RE: Subaru BRZ | PH Private Area

RE: Subaru BRZ | PH Private Area

Tuesday 29th April

Subaru BRZ | PH Private Area

Fancy your GR86 a lot rarer and slightly less skiddy? The JDM has just the thing...


There’s been rumours of Subaru looking to piggy back off the success of Toyota GR for quite some time. Subaru obviously has heaps of motorsport heritage under its belt yet in recent years it’s had far more success flogging crossovers than rally-born WRXs, and fun-sapping emission restrictions mean we’ve not had the latter in the UK for some time now. Talk of a WRC comeback with a rebadged GR Yaris have been doing the rounds for several years and while the firm is known to be interested in the 2027 regs change, there are no signs yet that a return is on the cards.

Now, you may wonder why Toyota would allow that to happen, given it’s dominated the WRC for the best part of a decade. Surely Subaru coming in would spoil its party? But it’s not like it’s stopped the two from collaborating in the past. Subaru, with a bit of persuasion, was heavily involved in the development of the original Toyota GT86, and got its own sports car in return, the BRZ, which was close to identical bar some very minor visual changes and a slightly different chassis. Both sold extremely well in markets the world over, so when the time came to launch a successor, the two partnered up again. Toyota came out with the sublime GR86, which came to the UK in limited numbers, while Subaru’s revamped BRZ, like the example we have here, stayed in Japan.

As before, the 2021-grade BRZ was a ringer for the GR. Up front was a Subaru-built 2.4-litre naturally aspirated four-banger, which was essentially a bored-out version of the 2.0-litre unit found in the previous model. And while the first-gen BRZ and GT86 were known for being a bit gutless, requiring a fair bit of commitment and a good helping of revs to really come alive, the revamped models were more giving. Power increased from 200hp to 234hp but, crucially, torque jumped to 184lb ft and was available from 3,700rpm. The old model? That could only muster 151lb ft, and you’d have to wring its neck to 6,400rpm to access it. 

There were differences, mind, with the styling being the obvious one, and even then it’s only really the front bumper that separates the two. The GR86 has sharper lines and a nose akin to the firm’s old rally machines, whereas the BRZ is a little rounder and smoother. You’ll have your own opinion on which one looks best (chances are it’s the GR86), but the subtle body kit that’s been applied to this example does bring some welcome sportiness that the standard car arguably lacks.

Beyond that, Subaru allegedly put its own spin on the BRZ chassis, with stiffer front springs and a slightly softer rear setup up over the GR86. The anti-roll bars were said to be different too, as were the front knuckles, which supposedly resulted in a more stable, less oversteery temperament. So it’s perhaps not quite as silly as the GR86 is, then, but for a dependable B road blaster that won’t step out of line when you least expect it, the BRZ has you covered.

They’re properly rare here, too. This is the only second-generation example currently for sale on PH (or anywhere for that matter), so missing out on this one will either require a) a fair bit of patience waiting for another to turn up or b) a call to your importer of choice. The asking price is £30,750, which is bang on what you’ll pay for a GR86 of similar mileage. No great surprise, because they’re almost identical, which does make the BRZ all the more tempting, if only to get your hands on the rarer car. Question is, what do you do with that body kit?


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British Beef

Original Poster:

2,492 posts

179 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Looks sharper and better than a GR86 to my eyes!

Why did Subaru not bring these to UK market?

86wasagoodyear

708 posts

110 months

Wednesday 30th April
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(Article said) "...and got its own two-seater sports car in return, the BRZ..."

hehe

fantheman80

1,941 posts

63 months

Wednesday 30th April
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looks like it rides a touch higher and wheels not as flush as the Toyota, but a proper rarity that..!

Groaver

70 posts

47 months

Wednesday 30th April
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British Beef said:
Looks sharper and better than a GR86 to my eyes!

Why did Subaru not bring these to UK market?
It's all about crossover lifestyle vehicles for Subaru UK.

They didn't want the GT86 when it came to market, I think.

Going for a service in one of the dealerships felt like getting a service from another manufacturer.
They were slightly bemused to deal with it.

It's a great looking car in that colour too.

cerb4.5lee

36,755 posts

194 months

Wednesday 30th April
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I like rare cars, and I like that blue too. Count me in.

Code Black

133 posts

63 months

Wednesday 30th April
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I think that looks proper nice, rare too and in a great colour.

Andy86GT

626 posts

79 months

Wednesday 30th April
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It's very nice in the WRC blue, but you'd need to be a real Subaru aficionado to choose this over a GR86 and the 10 year Toyota backed warranty.

Bright Halo

3,502 posts

249 months

Wednesday 30th April
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That looks great.
Well done to the seller not taking the pee on the price.

McRors

380 posts

70 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Come on Cam, it’s “there have been rumours” not “there’s been rumours”. Apologies to people who aren’t interested in grammar.

MrGRT

302 posts

177 months

Wednesday 30th April
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The other good bit of the imports is that they come without a GPF which apparently impacts the HP/Torque figures a touch.

GreatScott2016

1,837 posts

102 months

Wednesday 30th April
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“Question is, what do you do with that body kit”? Exactly, love the base car, but these add ons look a bit naff to me.

scrapped

60 posts

35 months

Wednesday 30th April
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British Beef said:
Looks sharper and better than a GR86 to my eyes!

Why did Subaru not bring these to UK market?
Subaru UK have made an awful mess of things for a long time now.

Deliberately alienating all the customers who were attracted to their sports / high performance models remains an absolutely baffling direction to take.

Baldchap

9,115 posts

106 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Andy86GT said:
It's very nice in the WRC blue, but you'd need to be a real Subaru aficionado to choose this over a GR86 and the 10 year Toyota backed warranty.
Precisely.

Almost certainly the reason it didn't get sold here in the first place. It would have to be cheap to make me want it as a new car with seven years less warranty!

Evil.soup

3,851 posts

219 months

Wednesday 30th April
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scrapped said:
British Beef said:
Looks sharper and better than a GR86 to my eyes!

Why did Subaru not bring these to UK market?
Subaru UK have made an awful mess of things for a long time now.

Deliberately alienating all the customers who were attracted to their sports / high performance models remains an absolutely baffling direction to take.
I have to agree, Subaru have made no effort to keep their original fan base/customers, but they have had their hands tied with regs. That said, they are big boys with lots of know how, if they thought there was a strong market for it, then they could have made a hot Sti within Euro emissions for the UK.

I guess they didn't want to compromise for a tiny market in world terms. The US is lapping up performance Subarus and SUV's.

Andy86GT

626 posts

79 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Subaru certainly have you covered... provided you want an SUV confused



tripleB

35 posts

102 months

Wednesday 30th April
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That’s a solid YES PLEASE from me. Like the colour, like the body kit - looks properly smart, and rarer than the Toyota so instantly cooler imo cool

Thomo97

74 posts

204 months

Wednesday 30th April
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As someone who bought an old style BRZ over a GT86 (just to be bloody minded really ...) this is very appealing!

TVRBRZ

372 posts

103 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Thomo97 said:
As someone who bought an old style BRZ over a GT86 (just to be bloody minded really ...) this is very appealing!
Same, although my motivation was a love of Scooby's so it ended up being Scooby number 3 of 5 currently.

Big shame Subaru didn't bring the mk2 to the UK, I'd have been tempted (and yes I know I could of bought a GR86 but I want Scooby no.6!)

An import BRZ or GR86 may have to replace the Evora when I'm too old and infirm to squeeze into it....

Mr Tidy

26,532 posts

141 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Maybe I'm also a bit perverse, but I'd definitely rather have that than a GR86!

It's a great colour and IMHO looks better than the Toyota with the body-kit IMHO.

Maxym

2,396 posts

250 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Looks good to me, body kit an’ all.