RE: Gordon Murray 'Special Vehicles' set for Monterey
RE: Gordon Murray 'Special Vehicles' set for Monterey
Monday 16th June

Gordon Murray 'Special Vehicles' set for Monterey

With T.50 production nearing its conclusion, GMA heats up new skunkworks division for California...


No supercar or hypercar line-up worth its salt is complete these days without an enormous array of customisation possibilities. Whether it’s Aston Martin’s Q Division or Porsche Sonderwunsch, these sub-divisions are on hand for whatever the customer has in mind; whether it’s a unique paint colour or a total one-off build, they can accommodate. Heaven forbid you take your wildest dreams to the aftermarket… 

Now the Gordon Murray Group has an equivalent, just in case its extraordinary V12s weren’t special enough. The recently announced Special Vehicles division will show its first pair of projects at Monterey Car Week in August, promising that ‘the Gordon Murray ethos of lightweight design and engineering art design is at the heart of both new vehicles.’

They’re going to be quite different vehicles, too, the first said to be a custom commission (presumably of the T.50, as the final examples will be made in July), with the other designed in-house by the Gordon Murray Special Vehicles Team. 

Quite what form they will take isn’t clear for the moment, though such is the crazy calibre of cars at Monterey that it’ll need to be something very special to stand out. Think McLaren X1, Tuthill’s GT One, and the Pininfarina Targamerica as recent examples of Car Week showstoppers. We’re going to assume a V12 and a manual, as they’ve become Gordon Murray calling cards, but wouldn’t like to guess much more beyond that. As the opening gambit for GMSV, it’s surely going to be spectacular. And loud. 

Monterey forms part of a busy summer for the Gordon Murray Group; the man and his six decades of work are being celebrated at the Festival of Speed this year. The sculpture outside Goodwood House will pay homage to Murray’s achievements, and the key models from his incredible career - including Grand Prix racers, the F1, the LCC Rocket, and the latest GMAs - will be on display. 

Murray said of the upcoming events: “I can barely believe it’s been 60 years I’ve been designing and engineering race and road cars – I can’t wait to reminisce with the thousands of fans at the Goodwood Festival of Speed. The Gordon Murray Special Vehicles double debut that follows just a month later will offer customers old and new even more ways to be part of our celebration of cars and driving.” It’s now less than a month until FoS, and The Quail on August 15th will be here before you know it…


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Frimley111R

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So many amazing cars there

Noe

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299 months

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Gordon flying the flag. Wonderful. If not driving then he be walking 😅

Ray_Aber

656 posts

292 months

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The one styling feature I would have changed on the T50 would have been to give it a lower front jaw, something achieved simply by painting the lower half of the front in the same colour as the body, rather than black.

While I'm not sure I would have chosen green to match silver, as in the photo above, it does fill the gap somewhat, which helps the looks.

Clearly an "SV" mod I'm never going to deploy!

dodgydelboy75000

28 posts

110 months

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Really don’t like these. Just don’t look super enough for me. Sorry.

sgtbash

748 posts

152 months

Monday 16th June
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I read that as Mansory then! Thought it was April Fools!

The Pistonsdead

5,402 posts

223 months

Monday 16th June
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Frimley111R said:
So many amazing cars there
Agreed smile

Motormouth88

620 posts

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dodgydelboy75000 said:
Really don t like these. Just don t look super enough for me. Sorry.
I agree, aesthetically they don’t do it for me, and I’m not someone who goes in for the ‘in your face’ styling of Lambo or Ferrari etc, but I adore how analogue it is so I can overlook the rather featureless bodywork…not that any of this matters as I’m about as skint as skint gets

loveice

663 posts

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Just hope he would employ a few proper automotive designer rather than totally engineering based…

disco666

395 posts

162 months

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It's such a shame GMA have stuck to the very high end, limited supply side of things.
It would be great to see them carry their ethos on to something more mainstream, around £100,000.

ManyMotors

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If Gordy can sell them, he should. But his retro efforts do not offer the performance of modern vehicles.

Ray_Aber

656 posts

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ManyMotors said:
If Gordy can sell them, he should. But his retro efforts do not offer the performance of modern vehicles.
Hmm, I'm not sure about that. It depends how you measure "performance". If it's all about 0-60, then it's only better than about 95% of modern vehicles. However, if you bring lap times into play, cornering force, top speed, then I would contend that it's in the top 1% of available cars.

The power to weight ratio is massive on this car - well in excess of a Bugatti Veyron for example. What this car has, though, is lightness. Being less than one ton in weight is stunning for a modern car. This brings agility as well as acceleration.

I get the "retro" vibes on the style, but the car itself is anything but retro. I think it's classically very attractive, edged out only by the T33.

leglessAlex

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disco666 said:
It would be great to see them carry their ethos on to something more mainstream, around £100,000.
I agree, but why would he bother?

A £100k car would mean compromising what the car could be, and then having to wade through loads of rubbish to do with things like pricing of switches and seats and supply contracts and all the other stuff that comes with making lots of something.

Unless I’ve got the wrong end of the stick, none of this stuff floats GMs boat, so he isn’t going to bother.

Of course, because it’ll never happen it opens the debate to whether it could actually happen, whether GMA would even be able to do it at all. We’ll never know.

Panamax

6,561 posts

50 months

Monday 16th June
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disco666 said:
It would be great to see them carry their ethos on to something more mainstream, around £100,000.
It must be time for a "new TVR".

Motormouth88

620 posts

76 months

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disco666 said:
It's such a shame GMA have stuck to the very high end, limited supply side of things.
It would be great to see them carry their ethos on to something more mainstream, around £100,000.
But then he’d be accused of diluting his brand, you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t

928GT-tastic

17 posts

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leglessAlex said:
I agree, but why would he bother?

A £100k car would mean compromising what the car could be, and then having to wade through loads of rubbish to do with things like pricing of switches and seats and supply contracts and all the other stuff that comes with making lots of something.

Unless I ve got the wrong end of the stick, none of this stuff floats GMs boat, so he isn t going to bother.

Of course, because it ll never happen it opens the debate to whether it could actually happen, whether GMA would even be able to do it at all. We ll never know.

928GT-tastic

17 posts

107 months

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I believe he started a collab with Japanese firm to produce cheaper sub-100K sports cars. They pulled out. Wonder why.. somebody will correct me/update on my comment

leglessAlex said:
I agree, but why would he bother?

A £100k car would mean compromising what the car could be, and then having to wade through loads of rubbish to do with things like pricing of switches and seats and supply contracts and all the other stuff that comes with making lots of something.

Unless I ve got the wrong end of the stick, none of this stuff floats GMs boat, so he isn t going to bother.

Of course, because it ll never happen it opens the debate to whether it could actually happen, whether GMA would even be able to do it at all. We ll never know.

Benzinaio

341 posts

18 months

Tuesday 17th June
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I maintain that the front end end is a bit MR2. Bring back pop up headlights for supercars I say.

Frimley111R

Original Poster:

17,222 posts

250 months

Tuesday 17th June
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disco666 said:
It's such a shame GMA have stuck to the very high end, limited supply side of things.
It would be great to see them carry their ethos on to something more mainstream, around £100,000.
That's a huge step into the mainstream automotive market though, competing with Lotus, Alpine, Porsche, etc and those companies are massive. You need lots of showroom, staff, marketing, etc. not to mention LOTS of money.

Phobos50

152 posts

50 months

Tuesday 17th June
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928GT-tastic said:
I believe he started a collab with Japanese firm to produce cheaper sub-100K sports cars. They pulled out. Wonder why.. somebody will correct me/update on my comment.
It was the Yamaha Sports Concept - being discussed on the other GM thread. Lightweight, compact, affordable... unfortunately Yamaha decided to pull out of any planned 4 wheel projects and concentrate on their core businesses.



Edited by Phobos50 on Tuesday 17th June 09:44

Fetchez la vache

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230 months

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I just wanted to say what a wonderful pic the lead shot is of the T50. It doesn't usually float my boat if I'm honest, but that one looks rather fabulous.