RE: Maybe the best thing ever for sale

RE: Maybe the best thing ever for sale

Monday 16th June

Maybe the best thing ever for sale

It's easy to feel jaded about cars in 2025. Here's a Stratos-shaped pick-me-up...



It is virtually a given at PH that if there is a Lancia Stratos for sale in the classifieds, we’ll make a point of telling you about it. Yes, because they are very rare and expensive. And incredible to look at and to hear running. But also because they tend to evoke a certain sort of response from anyone who is even a little bit obsessive about cars. To paraphrase Seth in Superbad, staring at a Stratos, for long enough to appreciate the shape Marcello Gandini spirited into existence, is like the first time you heard the Beatles. Life-changing might be overstating it. Or it might not. 

At any rate, looking at this one felt like a wonderful way to kick off a Monday - not least a Monday that followed an Italian team winning Le Mans in a privately entered Ferrari. Maranello, of course, was famously persuaded to provide the Dino V6 for use in the Stratos, which was built from the ground up to win rallies. Which it did, famously bagging three consecutive World Rally Championships from 1974 to 1976. The subsequent homologated road car production, itself the subject of more than a few fireside myths, barely numbered 500 cars. There are many fewer survivors now, none of them cheap. 

Nor is this example, though behind its ‘1977 spec’ description is (we're guessing) a years-long build story that seems to have only been recently completed. Which is to say that its Historical Technical Passport - the FIA’s seal of approval - only appeared in February of this year. That would seem to be just reward for a car apparently assembled with fanatical attention to detail, using body panels reportedly crafted from the original Italian tooling. It's probably as close as you'll get to a Group 4 works car without a time machine and Cesare Fiorio's phone number.

Underneath, as you might expect, it reads like a middle-aged man’s letter to Santa. The 2.4-litre Dino is fitted with ported and gas-flowed cylinder heads featuring 45mm inlet valves and 39mm exhaust valves. High-compression pistons, an Arrow steel crankshaft, and connecting rods ensure this isn't merely for show. Breathing through a trio of Weber 44 IDF carburettors and fitted with a lightened flywheel, this is a V6 very much built to sing its operatic aria across special stages.

The chassis is equally serious. Fully rose-jointed suspension, Bilstein dampers with ride-height adjustment, and Eibach adjustable anti-roll bars front and rear are backed by strengthened lower arms and Group 4-spec track-control arms up front, alongside alloy hub carriers and beefed-up wishbones and radius arms at the rear. Throw in the kind of high-ratio steering you need to catch the pendulum-like oversteer and four-piston calipers to slow it down, and you’ve got everything you need for historic rallying. 

Or just for staring at, frankly. The 15-inch Campagnolo-style magnesium wheels are hand-bitingly gorgeous, the nods to Jolly Club pitch-perfect, and probably we’d pay good money to just sit in the Recaro buckets, flipping switches, and fingering the integrated roll cage. But that would be wrong. Every Stratos was built to fulfil its God-given mission, and this one is certainly no different. Ultimately, you’ll need to find £385,000 to make it yours, and then locate the guts to put it sideways on gravel somewhere. That makes the buying audience fairly niche, if not its list of admirers. Happy Monday, everyone. 


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S600BSB

Original Poster:

6,578 posts

120 months

Monday 16th June
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Wow - what a wonderful thing.

hammo19

6,375 posts

210 months

Monday 16th June
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Fabulous

soad

33,888 posts

190 months

Monday 16th June
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That sure looks fun. driving

Spidermoor

21 posts

21 months

Monday 16th June
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Fantastic. £385k doesn't seem excessive compared to some exotica on here, especially when Mk1 Escorts are reaching £100k.

Twoshoe

943 posts

198 months

Monday 16th June
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Spidermoor said:
Fantastic. £385k doesn't seem excessive compared to some exotica on here, especially when Mk1 Escorts are reaching £100k.
Just what I was thinking. And how refreshing that it's not POA.

wistec1

617 posts

55 months

Monday 16th June
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Ditto above. Luuuuuuuvly

ducnick

2,046 posts

257 months

Monday 16th June
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That’s one for the fantasy garage to live alongside the blower Bentley and the Maserati 450s

Like the others said, the price seems almost reasonable in today’s world of £200k resto mod ford escorts and million pound supercars. I can’t help thinking this would be much more fun in the real world than a Lamborghini or pagani, it would also be far more exclusive round Monaco.

cerb4.5lee

36,993 posts

194 months

Monday 16th June
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I had a model car version of these as a kid, and I used to spend hours pretending to race it around the edges of my bed. Fond memories for sure. I'd absolutely love a go in a real one. driving

Bonefish Blues

31,703 posts

237 months

Monday 16th June
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I'm wondering if the asking price even covers the build cost?

TheMilkyBarKid

738 posts

43 months

Monday 16th June
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Lottery win car right there for me, I’ve always loved them. Used to have a Tandy RC one as a kid. Like others I’m a little bit surprised it isn’t up for more, the last few I’ve seen seemed to be closer to £450-500K?

RabidGranny

2,177 posts

152 months

Monday 16th June
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Echoing previous comments, I did expect 7 figures as an asking price.

Dare i say it, this looks good value.

samoht

6,586 posts

160 months

Monday 16th June
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I can't work out whether this thing is capable of being road-registered, or would fall foul of modern standards it was never designed to meet.

CH80

126 posts

11 months

Monday 16th June
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Stunning. I would, if I could.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,363 posts

112 months

Monday 16th June
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My father had one back in the day, which he eventually replaced with an 037 and then an S4.

His was a "plain" road version, which IMHO looks the best. Until you see one in the flesh, few people realize just how small it is.

It is a very crude thing to live with - hot, noisy, cramped, no ventilation - which explains why Lancia struggled to sell them. Not that fast by today's standards and the handling can be lively at times. Absolutely no fun on a long motorway journey, as I can attest. Haven't had anything to so with them in decades - there used to be a guy in Hong Kong ( Tommi Popper ? ) who had a huge collection of them.....

GreatScott2016

1,852 posts

102 months

Monday 16th June
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While I always thought that the looks were slightly challenging, there is no denying that this is a true rally icon. This particular one does look lovely though in those colours, and as others have said, the price is not outrageous! cool

Lotusgone

1,476 posts

141 months

Monday 16th June
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
My father had one back in the day, which he eventually replaced with an 037 and then an S4.

His was a "plain" road version, which IMHO looks the best. Until you see one in the flesh, few people realize just how small it is.

It is a very crude thing to live with - hot, noisy, cramped, no ventilation - which explains why Lancia struggled to sell them. Not that fast by today's standards and the handling can be lively at times. Absolutely no fun on a long motorway journey, as I can attest. Haven't had anything to so with them in decades - there used to be a guy in Hong Kong ( Tommi Popper ? ) who had a huge collection of them.....
Nearest experience for me was as a Sporting Bears passenger in a Hawk replica. Good fun for 15 minutes as a passenger and they are gorgeous to look at - but (possibly) as with a supermodel, a right bugger to live with.

Does that stop me following any Stratos thread? Absolutely not.



CKY

2,257 posts

29 months

Monday 16th June
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Spidermoor said:
Fantastic. £385k doesn't seem excessive compared to some exotica on here, especially when Mk1 Escorts are reaching £100k.
Same - it seems foolish to call this 'good value', however £385k on this or another special-badged Porsche 911? No contest.

I did ponder getting a Stratos when I bought my 246GTS 40+ years ago, however the styling of the Dino won me over.

Mark-C

6,549 posts

219 months

Monday 16th June
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Those wheels cloud9

And everything else as well!

Snubs

1,293 posts

153 months

Monday 16th June
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Coincidentally I was at the Classic Motor Hub yesterday and saw this in person:



I only found one POA car out of the couple of dozen they have.

Going round these cars with my dad the Stratos didn't get that much attention. My dad obsessed over an old Riley they've got and we both had a lot of time for the Jaguar SS you can just see on the right hand side of that photo. But the car we spend the most time looking at was this 1905 Isotta Fraschini Fiat:



You could spend hours pouring over everything from the two massive chains driving the wheels through to working out what the various levers do, how on earth you might actually get it to move and then, how you might get it to stop when there're no front brakes. It's got a 16.6 litre, six cylinder engine! Details: https://classicmotorhub.com/isotta-fraschini-fiat-...

DonkeyApple

62,316 posts

183 months

Monday 16th June
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Spidermoor said:
Fantastic. £385k doesn't seem excessive compared to some exotica on here, especially when Mk1 Escorts are reaching £100k.
The reason why it hasn't sold though is because £400k is excessive as it's not a Lancia Stratos. It's a not expense spared recreation, someone's great passion but to the next owner there is no passion from creating it and it's really just a wonderful facsimile of something of great value, history and desire.

It'll eventually sell but all indications to date are that it won't be at the price that keeps being asked for it.