RE: Oof: knockout BMW M535i (E12) for sale
RE: Oof: knockout BMW M535i (E12) for sale
Sunday 5th January 2025

Oof: knockout BMW M535i (E12) for sale

Need cheering up? Check out another gem that acid jazz paid for...


Say what you like about the precise nature of Jay Kay’s scattergun car collection, but when he nails it, it's usually with bells on - especially when it comes to note-perfect period BMWs. In the hackneyed, depressingly digital times we live in, the chiselled prospect of a box-fresh E12 M535i, vividly resplendent in Alpine White with M Sport decals, is like a hard, sobering slap in the face. One delivered by Bodie from CI5. In fact, its authenticity and unarguable coolness are so off-the-charts, you'd probably need to be put together like a 1981-era Lewis Collins to pull it off...

Trend-setting originality, of course, is at the heart of what makes the M535i special. As the vendor excitedly reminds us, the pumped-up derivative was the first series production model treated to the attention of BMW Motorsport. It was only built for what amounts to five minutes in car industry terms (from April 1980 to July 1981, according to its manufacturer) and in comparatively low volume (just 1,650 globally) but it laid the track for a tricolour leviathan to follow. 

Granted, it was hardly the world’s first fast saloon, yet clearly BMW had struck on something acutely special when, in its own words, it combined ‘a top-of-the-range limousine, compact and businesslike, with the performance and driving potential of a sophisticated sports car.’ It did the concept no harm at all that it came wrapped in Paul Bracq's impeccably well-designed, epoch-inspiring body. BMW will spend much of 2025 talking about what the latest iteration of Neue Klasse means; it will do very well indeed to mimic even a fifth of the E12’s legacy. 

As you might expect, wheels and spoiler aside, most of the Motorsport department’s contribution came underneath, where the suspension was overhauled with new struts and dampers alongside a limited-slip differential and disc brakes on both axles. The M535i needed it all to contain the 3.5-litre straight-six installed in the nose, a derivative of the M88 engine first used in the BMW M1. 

In the saloon, it produced 218hp which, via a five-speed manual and courtesy of a 1,430kg kerbweight, meant you arrived at 62mph in around 7 seconds and could eventually expect to nudge 140mph. With only 10,820 miles on the clock, we’d imagine this rare right-hand-drive example is still more than capable of living up to those numbers. And even if it weren’t, you’d be living every immersive rev with a wired grin on your boat race, while your aris soaks up the pleasure of being in contact with an impossibly gorgeous Recaro seat. 

You’ll have richly earned both sensations if you've parted with the £104,900 asking price - a valuation that eclipses the £98,500 you’d pay for this similarly charming 2002 Turbo or the £92,490 needed to bag a 24-plate, one-owner M3 CS. One is no less historically significant; the other, prodigiously quicker. But we’re inclined, for today at least, in the glum, post-festive fog of early January, to side with the Space Cowboy. If there’s a more uplifting M-car currently for sale on PH, we’ve not seen it.


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cerb4.5lee

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44,510 posts

209 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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That is super cool I reckon.

NumBMW

1,015 posts

158 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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Cool car, but what strikes me is the weight of the thing!
This is 40 years old with no structural protection from any angle, and it’s 1430kg.
A new Alfa Guilia Quad is only 100kg more, that’s incredible really.

MarkwG

5,926 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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NumBMW said:
Cool car, but what strikes me is the weight of the thing!
This is 40 years old with no structural protection from any angle, and it’s 1430kg.
A new Alfa Guilia Quad is only 100kg more, that’s incredible really.
I think it's a bit more than that, Alfa figures it at 1695kgs, I take your point though. Also the first car with computer desiged crumple zones, apparently.

McGee_22

8,107 posts

208 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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What a load of tosh about the engine being derived from the M88 in the M1. The engine was the fantastic M30 but at least ten years old when BMW put it in the E12 to make the M535i - the M88 was derived from the M30 not the other way round.

The 3.5 M30 engine was first introduced into the E24 635CSi and also the E23 735i before being used in the E12 M535i. It wasn’t a Motorsport engine in any of those versions.

Edited by McGee_22 on Sunday 5th January 04:40

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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That price is very, very high.

GianiCakes

680 posts

102 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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A truly lovely thing. Is that JayKay’s garage in the background?

wistec1

794 posts

70 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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Thing of beauty. Oh how BMW have lost their way of late.

Twinair

1,026 posts

171 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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It’s only recently that I have come to the conclusion that ‘things’ - all things - are here to be used and enjoyed.

With this, I would use it, not harshly, but use it all the same.

I love this shape of 5 - I had one - 518i with bendy up single exhaust - I loved that car…

I even think the price is not that mad, I mean that CS in the link, yeah, it’s faster but - every journey in the old 5 would be an occasion.

Buy it, use it - enjoy it - would be me.

WhyOne

669 posts

227 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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ilikepeas said:
That price is very, very high.
How much should they be asking for something so rare, desirable and in that condition?

PRO5T

7,570 posts

54 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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GianiCakes said:
A truly lovely thing. Is that JayKay’s garage in the background?
It’s JZM, a Porsche independent specialist.

MDMA .

10,682 posts

130 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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PRO5T said:
GianiCakes said:
A truly lovely thing. Is that JayKay’s garage in the background?
It’s JZM, a Porsche independent specialist.
It’s very nice. I think I lot of his cars get sold through them.


Edited by MDMA . on Sunday 5th January 09:29

AndySheff

6,928 posts

236 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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I was guessing 50-60k before I saw the price. It is a lovely old thing though.

JD2329

511 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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A nice old thing to be sure.
However I can’t see why it would be worth more than an E28 M5.
That’s almost as rare, and has the handbuilt M88 engine.

S600BSB

8,346 posts

135 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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Very, very cool.

PRO5T

7,570 posts

54 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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MDMA . said:
PRO5T said:
GianiCakes said:
A truly lovely thing. Is that JayKay’s garage in the background?
It’s JZM, a Porsche independent specialist.
It’s very nice. I think I lot of cars get sold through them.
I wouldn’t really know, I contacted them when I was looking for a GT3, to see if they knew of any cars that may be coming to market or any owners who may be thinking of selling, they took my details.

Never heard from them again.

350Matt

3,896 posts

308 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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WhyOne said:
ilikepeas said:
That price is very, very high.
How much should they be asking for something so rare, desirable and in that condition?
isn't everything just expensive now ?

5K is barely entry level for any fun car now

need about 8-10K at least

so on that basis this was a 60K car 5 years ago, so yeah 100K now....

CH80

425 posts

26 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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ilikepeas said:
That price is very, very high.
Agreed. The car is really worth about £60k. These are not that great to drive. The steering is woolly, there is snap oversteer, and they are not very fast; the engine is not the special one found in the E28 M5 either.

howardhughes

1,406 posts

233 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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Absolutely gorgeous. I loved this era of BMW.

mooseracer

2,783 posts

199 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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WhyOne said:
ilikepeas said:
That price is very, very high.
How much should they be asking for something so rare, desirable and in that condition?
Less than a lovely 2002 Turbo I'd say

LooneyTunes

9,379 posts

187 months

Sunday 5th January 2025
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That’s bloody lovely. And kudos to them for not doing the POA thing. It doesn’t seem like an outrageous level to price it at.