RE: New Toyota RAV4 GR Sport boasts up to 304hp

RE: New Toyota RAV4 GR Sport boasts up to 304hp

Wednesday 21st May

New Toyota RAV4 GR Sport boasts up to 304hp

The RAV4 desperately needed a revving up a bit - Gazoo Racing has duly supplied the tinsel


When revealing the latest version of the RAV4 in Tokyo, Toyota lent into its status as one of the industry’s original compact crossovers hard: “It was quirky. It was a bit of fun,” reckoned head of design, Simon Humphries, describing the concept reveal in 1989. “No one at the time would have thought that it was about to change the automotive world. But that's exactly what this little monocoque SUV did.” It didn’t really, of course - it was the trickle-down desirability of enormous luxury SUVs that eventually spiked an abiding interest in something smaller and more affordable - yet unquestionably it was a significant car for its maker: Toyota has reportedly sold 15 million RAV4 units in 30 years. 

So it grasped the concept of ‘everyday adventure’ well enough. But it also failed to understand the full scale of the opportunity, and entirely missed the boat when it came to building go-faster versions of its new creation. This restricted the RAV4 to a turgid progression from hairdressers’ car to school-run special over five generations, while European OEMs romped ahead with rebranded, profit-making derivatives. Now, finally, off the back of enormous strides taken by Gazoo Racing elsewhere in the mainstream, Toyota appears to have learned its lesson - behold the all-new RAV4 GR Sport. 

Now, the word ‘Sport’ there should alert you to the fact that this isn’t a pureblood GR variant in the mould of the Yaris or Corolla, and that’s likely by dint of the model’s status as a plug-in hybrid (exclusively so in the UK). But thanks to the presence of a new 22.7kWh battery and more powerful motor, in all-wheel-drive format the RAV4 is said to provide a total output of 304hp and be capable of 0-62mph in 5.8 seconds - plenty quick enough to qualify it as a fast family crossover (though admittedly we don’t know much more about the precise details of the powertrain other than it can drive for up 62 miles on electric power alone). 

If that thought doesn’t have you rushing to trade in your VW Tiguan R, then perhaps its ‘motorsport-inspired character’ will. Mr Humphries reckons the GR Sport has been extensively re-engineered during 70,000 hours of development. The flagship is 20mm wider than standard and features improved rear bracing for better rigidity, alongside a chassis that has earned uprated dampers and retuned springs. You get lighter 20-inch wheels too, and a GR-specific grille design. Inside, there are sports seats and plenty of badges to remind you that your RAV4 is part of the Gazoo Racing club. Quite how much entry will cost you in the UK isn’t yet clear, though if the sixth generation drums up anything like the response to the first, Toyota will be tickled pink.


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corcoran

Original Poster:

606 posts

287 months

Wednesday 21st May
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disappointing, this is PHEV only. Bloody Toyota!

Nik Gnashers

932 posts

169 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Great, another box on wheels, just what we need.

RichardHMorris

478 posts

103 months

Wednesday 21st May
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...and no doubt prone to falling over at the first opportunity like SUVs seem to want to do regularly (according to all those car crash videos).

SUV (especially a small one)? No thanks.

Craikeybaby

11,190 posts

238 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Not my type of car, would usually ignore it, except for the pointlessness of the GR branding.

malaccamax

1,411 posts

244 months

Wednesday 21st May
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"entirely missed the boat when it came to building go-faster versions of its new creation"

Please PH, see someone about your weird fetish for GTI versions of family SUVs.

MonteCarlos1

47 posts

8 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Might be biased as I have a 2023 Corolla Touring, but modern everyday Toyotas are a lot better than people give them credit for, not just the GR models.

Dashboards may not be the prettiest or the nicest materials, but they're extremely easy to operate. Has separate climate controls (Not sure if this RAV4 does?). Don't cut corners on the chassis of their cars, put multi link suspension on all their decent models (looking at you, Volkswagen). CVT gearbox is great, doesn't flare up the revs like the old ones used to and needs zero servicing. The speed sign recognition stays off when you switch it off. The base models have tons of equipment.

Tried a mk8 golf before I got my Corolla, difference between the two was so vast in terms of driving quality, refinement and general ergonomics it wasn't even funny.

V88Dicky

7,343 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st May
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corcoran said:
disappointing, this is PHEV only. Bloody Toyota!
Agreed. I really don’t like the idea of plugging in at the pump AND the socket. Surely the worst of both worlds?

Especially from Toyota, who are the masters of self charging hybrids. I’m increasingly impressed by my girlfriend’s Corolla hybrid, which, despite being a 2.0 petrol with nearly 200hp, never seems to drop below 55mpg. We’ve seen as high as 76mpg on a cross city journey. It’s genuinely nice to drive too, very ‘wafty’.

Leon R

3,422 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st May
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V88Dicky said:
Agreed. I really don’t like the idea of plugging in at the pump AND the socket. Surely the worst of both worlds?
Weirdly I see it as the exact opposite.

62 miles of electric range for day to day cheap motoring but no range anxiety when you want to go further.

Groaver

70 posts

46 months

Wednesday 21st May
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malaccamax said:
"entirely missed the boat when it came to building go-faster versions of its new creation"

Please PH, see someone about your weird fetish for GTI versions of family SUVs.
Right?
Another quick and great handling coupe/hatch/saloon disappears off a manufacturer's books; not to worry there'll be another 'sporty' crossover along in a minute.

steveb8189

499 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Pretty happy with my RAV4 PHEV which seems pretty much the same car. 305 bhp but a slightly smaller battery. The article reads like this is a brand new drivetrain but it really looks exactly the same as the old non-GR model

Nice car, very solid. Pretty nippy in a straight line to 50 mph but absolutely terrible around the corners.

FamousPheasant

736 posts

129 months

Wednesday 21st May
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If it's anything like it's predecessor this should be a very good car. Practical, comfortable, economical and quick. The powertain on the current gen is the best in the business and for the right use case makes an awful lot of sense.

Not a sporty PH car - and not sure on the GR badging, but copying everyone else in that regard - but it should sell well. The current gen is one of the best selling cars worldwide for good reason.

wyson

3,337 posts

117 months

Wednesday 21st May
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These are a really sensible size, not too big to be unwieldy, but big enough for most purposes, practical and fuel efficient. Just not surprised this is an international best seller for them.



6 out of the top 10 worlds best selling cars are basically crossovers that are this sort of size.

MountainsofSussex

327 posts

199 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Leon R said:
V88Dicky said:
Agreed. I really don’t like the idea of plugging in at the pump AND the socket. Surely the worst of both worlds?
Weirdly I see it as the exact opposite.

62 miles of electric range for day to day cheap motoring but no range anxiety when you want to go further.
Hybrids all depend on how you use them - if you have somewhere convenient to plug them in, generally do short journeys, but occasionally do longer journeys than are practical by pure EV, then they make sense. If you can't/ won't plug them in they're daft. If you mainly do longer journeys that need the petrol engine, they're daft. And with EVs becoming increasingly affordable and easy to live with, they look immensely complicated potential dinosaurs. In short they're the best of both worlds and the worst! My personal opinion is the M5 is the worst world. This could perhaps be great for some people

Snow and Rocks

2,816 posts

40 months

Wednesday 21st May
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steveb8189 said:
Pretty happy with my RAV4 PHEV which seems pretty much the same car. 305 bhp but a slightly smaller battery. The article reads like this is a brand new drivetrain but it really looks exactly the same as the old non-GR model

Nice car, very solid. Pretty nippy in a straight line to 50 mph but absolutely terrible around the corners.
I thought similar, pretty crap journalism (or being charitable just badly worded) but it's a bit odd framing it as some new GR performance model. It's just the a sporty trim of one of the standard Rav4 powertrain options.

I agree with your assessment of the existing car - genuinely fast, comfortable, roomy, built properly, does all the day to day stuff as a decent EV and then does a genuine 50+ mpg for low cost trips away from home.

Best all rounder we've had - it's even pretty good off road for what it is. Will be staying away from the GR when the time eventually comes though, the discreet styling, tall profile tyres and lack of sportiness are all major plus points in my mind.

The Pistonsdead

5,092 posts

220 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Leon R said:
V88Dicky said:
Agreed. I really don’t like the idea of plugging in at the pump AND the socket. Surely the worst of both worlds?
Weirdly I see it as the exact opposite.

62 miles of electric range for day to day cheap motoring but no range anxiety when you want to go further.
Fair point

AndrewNR

330 posts

135 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Looks alright for what it is - very Yaris GR from the front

ChocolateFrog

31,177 posts

186 months

Wednesday 21st May
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V88Dicky said:
corcoran said:
disappointing, this is PHEV only. Bloody Toyota!
Agreed. I really don’t like the idea of plugging in at the pump AND the socket. Surely the worst of both worlds?

Especially from Toyota, who are the masters of self charging hybrids. I’m increasingly impressed by my girlfriend’s Corolla hybrid, which, despite being a 2.0 petrol with nearly 200hp, never seems to drop below 55mpg. We’ve seen as high as 76mpg on a cross city journey. It’s genuinely nice to drive too, very ‘wafty’.
The PHEV does have it's benefits.

Driven without any specific economy focus.


Deontas

7 posts

9 months

Wednesday 21st May
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MonteCarlos1 said:
Might be biased as I have a 2023 Corolla Touring, but modern everyday Toyotas are a lot better than people give them credit for, not just the GR models.

Dashboards may not be the prettiest or the nicest materials, but they're extremely easy to operate. Has separate climate controls (Not sure if this RAV4 does?). Don't cut corners on the chassis of their cars, put multi link suspension on all their decent models (looking at you, Volkswagen). CVT gearbox is great, doesn't flare up the revs like the old ones used to and needs zero servicing. The speed sign recognition stays off when you switch it off. The base models have tons of equipment.

Tried a mk8 golf before I got my Corolla, difference between the two was so vast in terms of driving quality, refinement and general ergonomics it wasn't even funny.
Most sensible post going, I have a Corolla Excel 2.0...Simple wee car, does what its ment to do, not a badge snob, the rest of the world gets it but back in the UK Brian and Amy must have the latest German auto.....Meanwhile Toyota worldwide sail on happily outselling the "competition"

triathlonstu

333 posts

162 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Deontas said:
Most sensible post going, I have a Corolla Excel 2.0...Simple wee car, does what its ment to do, not a badge snob, the rest of the world gets it but back in the UK Brian and Amy must have the latest German auto.....Meanwhile Toyota worldwide sail on happily outselling the "competition"
I bought this very car to do about 400 miles a week of commuting in as I wanted something used that would come with a decent warranty. See over 50mpg every day without fail and it can do over 60 if I drive a bit more economically. Love the thing. Toyota servicing is a bit pricey for what it is but good for peace of mind.

The thought of a Rav with plugin that could bump those numbers up even more is really appealing.

GTRene

18,793 posts

237 months

Wednesday 21st May
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Nik Gnashers said:
Great, another box on wheels, just what we need.
Indeed and ugly in my eyes, its like they want o be dull.