RE: Is this the last truly great, rear-drive M car?
RE: Is this the last truly great, rear-drive M car?
Wednesday 28th May

Is this the last truly great, rear-drive M car?

You already know what it looks like - time to find out what's underneath the second-generation M2 CS


BMW has a proven record of keeping us - the great unwashed enthusiast - entertained with the M2. It likes to talk about the ‘prestigious lineage’ that can be traced all the way back to the 2002 Turbo, but if you were 20 when that car first appeared at the Frankfurt show, you’re 72 now - so a more reasonable touchstone is the 1 Series M Coupe that appeared to a clamorous reception in 2011. Intentionally built as a cult classic, the car was several notches below perfect, yet its genius was plain for all to see: by combining a stocky RWD chassis with a throaty straight six and manual gearbox, BMW had happened upon a recipe that appealed to its core audience in a way that the increasingly large and sophisticated M3 did not. 

For many, it was the ghost of the E46 meets turbocharging - little wonder it dramatically exceeded BMW’s sales expectations. It was replaced by the better-resolved M2 in 2015 (which spawned the previous 450hp CS in 2019), followed by the current-generation version in 2023. That model, you won’t fail to remember, reached 480hp during its last refresh. Now it too gets a CS derivative, which for 2025 delivers 530hp - 20hp more than the G80 M3 Competition did when it arrived back in 2020. And nearly 200hp more than the 1M Coupe. If that sounds to you like BMW M going all in on the concept of its rear-drive tearaway, you’re not wrong. 

It certainly seems to well understand what the core purpose of the new model is: another benchmark when it comes to the ‘essence of sheer driving pleasure’ is promised, even if BMW has opted to do away with the option of a six-speed manual. The CS is said to be around 30kg lighter than the conventional M2 thanks mostly to greater use of CFRP in its construction - most notably in that ducktail spoiler which has been ‘seamlessly integrated’ into the carbon fibre boot lid - and the standard fitment of Golden Bronze 19-/20-inch forged light-alloy wheels. 

It was inevitable that the lightest M2 of its generation would be combined with the largest output, though its proximity to the M3 CS - just 20hp shy and now with the same 479lb ft of torque available between 2,650rpm and 5,730rpm - shows just how closely related the models are in BMW’s reasoning. At any rate, the firm is promising sharper characteristics from the familiar 3.0-litre unit thanks to model-specific accelerator mapping across all drive modes, not to mention a 0-to-62mph time of 3.8 seconds - 0.2 seconds faster than its sibling and landing the exclusively eight-speed M2 in the sub-four-second club for the first time. 

Additionally, BMW suggests it has increased the spring rates on the engine mounting for a more rigid connection - another telltale sign that the CS is going to arrive with the sort of leash-straining energy that makes a 50-75mph time of 3.4 seconds seem endlessly achievable. The M Driver’s Package (standard on the CS) means top speed is electronically limited to 188mph, although it’s worth mentioning that anyone seeking a ‘more aggressive soundscape’ will need to select the specially designed titanium exhaust system from the M Performance parts catalogue. So expect that to be a popular option. 

In chassis terms, the CS is lowered by 8mm compared to standard, and receives bespoke tuning for the springs, dampers, and control systems. Additionally, the steering, diff, and M Compound braking system (carbon ceramics are also extra) have been given a model-specific refresh, with the DSC better optimised for life on the track - though you also get BMW’s Track mode, which accesses the ten-stage M Traction Control for a more nuanced tailoring of assistance levels. Naturally, all of this is managed via the very latest M-specific Curved Display layout, meaning you get the same 12.3- and 14.9-inch screens that arrived in the wider M2 refresh, powered by BMW’s OS 8.5. 

Elsewhere inside, the devil is in the detail: the centre console is now constructed entirely from CFRP, as are the bucket seats, which, as you might expect, now get an illuminated CS badge to complement the Merino leather. The same lettering is dotted around the cabin - not least in the door panels, where it is also lit up - and you get a heated M Alcantara steering wheel to go with the equally nice-to-touch anthracite headliner. Externally, there are four colours to choose from: Sapphire Black, M Brooklyn Grey, M Portimao Blue, and Individual Velvet Blue. Without going into specific detail, BMW says track tyres are standard, though sports tyres are a no-cost option. A set of ‘ultra-track’ rubber will cost you extra. 

Speaking of cost, the new M2 CS starts at £86,800. For those who like their large numbers supplied with context, the current M2 is £68,705 before ticking, and the previous CS was £75,320 back in 2020. An M4 Competition with all-wheel drive and the same 530hp output is £91,325. A Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 - now 130hp down on its rival, though very nearly as quick with the PDK - is £75,300. This is likely all of passing interest to anyone who fell in love with the ducktail at first sight on Friday. We certainly wouldn’t blame you: the new CS sits at the end of a very long line of exemplary rear-drive M cars, and its status among them is almost assured on that basis - especially as its production will be time-limited. Expect first customer deliveries at the end of the summer. Expect a mighty big queue, too. 


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wistec1

Original Poster:

637 posts

57 months

Tuesday 27th May
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Now't that a good angle grinder along with some body filler and paint can't sort out.

That under coat should have been finished in a nice metalic before BMWs rush to show the world yet another design turd they have signed off on.

It seems to me that BMW are lost in a design maze from which they can't find a way out despite hearing the millions of voices telling them were the exit is.


David87

6,891 posts

228 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Those add-on M Performance parts are annoying. Shouldn’t your top-of-the-range £87k 1 Series not already come with all the performance bits? hehe

Interesting car though and I’m sure it’ll be fantastic overall.

Terminator X

17,946 posts

220 months

Wednesday 28th May
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The last M3cs? 1575kg's and close to 500hp.

TX.

ITP

2,240 posts

213 months

Wednesday 28th May
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The answer to the question, for me, is ‘No’.

m62tu

85 posts

55 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Why is BMW being cheap, not offering proper 4 piston stoppers at the rear with nice calipers. For 87k.

andrewpandrew

883 posts

5 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Much like the GRY, pig ugly but likely very good to drive.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,366 posts

159 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Loving the colour, liking the looks, hating the interior.

Gecko1978

11,595 posts

173 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Like this alot it might be the best last ice car...might.

josh00mac

396 posts

124 months

Wednesday 28th May
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No it won’t be the last. Customers have voted, and they are not interested in alternative power performance cars. We’ve probably lost the manual for good but ice will continue for a while.

theicemario

1,244 posts

91 months

Wednesday 28th May
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1700 kg before you’ve sat in it. Definitely no CSL

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/united-kingdom/arti...

Twinair

889 posts

158 months

Wednesday 28th May
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I’m hoping that the negative slant of most of these comments mean I am at the front of the line for one of these..!

I had an M2 Comp in 2019, list was around £55k at that time.

One of these for £85k? 130bhp up - okay no manual or sunset orange to be had, but this is quite a thing, these are great numbers - it will be a stonking little whip.

I never really gelled with my M4 Comp Xdrive - but it went like a scalded rat - and had less power than this + heavier…

Only £30k more than my 2019 car + CS + new..?

I will try to get one…

My ‘ugly’ GRY may have to go…

blasos

413 posts

178 months

Wednesday 28th May
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1775 kg? A cool ~400 kg heavier than the E46 CSL. Wow.

fantheman80

2,054 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Needs a set of spacers but like that a lot

GreatScott2016

1,920 posts

104 months

Wednesday 28th May
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The stance over the stock M2 is certainly enhanced and the performance numbers are fantastic. I don’t think the price is horrific even if you add in some tasty options given the overall package. When the standard car was launched, I did place an order but had to cancel it as Mrs S hated the look with a passion and said I’d have to be bonkers mad to trade my OG M2 for one, a divorce would have followed hehe . As for the CS, probably never see one, even the standard car is a rare sight where we live. For the lucky 100, go and enjoy it, even if it isn’t a manual driving

biggbn

27,610 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Brilliant

Jake899

569 posts

60 months

Wednesday 28th May
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It's great to have ICE cars like this still available.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could have reverse options lists on cars?
The illuminating badges? tick NO for that.
Save 2000£ and half a kilo.
Heated steering wheel? Tick NO
save 500£ and 200g.
Electric adjustable seats? hell NO
save 1000£ and 4kg.
etc etc etc until I get the actual car I want weighs 1200kg and costs 45k.

cerb4.5lee

37,884 posts

196 months

Wednesday 28th May
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I would love a go in this. driving

Ed Banger

1,620 posts

224 months

Wednesday 28th May
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I like the look of it, which is something I haven't said about a new BMW since a long time.

Probably too tech heavy for me so would stick with a Cayman 4.0 given the choice. Funny how a duck tail can cure a right munter.

Chris Peacock

3,261 posts

150 months

Wednesday 28th May
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josh00mac said:
No it won’t be the last. Customers have voted, and they are not interested in alternative power performance cars. We’ve probably lost the manual for good but ice will continue for a while.
I wouldn't be so confident. I'll be very surprised if the next generation of M2 (if there is one) doesn't have at least a hybrid powertrain, if not full EV.

For that reason this should definitely be celebrated, even if the looks are a little 'challenging'. Like a lot of new BMWs I'd need to have a black one, to make it less noticable.


soad

34,029 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th May
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Do like it, but not in a primer grey. Dashboard seems unnecessary large too…