RE: Actual Hopkirk-Monte Carlo Mini Cooper S for sale
RE: Actual Hopkirk-Monte Carlo Mini Cooper S for sale
Saturday 24th May

Actual Hopkirk-Monte Carlo Mini Cooper S for sale

Classic racing Minis come little more significant, famous - or valuable 


There are some victories in motorsport that transcend conventional celebration. Think of achievements like Mazda being the first Japanese manufacturer to triumph at Le Mans, a 911 winning on Dakar and that unforgettable 1955 running of the Mille Miglia for Mercedes. These are moments significant enough to become part of brand DNA, influential for decades after their occurrence. 

We’d add the 1966 Monte Carlo rally to that list as well, the event dominated by Minis. Various Coopers and Cooper Ses had been doing well on the world’s stages during the '60s, light and nimble and perfect for twisty stages, but the ‘66 Monte was something very special indeed. Running the larger 1,275cc A Series by then, Minis locked out the podium. First, second and third were taken by driver and co-driver pairs in Cooper Ses. Well, that was until third place was disqualified for a headlight issue, which it’s always suggested was a move by the French motorsport authorities to spare the domestic manufacturers the embarrassment of a Mini mauling. It promoted a Citroen to third, let’s just leave it at that…

Nevertheless, the Monte wins became part of Mini folklore, with subsequent racers in similar colour schemes and even a Paddy Hopkirk special edition as recently as 2020. You’d be forgiven for thinking that this car might be a homage to the rally cars, a tastefully executed backdate of a later 1275. But no - this is one of the competition cars. The very Mini that was disqualified from third place in 1966, with Paddy Hopkirk at the wheel and Henry Liddon on pacenotes. 

A seriously special Mini, then - with an asking price to match. GRX 5D was one of the busiest works Minis back in the day, with Timo Makinen also racing it and event finishes to its name including the Canadian Shell 4000, Circuit of Ireland and the Tulip Rally. It’s a notable enough Mini rally car to have its history documented in a book, no less, ‘Works Minis in Detail’ covering all of its achievements. 

Exactly what this Cooper S has been up to of late isn’t clear - there’s a sticker in the window for a Mini meet in 2010 - but it’s been preserved in wonderful fashion. Check out the helmets, harnesses, stopwatches and pencils for a taste of how rallying once was. The body has been confirmed as a 1968-spec shell, and a host of other bits from back then have been retained. It’s a stunning bit of rally history. 

But one that could still be used as well, if the pics and up-to-date road tax are anything to go by. And the opportunities will be considerable; there aren’t very many Paddy Hopkirk-campaigned Minis around, after all, so any historic motorsport gathering would surely love to have GRX 5D along. Whether on road or hillclimb, it promises to be an absolute joy. There’s always the Monte Carlo Historique to think about, too…


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bmv6197

Original Poster:

94 posts

119 months

Sunday 25th May
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What a cool thing…

I’m no expert on the classic race car market, but I would have thought the reshell from a mk1 to a mk2 body, and what looks like a lot of restoration work, new parts, respray etc would somewhat diminish the value versus originality and patina…

Yes, it has some old pencils (and old rear seat upholstery, surprisingly) but fresh zinc coated bolts and 2020s paintwork just don’t seem to fit.

Nice as it is, I’ll keep my imaginary £155k then..

Edited by bmv6197 on Sunday 25th May 06:10

ChevronB19

8,122 posts

179 months

Sunday 25th May
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It’s lovely, but it isn’t the 66 car, it’s had a re shell and identity transfer.

Landing Light On

16 posts

24 months

Sunday 25th May
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It’s like Trigger’s broom!

NGK210

3,998 posts

161 months

Sunday 25th May
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Props to the trader for not POAing.
A wonderful car, obviously. But it does have a distinct whiff of Theseus’s ship.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,568 posts

59 months

Sunday 25th May
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That car has changed hands a lot. Used to belong to Tom Turkington in his fabulous mini collection in Northern Ireland. Saw it a few times.

ferret50

2,306 posts

25 months

Sunday 25th May
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Wot's a Cooper Ses?

Shirly, or even surely, the plural is Cooper S's?

Sloppy proof reading, yet again!

Blackpuddin

18,300 posts

221 months

Sunday 25th May
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ferret50 said:
Wot's a Cooper Ses?

Shirly, or even surely, the plural is Cooper S's?

Sloppy proof reading, yet again!
An apostrophe should never be used to denote plurality.

GreatScott2016

1,920 posts

104 months

Sunday 25th May
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That is cool, looks like you could pop that in the boot of a modern mini!

Olivergt

2,010 posts

97 months

Sunday 25th May
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Blackpuddin said:
ferret50 said:
Wot's a Cooper Ses?

Shirly, or even surely, the plural is Cooper S's?

Sloppy proof reading, yet again!
An apostrophe should never be used to denote plurality.
So what's the correct way of spelling it?

Cooper S'

This website seems to imply "es" is correct?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/what-happe...

Billy_Whizzzz

2,366 posts

159 months

Sunday 25th May
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ferret50 said:
Wot's a Cooper Ses?

Shirly, or even surely, the plural is Cooper S's?

Sloppy proof reading, yet again!
Sloppy apostrophe use.

cml

726 posts

278 months

Sunday 25th May
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I was lucky enouogh to meet Paddy a few times (I tagged along on trips to FI to shooze business partners as a +1, thanks dad). I found him to be a lovable rogue. He flirted with my girlfriend, told cheeky stories and was a gracious host who could mix with anybody. Had a signed picture of himself with the Beatles in his downstairs loo (well why not?). One one trip we had a lunch out and, wanting a glass or too, asked me to drive him home in his new Mini, the relaunched one had just been released and he was part of BMW's PR machine so was given one of the first in the UK. Nervous? Oh yes. He asked me in all honesty how I thought it drove. Top man.


Edited by cml on Sunday 25th May 10:19

Deansfield

261 posts

120 months

Sunday 25th May
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cml said:
I was lucky enouogh to meet Paddy a few times (I tagged along on trips to FI to shooze business partners as a +1, thanks dad). I found him to be a lovable rogue. He flirted with my girlfriend, told cheeky stories and was a gracious host who could mix with anybody. Had a signed picture of himself with the Beatles in his downstairs loo (well why not?). One one trip we had a lunch out and, wanting a glass or too, asked me to drive him home in his new Mini, the relaunched one had just been released and he was part of BMW's PR machine so was given one of the first in the UK. Nervous? Oh yes. He asked me in all honesty how I thought it drove. Top man.

What a lovely experience

Edited by cml on Sunday 25th May 10:19

WPA

12,202 posts

130 months

Sunday 25th May
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Nice car but Trigger’s broom

Bluevanman

8,622 posts

209 months

Sunday 25th May
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Landing Light On said:
It’s like Trigger’s broom!
A lot of that went on back in the day in racing circles.Shell swaps,engine swaps,the only constant being the reg number and ultimately that's what people are paying the premium for

Scrump

23,488 posts

174 months

Sunday 25th May
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I hope the headlight has been fixed.

FourWheelDrift

91,048 posts

300 months

Sunday 25th May
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bmv6197 said:
What a cool thing…

I’m no expert on the classic race car market, but I would have thought the reshell from a mk1 to a mk2 body, and what looks like a lot of restoration work, new parts, respray etc would somewhat diminish the value versus originality and patina…

Yes, it has some old pencils (and old rear seat upholstery, surprisingly) but fresh zinc coated bolts and 2020s paintwork just don’t seem to fit.

Nice as it is, I’ll keep my imaginary £155k then..

Edited by bmv6197 on Sunday 25th May 06:10
But it's not a recent reshell, it was reshelled in 1967 following accident damage.

Blackpuddin

18,300 posts

221 months

Sunday 25th May
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Olivergt said:
Blackpuddin said:
ferret50 said:
Wot's a Cooper Ses?

Shirly, or even surely, the plural is Cooper S's?

Sloppy proof reading, yet again!
An apostrophe should never be used to denote plurality.
So what's the correct way of spelling it?

Cooper S'

This website seems to imply "es" is correct?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/what-happe...
I'm going with Ses as correct.

V8rumble

61 posts

218 months

Sunday 25th May
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Whizzo Williams went for a sensible price not so long ago and was probably more genuine

grumpy52

5,842 posts

182 months

Sunday 25th May
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Very very few competition cars with great results history will be totally original . If it's still got the spirit and soul of the original it's good enough for me . Value wise they are worth what someone is prepared to pay for them .

Augustus Windsock

3,641 posts

171 months

Sunday 25th May
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For those of you old enough to remember both ST Tuning and the magazine’Car & Car Conversions, then waaay back when BL (?) was doing the ST Mini tuning stuff, they prepped a car to do a recce on the Monte iirc
Anyhoo, fast forward a few decades and it lives near me.
Original drivers seat, steering wheel, engine block, head and gearbox.
The original shell died years ago and the original flywheel lives a few miles further away.
The guy with the Mini told me the owner of the flywheel won’t sell it to him (I may have got this slightly wrong and the other chap owns both the gearbox and flywheel)
So in essence, it’s a well-known car, but as the chap says, it’s not original anymore.
Oh and he’s got several ex-works blocks and heads in his garage too.