RE: Subaru Legacy Spec B | PH Auction Block
RE: Subaru Legacy Spec B | PH Auction Block
Saturday 4th January 2025

Subaru Legacy Spec B | PH Auction Block

A super subtle Japanese Domestic Market Subaru? They do exist...


We all know what to expect when it comes to a Japanese Domestic Market import, especially if it’s a model that’s been denied to the UK. It’ll be sillier, most likely, which is why we’ve grown to love them, more often than not with more power and extra features denied to the ordinary derivatives that bring out the fun.

But the silliness can extend to appearances as well; great for some, less desirable for others. And Subaru is the pastmaster when it comes to wild and wacky special editions for the home market. Think Impreza S201, bright yellow Spec Cs, family-friendly Foresters that would always be seen in blue and gold… they were great cars, no doubt, though perhaps a tad OTT for a lot of people. 

Which is where the Legacy always came in, the responsible adult of the fast Subaru range. And here, set for a PH auction in a few days, is what must be close to dream spec across the entire 35 years of Legacys: a spicy Japanese Domestic Market model, including the best part 300hp and a manual gearbox, that nobody would really have any clue about. 

That’s the Legacy way, of course. In the UK, even a model called a 3.0R was modest to the point of invisible; this JDM Spec B is almost as under-the-radar. The bonnet scoop is there, though extremely thin, and while there are twin exhausts, little else gives this car away as anything remotely potent. There were versions of the Legacy that featured STI goodies, though there’s nothing so overt here. 

That being said, there’s plenty to be excited by. Spec B for this car meant 280hp from the EJ20 flat-four turbo, which is believed to be a conservative estimate in this version, with a five-speed manual gearbox. All Legacys of this era drove pretty smartly as well, so there seems little reason a faster version won’t be equally entertaining. It promises to be more than capable in a modern context, while also keeping the driver part of the action in a fashion little now does. 

Having first arrived in the UK six years ago, it’s been with two owners since and ticked over 100,000 miles. The current owner has been driving it for four years, in which time there’s been some useful clutch and suspension work on top of servicing. Certainly it presents really well for a fast wagon now going into its third decade, with both exterior and interior in what seems like above average condition. As it ages, so the Legacy will require money to be spent, but then it offers up an experience nothing else comparable does: an equivalent Impreza is going to be a good deal more expensive. If the Volvo V70 R that’s also being auctioned next week doesn’t quite do it for you, a Spec B Subaru looks a fine alternative. Those in need of a fast estate are spoilt for choice…


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big_rob_sydney

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3,671 posts

223 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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20 years old and 108,000 miles? Even as a fan of Subaru's, I just wouldn't buy something like this today. I'm sure it will appeal to someone, but given how much things have moved on in just the last few years alone, never mind 2 decades, this would be a case of waiting for the borkage to inevitably occur. The only Subaru I would be after would be a collectors item (don't really care which one), that I would use on very rare occasions. As a daily, no chance in hell would I want one this old and with this many miles on it.

Hamo86

40 posts

73 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Still got my spec b

06 manual 196kays gt pump turbo at 18psi making 210kw @ wheels still on stock bottom end and orginal gasket

Owned it for 8 years now, been most best car I’ve owned

Weekend toy but I still looking forward to to driving it

The boxer noise, the flutter and the 3rd pedal - can’t beat it

GreatScott2016

2,507 posts

117 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Hamo86 said:
Still got my spec b

06 manual 196kays gt pump turbo at 18psi making 210kw @ wheels still on stock bottom end and orginal gasket

Owned it for 8 years now, been most best car I’ve owned

Weekend toy but I still looking forward to to driving it

The boxer noise, the flutter and the 3rd pedal - can’t beat it
I can understand the appeal for sure, great cars in my humble opinion thumbup

Twinair

1,026 posts

171 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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When I bought my impreza WRX I recall the dealers driver saying: ‘one of these (legacy) can see off that (impreza) across country’…

Interesting comment whilst picking up your new whip!

I never had the opportunity to ‘test’ his statement though…

This one has quite a few miles under its belt - wouldn’t be for me - but hey, variety - and all that :-))

Earthdweller

19,302 posts

155 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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big_rob_sydney said:
20 years old and 108,000 miles? Even as a fan of Subaru's, I just wouldn't buy something like this today. I'm sure it will appeal to someone, but given how much things have moved on in just the last few years alone, never mind 2 decades, this would be a case of waiting for the borkage to inevitably occur. The only Subaru I would be after would be a collectors item (don't really care which one), that I would use on very rare occasions. As a daily, no chance in hell would I want one this old and with this many miles on it.
They are brilliant cars ... and 100k on a 20 year old car ?

That's nothing

I've had 4 year old cars with more miles on than that

Of course you may be right and it will implode and cost you gazillions the moment you drive it ... or maybe not

martin12345

1,007 posts

118 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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big_rob_sydney said:
20 years old and 108,000 miles? Even as a fan of Subaru's, I just wouldn't buy something like this today. I'm sure it will appeal to someone, but given how much things have moved on in just the last few years alone, never mind 2 decades, this would be a case of waiting for the borkage to inevitably occur. The only Subaru I would be after would be a collectors item (don't really care which one), that I would use on very rare occasions. As a daily, no chance in hell would I want one this old and with this many miles on it.
I share 2 dailies with my partner. A 3 year old car and a 22 year old car (with 110k miles). Each does about 6 to 8k miles a year. I have invested time and money to replace lots of rubber suspension parts, wheel bearings and consumables and as a result the car has been almost completely reliable. Most recent failure was the heater valve which was inconvenient (no de-frost) but not expensive. With appropriate work I think you can daily a 20+ year old car, although I would hesitate to have it as an only car as it does need a few days off the road every year or two for parts replacement (hopefully preventative maintainance !) and having another car to use at that time is essential/very convenient

bennytheball

255 posts

56 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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I've just sold my Legacy (recent SOW smile) and, as expected, miss it already.

Always fancied a JDM twinscroll but put off by the spec; they nearly all have cloth seats, no sunroof and lack side/curtain airbags. Usually come with a cracked dashboard too.

Still a special car and, if you're up for a bit of spannering and don't mind high running costs, it'd make a great daily.

MDMA .

10,682 posts

130 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Had a couple of Gen 4 Legacy Touring Wagons. This one looks a little tired. Grade 3.5 on arrival, dash is badly cracked, mismatched tyres, rusty rear shocks (according to the recent MOT) and brakes. Exhaust doesn’t seem to sit right on the O/S, and quite a bit of the trim needs sorting. It’s a project car. The later facelift/6 speed is the one to have anyway.

carinaman

25,167 posts

201 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Thanks for sharing MDMA.

Kawasaki2000

257 posts

20 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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I made the horrendous mistake of listening to motoring magazines and bought a high milage car once. A mistake not to be repeated.

Fine if your not concerned about being at work on time EVERY DAY and you have the deep pockets and a reliable mechanic to understand and fix things.

It's always amusing reading the used car guides on what to look for on cars over 5 years old with things like 'timing chain wear involves removing the engine' or over 100000 miles you'll need to remove the DPF, delete the EGR, remap, replace the DMF and do the water pump and belt on every diesel ever invented. That's if the injectors haven't gone because the first owner put in petrol by mistake, got her flush and then drove on saying nothing. That's of course if you can find a car that has had the oil changed at regular intervals. But honestly his neighbour was a mechanic and it was done every year. No, there aren't any receipts for the oil, but you can trust me and anyway service intervals are advisory really.

Cynical? Moi? That said a mate ran a 1.6hdi C5 (a 1.6!!) to 180k, which the 'experts' assured him was impossible. Wipers killed it in the end of all things.

Doshy

861 posts

246 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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big_rob_sydney said:
20 years old and 108,000 miles? Even as a fan of Subaru's, I just wouldn't buy something like this today. I'm sure it will appeal to someone, but given how much things have moved on in just the last few years alone, never mind 2 decades, this would be a case of waiting for the borkage to inevitably occur. The only Subaru I would be after would be a collectors item (don't really care which one), that I would use on very rare occasions. As a daily, no chance in hell would I want one this old and with this many miles on it.
My Legacy Outback was the same year and did 250k miles before I had to bid it a tearful farewell.

Demonix

827 posts

241 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Practical all weather wagon, subdued interior is actually tasteful in comparison to a wrx sti lairy hues which don't wear or age well. 108k miles isn't that leggy, some tlc and keep it maintained and soldier on for many more. A few performance mods and you'd have a tip run sleeper.

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

137 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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I like this a lot! It would suit my needs perfectly and it's also incredibly cool.

Someone please tell me that I don't need to replace my car.

Slipperywang

84 posts

105 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Does a 20 year old car with 100k miles really warrant an auction ?

smaybury

89 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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I guess anyone buying should be wise to the realities of running a 20-year-old imported motor, but if not...

I've had mine - an 06 JDM manual - for 7 years now. I love it to bits, but the past year has seen the problems start to arrive. The past 12 months alone I've replaced seized front calipers, a burst radiator, cat-back exhaust (and front section has now sprung a slight leak), and I had to do the front lower control arms after one of the alloy ones snapped. Could have been a write-off but I was doing about 3mph when it went.

Those have been the big failings: there's been a tonne of little jobs as well such as rubber trim disintegrating/detaching, wiper motor bushes giving way, etc etc.

There are decent parts suppliers - especially Import Car Parts - and without them I'm not sure ownership would be viable.

Needs a new clutch and that downpipe now, and I'm wrestling with the sunken cost fallacy a little now, but do hope/plan to get it through at least a couple more winters.

trails

7,216 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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big_rob_sydney said:
20 years old and 108,000 miles? Even as a fan of Subaru's, I just wouldn't buy something like this today. I'm sure it will appeal to someone, but given how much things have moved on in just the last few years alone, never mind 2 decades, this would be a case of waiting for the borkage to inevitably occur. The only Subaru I would be after would be a collectors item (don't really care which one), that I would use on very rare occasions. As a daily, no chance in hell would I want one this old and with this many miles on it.
Every single Subaru thread, same comments biggrin

trails

7,216 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Kawasaki2000 said:
I made the horrendous mistake of listening to motoring magazines and bought a high milage car once. A mistake not to be repeated.

Fine if your not concerned about being at work on time EVERY DAY and you have the deep pockets and a reliable mechanic to understand and fix things.

It's always amusing reading the used car guides on what to look for on cars over 5 years old with things like 'timing chain wear involves removing the engine' or over 100000 miles you'll need to remove the DPF, delete the EGR, remap, replace the DMF and do the water pump and belt on every diesel ever invented. That's if the injectors haven't gone because the first owner put in petrol by mistake, got her flush and then drove on saying nothing. That's of course if you can find a car that has had the oil changed at regular intervals. But honestly his neighbour was a mechanic and it was done every year. No, there aren't any receipts for the oil, but you can trust me and anyway service intervals are advisory really.

Cynical? Moi? That said a mate ran a 1.6hdi C5 (a 1.6!!) to 180k, which the 'experts' assured him was impossible. Wipers killed it in the end of all things.
This isn't a derv though...?

The Pistonsdead

7,006 posts

236 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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Slipperywang said:
Does a 20 year old car with 100k miles really warrant an auction ?
See how it pans out scratchchin

Lefty

21,267 posts

231 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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I love these things. Awesome.

Bloody ULEZ

72 posts

47 months

Saturday 4th January 2025
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I like it.
Not quite ULEZ friendly, so not for me (£12.50/day)
These don’t weigh much over 1400kg, so quite fast esp with a cheapish VF36 turbo upgrade. Easy enough to get to about 370bhp for about £2K inc parts and labour.
Then low 4s 0-60