RE: Oh shame: Mustang Mach-E falls short at Pikes Peak
RE: Oh shame: Mustang Mach-E falls short at Pikes Peak
Monday 23rd June

Oh shame: Mustang Mach-E falls short at Pikes Peak

Electric 'Super' Mustang beaten into second place by V6-powered, flyweight prototype. Buono! 


Ford hasn’t had it all its own way at Pikes Peak. But when the F-150 Lightning SuperTruck won the Race To The Clouds last year (with Romain Dumas driving) you did start to worry for the hill climb’s future, particularly with regard to its famously broad-minded Unlimited division, which does what it says on the tin. Sure, the SuperTruck wasn’t the quickest thing ever recorded - but with that claim to fame safely in the hands of VW thanks to the spectacular sub-8-minute I.D. R run in 2018 (also Dumas), the idea that the world’s most famous hillclimb might end up solely the preserve of battery-powered machinery was not a particularly cheery thought. 

And with the firm returning to Colorado in 2025 with the Ford Performance Super Mustang Mach-E Electric Demonstrator, a car that it promised would be ‘leaner, lighter and with a new kind of edge’, it seemed like the tipping point might already have arrived. After all, here was another three-motor, +1,400hp monster capable of generating more than three tonnes of downforce at 150mph - what hope anything else? ‘We come to Pikes Peak to win,’ said Ford. ‘And the electric platform is the way to do it.’ 

Well, not this year. Granted, the event was effectively running at half mast thanks to high winds further up the mountain, but regardless, the Dumas and his winged, lighter-by-100kg Mustang Mach-E could only manage second place overall. Even better, it wasn’t beaten by another major OEM-sponsored EV, but by an Italian chap driving a little-known French prototype powered by a conventional V6 - Sacrebleu! 

Okay, so Simone Faggioli is an 11-time European Hill Climb champion and Nova Proto is an internationally renowned builder of specialised hill climb cars - and the NP01 is its flagship model, and is said to be powered in this instance by an 800hp bi-turbo V6 - but still. Internal combustion (and watching the video above, you’ll certainly hear fuel and air being mixed and combusted at a frenetic rate) defeating the dreary movement of electrons between battery terminals is always a satisfying moment. Probably just a blip in a timeline that ends with EV domination at Pikes Peak, of course - but congratulations to Faggioli on his first outright title and to the 500ish-kilogram car that got him there. 


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Motormouth88

Original Poster:

676 posts

80 months

Monday 23rd June
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That wing is next level ridiculous

Wadeski

8,766 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd June
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Motormouth88 said:
That wing is next level ridiculous
It makes the Suziki Escudo Pikes Peak from Gran Turismo 2 look like a tasteful "M-sport" package hehe

Gecko1978

12,136 posts

177 months

Monday 23rd June
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Why no pics of the car that actually won not the one that came 1st last

Super Sonic

11,274 posts

74 months

Monday 23rd June
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Motormouth88 said:
That wing is next level ridiculous
It's not for show. The cars climb to an elevation of 1440m, and the air gets thin.

Marc H

259 posts

174 months

Monday 23rd June
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PH, when you say OEM-sponsored - do you mean original equipment manufacturers? Or car brands?

The Pistonsdead

5,887 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd June
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Wadeski said:
Motormouth88 said:
That wing is next level ridiculous
It makes the Suziki Escudo Pikes Peak from Gran Turismo 2 look like a tasteful "M-sport" package hehe
Aghhh remember that mean machine

Nick928

363 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd June
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Having driven this in a road car at road speeds the drop offs are buttock clenchingly scary in many places.
The bravery and skill is beyond belief.
Respect to all those taking part and long live PP.

Possibly an interesting point (or maybe not) the finish line this year looks like the half way point where you’re stopped on the way down in a road car to have the temperature of your brakes checked by a park ranger.
If you’re over temperature you have to pull over and wait for your brakes to cool. It’s a mad place!

Sheepshanks

38,498 posts

139 months

Monday 23rd June
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Marc H said:
PH, when you say OEM-sponsored - do you mean original equipment manufacturers? Or car brands?
The OEM in this case is Ford.

ridds

8,357 posts

264 months

Monday 23rd June
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No mention of Damien Bradley from the UK who was there???

https://www.youtube.com/live/IUft3jjLfQs?si=LasnG3...

Maccmike8

1,448 posts

74 months

Monday 23rd June
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This pleases me.

BVB

1,183 posts

173 months

Monday 23rd June
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American junk.

Terminator X

18,891 posts

224 months

Monday 23rd June
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Super Sonic said:
Motormouth88 said:
That wing is next level ridiculous
It's not for show. The cars climb to an elevation of 1440m, and the air gets thin.
EV should have a massive advantage then whistle

TX.

blearyeyedboy

6,688 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd June
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Gecko1978 said:
Why no pics of the car that actually won not the one that came 1st last
This. So much this!

I'm disappointed.

Angelo1985

627 posts

46 months

Monday 23rd June
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Petty article.

daqinggregg

5,335 posts

149 months

Tuesday 24th June
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Someone give Michelle Mouton a call, give her the keys/USB, I’m sure she will get it in first place, she did last time!

fantheman80

2,269 posts

69 months

Tuesday 24th June
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"oh Shame" tell us how you really feel PH smile - Careful though, ford might not invite you to the next EV Cortina launch

spikyone

1,824 posts

120 months

Tuesday 24th June
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Wadeski said:
Motormouth88 said:
That wing is next level ridiculous
It makes the Suziki Escudo Pikes Peak from Gran Turismo 2 look like a tasteful "M-sport" package hehe
You realise that was a real car right? And that it was called Pikes Peak because it was designed for the Pikes Peak hill climb, which is what this article is about?



As others have said, it's a shame that despite the Mustang being beaten, this car still reads like more of a Ford press release and there are no pictures of the car that actually won. A strange editorial choice.

Sporky

9,583 posts

84 months

Tuesday 24th June
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There is a video of the winning run, with a picture of the car on the title image.

I don't see why people can't be impressed by both, though the writer was certainly poisoning the well.

PSB1967

394 posts

176 months

Tuesday 24th June
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The winning video was cool, shows the driver really can drive.

But the elephant in the room for me is the shortened course. Altitude effects ICE, even with forced induction. There's still more than double the altitude to go if the full course was open. But as said by others, I like both and am just happy the spectacle of Pikes still exists in our risk adverse times.

Murph7355

40,727 posts

276 months

Tuesday 24th June
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Angelo1985 said:
Petty article.
This.

And...

Sporky said:
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I don't see why people can't be impressed by both, though the writer was certainly poisoning the well.
Definitely this.

It's a race. Who cares what the power plant is? AFAIA there are no extra points for noise, peaky torque delivery or burning fossil fuel within the car. But maybe the rules have changed? We surely just want to see the fastest vehicle up there....

Churlish nonsense that does nothing but try and widen a divide. I guess that's what clicks are made of today.