RE: Range Rover Vogue TD6 | Shed of the Week

RE: Range Rover Vogue TD6 | Shed of the Week

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Range Rover Vogue TD6 | Shed of the Week

Just how lucky do you feel?


James Bond likes a gamble. His exploits on the poker table will occasionally get him into trouble, as they did in Casino Royale. 

Some might say that buying an L322 Range Rover with a warning message on the dash is the motoring equivalent of being tied naked to a bottomless chair while a sweaty bloke prepares to swing a heavy-knotted mooring rope up into your gentleman’s area. A few days after the Sheds had watched that scene in Casino Royale Shed noticed some disturbing catalogues addressed to Mrs Shed arriving on the coconut welcome mat. One of them featured a medieval spiked mace ball on a chain being wielded with some intent by a well-built female Visigoth wearing a horned helmet. Shed has since slipped the local Evri agent a tenner not to deliver anything heavy to his house, a request the geezer was happy to be paid for as he was doing that anyway. 

In the case of this 2004 Range Rover Vogue, the potential thwack in the nadgers appears in pic 10 of the ad where you will see, defiantly displayed by the few pixels that bravely remain on the screen, a message reading ‘HDC INACTIVE’. This means that Hill Descent Control isn’t working. Our friend AI tells us that this can be triggered by a low battery voltage during engine startup. If that’s true, and who knows how much of AI actually is true, there could be an easy solution here. Or you could just avoid going down any ludicriously steep and/or muddy slopes. 

Unfortunately AI then goes on to say that an inactive HDC could also be caused by issues with the alternator, with the sensors for suspension, steering or wheel speed, with the wiring, or just with extreme temperatures. We’ve had a few of those in the UK recently and there’s not a lot the next owner of this RR can do about them in the short term. The other stuff, sure, but where do you draw the line? Maybe at the purchase of a new battery. If that doesn’t work, put the old one back in, sell the new one and put the car back onto the classifieds conveyor belt where it currently sits at £1,895. 

Forum posters will tell you that inactive HDCs could be just the start of your troubles with a TD6 Range Rover, the last one of which appeared in SOTW exactly one year ago. More on that in a minute. What might those troubles be? Well, your air suspension might not have the right amount of air in it, or any air at all, the concept of long-term reliability in this department having received less time from LR’s development engineers (or maybe less money from LR’s accountants) than it might have. Sensors and compressors do fail. Pumps are often easy to fix using cheap rebuild kits. Even if it’s beyond fixing, a replacement item won’t be a king’s ransom at under £200 and it will be very easy to fit.  

Engine wise, the 174hp/288lb ft 2.9 M57 inline six single-turbo diesel more commonly seen in lighter BMW saloons was arguably overmatched by the 2.4-tonne Vogue. Again there will be posters on here warning you off the M57 (and, in this heavier-duty application, the gearbox) as the work of the devil and unfit for anything bar melting down for scrap. Shed takes the view that this will apply to most engines if they’re not maintained. Sadly, when it comes to engines in sub-£2k Range Rovers maintenance is the sort of thing that many owners consider to be the responsibility of either previous owners or the next ones rather than themselves. As a result, they are often neglected. The MOT history of this one shows it struggling along for year after year with the same list of advisories for worn suspension parts. Read into that what you will. Interestingly the most recent MOT at 166,000 miles revealed nothing more than a slightly defective offside front headlamp lamps. Sadly there are as yet no legal restrictions on vape vents, of which it has many, but apart from those and the well-worn driver’s area it looks clean enough inside and out. 

A word of caution though. The Martini-striped £1,690 TD6 HSE that Shed featured last July was also given a clean MOT pass in May 2024 at the same sort of mileage as this one. Unfortunately this year’s test on that Martini car wasn’t so nice, throwing up fails on excessive corrosion to the offside rear suspension mount and a seriously leaky nearside front shock. Both of those issues were fixed to get it through the test, but the owner chose not to address the advisories for front and rear structural corrosion that – so far at least – haven’t reduced its rigidity. Will it survive to next summer? And if it does, will it be worth putting through another test? Seems unlikely somehow. 

That’s the thing about Range Rover ownership. There’s just no way of knowing what cards Lady Luck will deal - it’s all part of the excitement. When everything’s going well in a Vogue there’s not much out there to beat it. You’ll be awed by its effortless ability on any surface, by its luxury and comfort, and by its imperious peasant-humbling stance on the road, and all of it for well under two grand. When it’s not going well though you’ll be scratching your head in a funk of puzzlement and fear at the potential content and size of the bill that’s about to be generated. Whichever way you look at it though, there’s never a dull moment. And a Vogue will be a lovely and comfortable place to sit while you await recovery.


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Wren-went

Original Poster:

969 posts

53 months

No thanks Im ex Land rover & an L405 of any model is more hassle than I'm prepared for.

Would rather have last weeks up certainly far more reliable & much less to look after, anyone who wants an old Range Rover needs treatment for their head testing.

Cold

15,993 posts

105 months

Wren-went said:
No thanks Im ex Land rover & an L405 of any model is more hassle than I'm prepared for.

Would rather have last weeks up certainly far more reliable & much less to look after, anyone who wants an old Range Rover needs treatment for their head testing.
Luckily for you, this one is an L322. But being ex Land Rover you probably knew that.

fflump

2,322 posts

53 months

Respect to the underpowered M57 engine for hauling a FFRR along for 160k miles but that is the bravest of brave pills.

AndySheff

6,764 posts

222 months

Run away !

JRaj

71 posts

88 months

Vape vents on a Rangie!..... it's a stinker!

Edited by JRaj on Friday 4th July 04:57

PSB1967

354 posts

171 months

If a case of either / or, I'd take the thwack in the knackers.

el romeral

1,585 posts

152 months

The state of the crumpled driver’s seat. Looks like it has had an extremely hard life from very heavy occupants with unwashed hair or scalp, judging by the filth on the headrest. Am not warming to this one.

Len Clifton

343 posts

5 months

Sadly the depreciation curve of any Range Rover means they fall into the hands of people with high aspirations but no money. As a result, they aren t maintained to the standard required for an expensive, complex car and people label them unreliable. If you re prepared to throw money at them and stick to the service schedule, Range Rovers of all vintages are fine cars. I say that as the owner of a P38 - the most unreliable of all of them.

ST330

118 posts

26 months

AI Car Mechanic with Bangladesh LLM translated through Chinese, always my first port of call for anything car related.

I asked AI how to clear the DPF on my diesel. It said to rev it to 5,000rpm for 10 to 15 minutes.

The car is red lined at 4,500rpm. It doesn't rev to 5,000rpm not even if you put it in third at 100mph. It'll put your head through the windscreen before it will rev to 5,000.

AI, 1980s RoboCop meets diddled 2025 LLM.

As for the RR, no thanks. Once you get into chasing DTCs your small children will have small children of their own before you come up for air.

griffsomething

318 posts

176 months

What do ‘vape vents’ even do anyway? Wouldn’t just lowering the windows alone do the trick?

BeastieBoy73

729 posts

127 months

If o needed something to park outside an industrial estate meathead gym, this would be perfect.

I don’t, so I won’t.

ST330

118 posts

26 months

Forgot to add, given the date shouldn't this be a Jeep Grand Cherokee?

InfamousK

810 posts

205 months

ST330 said:
Forgot to add, given the date shouldn't this be a Jeep Grand Cherokee?
'Merica

Yeah... I'll stick to the underpowered TD6 thank you.

heisthegaffer

3,840 posts

213 months

JRaj said:
Vape vents on a Rangie!..... it's a stinker!

Edited by JRaj on Friday 4th July 04:57
I detest those stty deflectors. What is the point of them?

FrankandLynn

24 posts

8 months

On Range Rover models, Matt at High Peak recommends always allowing at least the purchase price again, on top of the purchase price, to cover for the repairs that will inevitably be needed. Sage advice but on this one even that may be wishful thinking. Better to export it to a faraway country where testing and safety standards are less demanding. At least there you will look like the king of your village and not the clown three doors away with another piece of junk immobile on the front lawn.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,513 posts

58 months

No much as I love Range Rovers I just wouldn't sleep if I owned this over worry about what is going to fail next.

Demonix

658 posts

227 months

Shiny on the outside, grubby interior and a high potential for financially ruinous borkage - ownership likely to be as painful as Mrs Shed whacking you in the plums with her newly purchased spiked mace! Hard pass...

grumpy52

5,828 posts

181 months

At this point in the vehicles lifespan it's not if it's when it empties your wallet .

Art Keller

830 posts

94 months

Buy it for someone you hate.........you wont be disappointed

Triumph Man

9,098 posts

183 months

Not with all that wideboy meathead shiny st on it, and anyone who can't be bothered to put on the world's simplest wiper blades to fit isn't worth dealing with.