RE: 2025 BMW M2 vs Alpine A110 R

RE: 2025 BMW M2 vs Alpine A110 R

Sunday 27th April

2025 BMW M2 vs Alpine A110 R

How does the newly updated 480hp M2 get on when driven back-to-back with Alpine's R-rated masterpiece?


Spot the missing car. In any other year, we would’ve rolled out a Cayman 4.0 GTS to welcome an updated BMW M2 to the UK. But with the 718 hurtling toward retirement, Porsche doesn’t keep one on its current press fleet. And before very long, you won’t be able to buy one either. Sad times. We might’ve brought along our long-term Audi RS3 to fill the gap (given its price and power) though you need only drive the new M2 for half a minute to appreciate the many reasons why this would not have been worthwhile. Brass tacks: in terms of aura, only a 400hp Cayman seriously rivals a rear-drive BMW M chassis that's short of length and long on character. 

So we brought an Alpine A110 R along instead. Less for meaningful competition and more to remind us of all the things the M2 doesn’t do quite so well. If this doesn’t seem very fair, then consider the extent to which BMW has the fast coupe market to itself. The TT has gone, and the 718 is going. Mercedes builds nothing directly comparable. Jaguar is presently committed to building nothing at all. As we’ve established, no hatchback can truly be said to hold a candle to it. The sublime A110 is here as a reality check (its own shortcomings notwithstanding) but it cannot undo the basic fact that if you want a brand-new, four-seat, right-drive coupe with a large, non-hybridised engine, then it's the Skyscraper Grey car you're looking at. 

Of course, looking at any current BMW is usually where the arguments start. No, the facelifted M2 is still not pretty in a classical sense, nor a progressive one either. The A110, even with the R-specific aero disrupting its profile, is an air-cleaving arrowhead to the hole-punched 2 Series. Nevertheless, it is an unfortunate look rather than a good reason for not buying - famously the problem with its CLAR platform-sharing siblings. Thanks to its bulging arches and numerous exhaust pipes, it has the kind of physical presence that makes its enormous wheels (19-inch front, 20-inch rear) and tyres seem appropriate. Ditto the optional carbon roof. So much so that the concept of the M2 being a compact model does, once again, seem mostly theoretical. Only in length does an M4 appear to be meaningfully larger.  

This impression transfers wholesale to the interior, which seems barely distinguishable from big brother - assuming you don't bother to turn your head and study the comparative lack of legroom afforded to back-seat passengers. Familiarity with BMW’s dash-spanning Curved Display is certainly not the same thing as affection; it’s about as invigorating to look at as the giant train timetable at London Waterloo - but it does its job, even if it means you now alter the temperature begrudgingly via the screen. There is a new design to account for the missing switchgear, although it’s the new flat-bottomed steering wheel that caused the most unflattering comparison with the spartan A110. Imagine grasping the low-hanging branch of a fully mature birch tree. That’s the sort of grimly predictable girth we’re talking about in the M2. 

Still, it’s hard to gripe about the interior too much. Increased interaction with a touchscreen is on no one’s wish list in 2025, though if we had to choose an automotive OS to interact with, it would likely be the bells and whistles of the newly instituted BMW Operating System 8.5. In much the same way we’d more often than not choose a BMW cabin to sit in, for the simple reason that everything important tends to be acutely well-positioned for the business of driving. Not, perhaps, in the slip-me-on-like-a-glove style of the Alpine, which has the harnesses and hard surfaces that befit its fighter cockpit functionality - but like a burly, upmarket sports coupe nevertheless. Especially if you’re sitting on BMW’s weight-saving (and attention-grabbing) bucket seats, which are now available as an individual option, rather than being bundled in with the M Track Pack. 

With Porsche’s naturally aspirated flat-six absent, there are precious few engines still on sale that we’d rather sit behind either. The meat of the alterations made to the M2 (such as they are) have been enacted here, a light round of software-based revisions resulting in slightly more power from BMW’s turbocharged 3.0-litre straight-six. Get to 6,250rpm now and you’ll have located 480hp, 20hp more than before and apparently sufficient to shave 0.1 second from the car’s 0-62mph time. If that sounds like a very modest improvement, that's because it is - yet who now would quibble with any output gain from a petrol engine? The incoming CS version will doubtless go further in shortening the gap to the M4 Competition, but it is already rare to ponder the need for additional straight-line speed. 

It helps that BMW’s other core tweak has been made to the accelerator mapping with the intention of enhancing the M2’s responsiveness across all its various drive modes. Improved access to the S58’s 442lb ft of torque, even in its efficiency-focused default setting, is one of the things that separates the car from the RS3 - and most other rivals, for that matter. They tend to thrive on revs, as the A110 R does; the M2, deep-throated and ever alive to the impulsiveness of its driver, needs virtually no provocation at all to unleash the unflaggingly linear delivery that has become the engine’s calling card. Doubly so if you’ve chosen not to option the six-speed manual, which must make do with 37lb ft less peak twist and inevitably slower gear changes. 

Sequentially flicking through shorter ratios via the Steptronic’s substantial, leather-clad gear lever (or very decent paddles) remains one of the current M car pleasures, its moreish quality heightened here by an unadulterated connection to the rear axle and its active diff. This sense of being ferociously pushed everywhere you go, like a supermarket trolley being hustled down the cereal aisle by John Regis, is nothing new - yet it captures much that is memorable about the M2 experience, and about BMW’s decision to end its pure combustion output with increasingly powerful iterations of a shorter wheelbase coupe. You hardly need to do much of anything to tap into a steroidal supply of exploitable, feel-good energy. 

Or so it seems. Right up to the moment you buckle yourself into the A110 R and are made to realise just how hard you’ve been working - and, more obviously, how hard the adaptive chassis has been working under 1,725kg of what suddenly seems like deadwood. The M2, thanks to positive steering and attentive damping, hardly appears short of tenacity or traction or thickset agility in isolation, and yet, once again, it is made to feel about as wieldy as a two-headed sledgehammer by Alpine’s substantially lighter switchblade. For anyone who values changing direction like a Laser-class sailing dinghy, apparently unbound from anything as tedious as friction or mass or extraneous effort, the R is so far beyond the M2 that it’s like looking at Saturn from your back garden. 

A regular A110, being mid-engined and unburdened by rear seats or a proper boot, would make the M2 seem unnecessarily portly, so it is hardly a surprise that the track day special, equipped with manually adjustable coilovers and asymmetric carbon wheels, takes it solidly to task. Nevertheless, the Alpine’s suppleness and talent for communication - and the way it assures you with absolute conviction that a corner you’ve previously slowed for requires no braking whatsoever - is a startling reminder of the difference between coupe and bespoke sports car. It’s like running an assault course at 48 after dinner, and then being offered to repeat it in your 18-year-old body, empty but for a working adrenal gland. On a B road, the R shows the M2 up almost everywhere. 

Luckily for BMW, the real world is not made from deserted B roads; apply a finger almost anywhere else on the scale and it tips back in the M2’s favour - not least the fact that the R is now only available in run-out 70th Anniversary format, which costs from £103,345. Even when it launched, the R toiled under an £89,990 asking price, chiefly for its lack of engine X factor. In point of fact, the turbocharged 1.8-litre four-pot has always done its job admirably well, and requires not a single nag more than 300hp to record a 3.9-second-to-62mph time. But where you could pick the dulcet whirr of BMW’s hard-charging straight-six from a police lineup, the Renault lump thrums along in relative obscurity. 

Factor in the usual advantages of building a coupe from conventional modular architecture and the M2’s superiority in technology, usability and fit and finish, and you start to come full circle: paying £68,705 - a starting price less than £7k north of the RS3 - seems a fair trade, even allowing for the options you’ll want to add on top. A Cayman GTS 4.0, for as long as there is one, is £75,300 before extras. Not unexpectedly, this leaves the new M2 much where we left the old one: endowed with plenty of sawn-off charm to justify its established hot rod reputation, if ultimately short of the kind of handling nuance that a lighter, leaner M car might have delivered. Expect the CS to take up some of that slack - although even if it doesn’t, BMW M has left us with something that no subsequent electrified model can automatically claim to be: a crowd-pleaser. 


SPECIFICATION | 2025 BMW M2 (G87)

Engine: 2,993cc, twin-turbo, straight six
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 480@6,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 443@2,650-6,130rpm
0-62mph: 4.0secs
Top speed: 155mph (177mph with optional M Driver’s Pack)
Weight: 1,725kg (DIN)
MPG: 29.1
CO2: 221g/km
Price: £68,705 (Price as standard; price as tested £79,075, comprising M Race Track Pack (Carbon Fibre Interior Trim, M Carbon seats, M Carbon roof, M Drivers Pack (top speed increase, one-day BMW M race track training course) for £9,500, Skyscraper Grey metallic paint for £595, M brakes with red calipers for £275)

SPECIFICATION | 2024 ALPINE A110 R

Engine: 1,798cc, 4-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 300@6,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 251@2,400-6,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.9 seconds
Top speed: 177mph
Weight: 1,082kg (minimum kerbweight)
MPG: 41.5 (WLTP)
CO2: 153g/km
Price: £96,990 (no longer available to order) 

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Discussion

GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

1,767 posts

100 months

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Never a fan of the Alpine, always a fan of the M2. Now to read the review hehe

cayman-black

13,072 posts

228 months

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Yes two great cars both with proper engines , whats not to like?

Mafioso

2,376 posts

226 months

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I was very recently tempted to press the button on a new order manual M2 to replace my weekend MX5, but the extra tax band of the manual (£4680 for year 1!) put me off along with the stupid touchscreen with nagging speed warnings and steering intervention which need to be switched off every time. Shame really as the powertrain was excellent. Possibly explains why there's currently no brand new manual M2s available on Autotrader...

cerb4.5lee

35,991 posts

192 months

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I'd be very happy in either of those I reckon. cool

NGK210

3,764 posts

157 months

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Alpine, please.
Although bagging a used M2, and then fitting this redesigned front-end is tempting:



Edited by NGK210 on Saturday 26th April 09:56

cerb4.5lee

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Mafioso said:
I was very recently tempted to press the button on a new order manual M2 to replace my weekend MX5, but the extra tax band of the manual (£4680 for year 1!) put me off along with the stupid touchscreen with nagging speed warnings and steering intervention which need to be switched off every time. Shame really as the powertrain was excellent. Possibly explains why there's currently no brand new manual M2s available on Autotrader...
You do get used to the touchscreen quite quickly to be honest, and we have the same operating system in the 2024 X5 40d.

Scott-R

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An interesting comparison, but neither of them offer 900 miles of range, and both of them would be beaten by my 480hp Stage 2 Golf R that I don’t own. On that basis, neither car is for the true car enthusiast, so I’ll remain content with half a terraced building thank you

MarkJS

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159 months

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M2 all day long. And it’s an absolute bargain by comparison. I always liked the normal Alpine but nigh on £100k for this car with a 1.8 4 pot seems mental to me.

Johnson897210

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Ugly four cylinder turbo for nearly 100k? Madness, now I’m certainly no BMW fan but the choice seems pretty clear.

Water Fairy

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167 months

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Scott-R said:
An interesting comparison, but neither of them offer 900 miles of range, and both of them would be beaten by my 480hp Stage 2 Golf R that I don’t own. On that basis, neither car is for the true car enthusiast, so I’ll remain content with half a terraced building thank you
Time to let that one go lol

Anyway:

The bruiser vs the ballerina

I'd happily have both.

rs mexico

479 posts

228 months

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Scott-R said:
An interesting comparison, but neither of them offer 900 miles of range, and both of them would be beaten by my 480hp Stage 2 Golf R that I don’t own. On that basis, neither car is for the true car enthusiast, so I’ll remain content with half a terraced building thank you
Like the cut of your Jib .

cerb4.5lee

35,991 posts

192 months

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Scott-R said:
An interesting comparison, but neither of them offer 900 miles of range, and both of them would be beaten by my 480hp Stage 2 Golf R that I don’t own. On that basis, neither car is for the true car enthusiast, so I’ll remain content with half a terraced building thank you
Quality! biglaugh

Tickle

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216 months

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The A110, I'd have the S though over the R. Not much interest in the 2 series, even M.

Mysstree

517 posts

58 months

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Scott-R said:
An interesting comparison, but neither of them offer 900 miles of range, and both of them would be beaten by my 480hp Stage 2 Golf R that I don’t own. On that basis, neither car is for the true car enthusiast, so I’ll remain content with half a terraced building thank you
Buildings can move reasonably okay with the right power supply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnxeVTampZY&t=...

TheMilkyBarKid

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Water Fairy said:
Scott-R said:
An interesting comparison, but neither of them offer 900 miles of range, and both of them would be beaten by my 480hp Stage 2 Golf R that I don’t own. On that basis, neither car is for the true car enthusiast, so I’ll remain content with half a terraced building thank you
Time to let that one go lol

Anyway:

The bruiser vs the ballerina

I'd happily have both.
This. BMW for everyday, Alpine for high days and holidays. Hope Popeye has managed to get the water infection he seemed to be suffering from yesterday sorted out now hehe

Justin-ow582

375 posts

117 months

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NGK210 said:
Alpine, please.
Although bagging a used M2, and then fitting this redesigned front-end is tempting:



Edited by NGK210 on Saturday 26th April 09:56
Why not just get a s/h M2 Competition? They already look good from all angles without the need for a facelift and the difference in performance isn't something that you'd really be able to exploit for any valid reason on the road.

Ray_Aber

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I’m with NGK. That facelift pack goes a long way to removing the “made from LEGO” look of the M2.

On that basis, the M2 becomes an attractive proposition. Yet it’s the Alpine A110S - maybe with a Birds or Litchfield tickling - that I would choose. It’s more pure than the M2, more lithe, and for me, far more attractive. Not even the Cayman is as pretty as the Alpine.

If second hand cars were in play, I’d get an Emira - but for a new car, it’s the French beauty for me. With silver wheels please ;-)

Slowlygettingit

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53 months

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I thought I was warming to the m2’s challenging looks and even suggested Mrs SGI looked at one to replace her m4 (after 5 m3/4 of previous generations she has made it quite clear she doesn’t want a current gen M4 before she goes all new discovery on me).
However, I saw a black M2 on Thursday driving out of a car park and go back to my original view that is badly resolved style wise and disjointed. Didn’t help that the elderly driver in a technical style tracksuit top had more than a resemblance to Jimmy Saville. Both car and driver looked like tits.

pw_ninja

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71 months

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Scott-R said:
An interesting comparison, but neither of them offer 900 miles of range, and both of them would be beaten by my 480hp Stage 2 Golf R that I don’t own. On that basis, neither car is for the true car enthusiast, so I’ll remain content with half a terraced building thank you
"Beaten", in what (genuine, philosophical) sense? (I'm genuinely asking.)

Preference: "I prefer "my Golf R"". Good for you - genuinely. Many would disagree. A draw? i really liked my modded Megane 275 but even though I got it to sub 1300kg and 360bhp, it was not a scalpel...

Style: Ditto? Really? Depends, of course.

Road: Depends. You mean for going shopping? You mean for driving enjoyment. Depends. A draw (Hmmm.... Alpine.... I'm prepared not to eat and buy too much at Tesco/Carrefour to afford and run an Alpine smile I mean, if the car is 1000kg....)

Track: C'mon? Many tuned FWD hot hatches would "beat" a tuned Golf R on a track. (FWTW.) And even here, d'you mean track times or the feeling of *getting* a time (a decent time, but clipping apexes, getting break-points right, to accelerate almost perfectly out of that chicane....) or just time? An Alpine R (or very tuned Litchfield, Life110....), I would guess, would be "beating" a tuned Golf R's time (maybe). But the feelings... c'mon? Please, c'mon.

205. VW Golf R 20 Years Benjamin Leuchter 7:47.31 333 / 1525
147. Alpine A110R Christian Gebhardt 7:35.00 300 / 1087
(FastestLaps - Nurburgring. Stdd cars. I guess 480 would make up 12s. But what about adding 40bhp and torque to the Alpine? And what about a tighter track? Moins est plus, non?)
Maybe not?:
210. Mercedes - AMG A45 S (W177) Christian Gebhardt 7:48.80 421 / 1633

The petrol station? No idea. Does this matter?

The feeling that it's downstairs, in your garage (should you have a house and a garage...)? A draw? Depends... See point 1.

300 or 480 horses for courses.

I live in Catalunya. Roads are amazing. Alpine for me. But in winter, a 4wd monster hatch might also be fun. But a GR Yaris might be even funner. But I'm also skint, and loathe work, so a battered Ibiza is fine smile For now. I haven't rolled it yet.


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EV8

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cayman-black said:
Yes two great cars both with proper engines , whats not to like?
For starters, 4cyl 1.8 turbo engine for 100k?