a perfect occasional motor for a bit of fun

rodericb

8,292 posts

145 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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I think these are a good candidate for an electric powertrain, if that's what you want (yes, I know that Ultima didn't build this car). I wouldn't want them to stop producing them with internal combustion engines either.

edoverheels

519 posts

124 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Looks great but the range will be problematic. I have an electric car with a 50ish kWh battery and small motor but if driven fast has a range of only about 100 miles. With only a 24 kWh battery I can’t see this going much further than 50 miles. I’m not an EV hater and can’t wait for a solid state battery powered roller skate to turn up.

Edited by edoverheels on Monday 2nd December 08:17

essayer

10,303 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Ultima-RSE? hehe

Turbobanana

7,574 posts

220 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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essayer said:
Ultima-RSE? hehe
Yeah, I thought that too.

I also thought about how much of an arse you'd look having to stop every 75 miles or so to recharge your fancy-looking racecar while all the Teslas, MGs and Kias you'd just flown past merrily sailed on.

Nevertheless, as someone has said, cracking bit of kit for some weekend fun.

Still Mulling

15,194 posts

196 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Looks fabulous, and I have a home charger. Now just to find the cash...

MDL111

8,285 posts

196 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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I guess if it can do anywhere close to 100 miles on track, then that is not bad - even 60-70 would be plenty. Question then is how quickly can you charge it to go out again.

Cryssys

742 posts

57 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Well, it certainly has rarity value as you're never going to see another one. As for it being a weekend car, I'd rather spend my £160K on something else thank you. That said it does seem to be good value as it's probably significantly cheaper to run and maintain that an ICE.

I wonder how much a spare battery costs?

Abarth131

5,830 posts

226 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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essayer said:
Ultima-RSE? hehe
Brilliant

steveb8189

516 posts

210 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Is this road legal? No mention on SVA or MOT (although I think it's classified as a new car right?)

Terminator X

18,807 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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#burnit

TX.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,505 posts

117 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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I'm assuming it is relatively quiet given the EV engine ? Must be a little surreal....

philrs03

363 posts

115 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Very cool. Awesome bit of engineering as well.

When battery technology (that isn’t as cost prohibitive as it is now) comes along to allow conversions like that to be more mainstream I’d have one in a heartbeat, that’ll be bonkers to drive.

I’d have to also have a V8 one, I can’t, having never driven something fast end electric, get past the lack of engine noise (I don’t think!). But happy to be proven wrong.

philrs03

363 posts

115 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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schedoni said:
You coudl probably convert an existing Ultima for a lot less as there are companies selling 'crate' EV LS electric engine replacements and also used Tesla battery modules etc, but this has clearly been done to a very high standard. You could also probably add some more battery modules to increase the range if you wanted to. Presumably their idea behind replaceable packs was that on a track day you would have one pack charging while you were driving with another. Most drivers would want a 20 minute break between drives so it could work out very well provided that there was a charge point at the track. 24kWh at even a modest 50kW would only take 1/2 hour to charge, ready for when you come in.

It's a real shame they did not pursue it.
Yep, sound business model too. Sell a track day kit with a portable charger and spare batteries. Save the choice between eating and waiting in the queue for fuel at some tracks too where the pump has a 30 min time slot!

Glenn63

3,652 posts

103 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Does anyone actually drive Ultimas anywhere? They seem the ultimate driving machine on paper yet Iv probably seen two out on the roads in my entire life and zero on track days where I thought they’d be king?

Crudeoink

1,199 posts

78 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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If it actually did 4 miles / kWh at anything other than a 50mph gentle cruise is eat my hat! I'd imagine a range of about 24 miles is more likely at full attack!

simonrockman

7,042 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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In right hands I bet that could do an incredible 'ring time.

Snaaakeey

223 posts

91 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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What do you reckon ?

1-2 miles per KW when driven exuberantly?

HardMiles

401 posts

105 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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That's a great candidate for an LS swap I think! wink

borat52

584 posts

227 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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MDL111 said:
I guess if it can do anywhere close to 100 miles on track, then that is not bad - even 60-70 would be plenty. Question then is how quickly can you charge it to go out again.
Not a chance of that. Think you'd be lucky to get 25 miles on a track. It'll do its 100 mile range at a sedate constant speed.
A gen 1 taycan with around 80kwh usable is about 200 miles in the real world with the occasional squirt.