Seat belts, let's not bother...
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A Car in front of me ran into the back of the car in front of him. At less than walking pace, no damage at all to either car.
The driver, however, was howling, wailing and bleeding copiously from his damaged nose. He'd decided that sitting on his seat belt rather than wear it was the bright way forward. Thus he'd discovered that your nose is very sensitive to impact with a steering wheel.
No apparent long term damage it seemed.
Were we wrong to giggle?
The driver, however, was howling, wailing and bleeding copiously from his damaged nose. He'd decided that sitting on his seat belt rather than wear it was the bright way forward. Thus he'd discovered that your nose is very sensitive to impact with a steering wheel.
No apparent long term damage it seemed.
Were we wrong to giggle?
Tell him to grow a pair, and a mullet, and do it properly....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emNrEwar7lY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emNrEwar7lY
Those of us old enough to remember when seat belt use was rare will also know how seriously unbelted car occupants can be hurt in what would otherwise be minor accidents from which a belted occupant would walk away only worrying about the damage to their car.
That lesson seems to be lost on some, or perhaps it's just that most of us no longer have ongoing experience of serious injuries from car accidents in our family/circle of friends as was the case in the 1960s/70s or earlier.
That lesson seems to be lost on some, or perhaps it's just that most of us no longer have ongoing experience of serious injuries from car accidents in our family/circle of friends as was the case in the 1960s/70s or earlier.
Used to give someone a lift who insisted on not wearing a seat belt. Going 60 and I thought someone turning out the other side of the road was going to swing over to my side, full anchors down to 30 and then released when they weren't going over the line. They slid all the way forward into the glovebox area, really not sure what their issue with belts was, just a moron I think.
mac96 said:
Those of us old enough to remember when seat belt use was rare will also know how seriously unbelted car occupants can be hurt in what would otherwise be minor accidents from which a belted occupant would walk away only worrying about the damage to their car.
That lesson seems to be lost on some, or perhaps it's just that most of us no longer have ongoing experience of serious injuries from car accidents in our family/circle of friends as was the case in the 1960s/70s or earlier.
Early 90s my mums metro didn't have belts in the back, with 3 kids, completely fine until the law changed and she had to get some added.That lesson seems to be lost on some, or perhaps it's just that most of us no longer have ongoing experience of serious injuries from car accidents in our family/circle of friends as was the case in the 1960s/70s or earlier.
It is weird thinking that you will be fine in something moving at speed if there is an abrupt stop, the thinking is often that they are so good at driving there will never be an abrupt stop. Being a good driver can help but I would suggest that someone who thinks being unrestrained in a vehicle isnt perhaps in possession of the mental acuity to make that call anyway.
The one that makes me cringe is people with their legs/feet on the dashboard, or a child on their lap, missing the fact their is an incredibly powerful pyrotechnic device in front of them which explodes with enough force to stop a 200 pound person hitting the dash, that device will make light work of your legs and hips or the baby, toddler or Yorkshire Terrier on your lap.
The one that makes me cringe is people with their legs/feet on the dashboard, or a child on their lap, missing the fact their is an incredibly powerful pyrotechnic device in front of them which explodes with enough force to stop a 200 pound person hitting the dash, that device will make light work of your legs and hips or the baby, toddler or Yorkshire Terrier on your lap.
mac96 said:
Those of us old enough to remember when seat belt use was rare will also know how seriously unbelted car occupants can be hurt in what would otherwise be minor accidents from which a belted occupant would walk away only worrying about the damage to their car.
That lesson seems to be lost on some, or perhaps it's just that most of us no longer have ongoing experience of serious injuries from car accidents in our family/circle of friends as was the case in the 1960s/70s or earlier.
Same as drink driving. Some of us drove when there was the ramp up in publicity to try and crack down on it, which I think had a level of success. I think drink and drug driving is on the rise again as all those lessons were being learned a long time ago now. That lesson seems to be lost on some, or perhaps it's just that most of us no longer have ongoing experience of serious injuries from car accidents in our family/circle of friends as was the case in the 1960s/70s or earlier.
I get seat belts save lives and I have seen some horrific smashes where it has done so.
What I don't get is why taxi drivers can get away with not wearing them(I have moaned about this before )as they are still driving a vehicle and should be made to wear them , they can put a partition up if they think they are vulnerable to attack.
Van delivery drivers have to (are supposed to ) wear them and they are in and out the vehicles way more than taxi drivers
Maybe taxi drivers should be made wear seat belts when they have no passengers !!!
What I don't get is why taxi drivers can get away with not wearing them(I have moaned about this before )as they are still driving a vehicle and should be made to wear them , they can put a partition up if they think they are vulnerable to attack.
Van delivery drivers have to (are supposed to ) wear them and they are in and out the vehicles way more than taxi drivers
Maybe taxi drivers should be made wear seat belts when they have no passengers !!!
J4CKO said:
It is weird thinking that you will be fine in something moving at speed if there is an abrupt stop, the thinking is often that they are so good at driving there will never be an abrupt stop. Being a good driver can help but I would suggest that someone who thinks being unrestrained in a vehicle isnt perhaps in possession of the mental acuity to make that call anyway.
The one that makes me cringe is people with their legs/feet on the dashboard, or a child on their lap, missing the fact their is an incredibly powerful pyrotechnic device in front of them which explodes with enough force to stop a 200 pound person hitting the dash, that device will make light work of your legs and hips or the baby, toddler or Yorkshire Terrier on your lap.
Putting the forearm over the airbag cover whilst turning. If the airbag deploys it'll push the forearm into the face of the driver.The one that makes me cringe is people with their legs/feet on the dashboard, or a child on their lap, missing the fact their is an incredibly powerful pyrotechnic device in front of them which explodes with enough force to stop a 200 pound person hitting the dash, that device will make light work of your legs and hips or the baby, toddler or Yorkshire Terrier on your lap.
P675 said:
Used to give someone a lift who insisted on not wearing a seat belt. Going 60 and I thought someone turning out the other side of the road was going to swing over to my side, full anchors down to 30 and then released when they weren't going over the line. They slid all the way forward into the glovebox area, really not sure what their issue with belts was, just a moron I think.
A mates brother never wore a seatbelt. A car pulled out in front of his mate one day, and the mate T-Boned said car at about 60mph. My mates brother was found about 40 metres past the crash site. Sadly.
mac96 said:
Those of us old enough to remember when seat belt use was rare will also know how seriously unbelted car occupants can be hurt in what would otherwise be minor accidents from which a belted occupant would walk away only worrying about the damage to their car.
That lesson seems to be lost on some, or perhaps it's just that most of us no longer have ongoing experience of serious injuries from car accidents in our family/circle of friends as was the case in the 1960s/70s or earlier.
Same as these gibbering fThat lesson seems to be lost on some, or perhaps it's just that most of us no longer have ongoing experience of serious injuries from car accidents in our family/circle of friends as was the case in the 1960s/70s or earlier.
kwits that are eschewing vaccines and questioning if they even work or getting into cretinous things like "raw water" and "raw milk".Some (most?) of us don't need to learn every lesson from the past first hand to understand it, thankfully, but there seem to be a hardcore of complete crayon chewers who need to discover the hard way that Louis Pasteur was maybe onto something. Let them drive without a seatbelt, ideally before they procreate
Someone I know insisted it was more dangerous to wear a seat belt than not wear one. I am not sure his wife and kids will ever get over seeing him die in an accident that was no fault of his own, his wife and kids survived because they were belted in. So selfish to leave a family and cause the emergency services so much grief trying to save his life. Seat belts are one of those things that cause no issues to the driver yet when needed tend to help a lot.
I also remember before seat belt wearing was common and injuries caused by very minor accidents. Clunk click may have been the one thing Jimmy Savile did that was worth the oxygen.
I also remember before seat belt wearing was common and injuries caused by very minor accidents. Clunk click may have been the one thing Jimmy Savile did that was worth the oxygen.
The big yin said:
I get seat belts save lives and I have seen some horrific smashes where it has done so.
What I don't get is why taxi drivers can get away with not wearing them(I have moaned about this before )as they are still driving a vehicle and should be made to wear them , they can put a partition up if they think they are vulnerable to attack.
Van delivery drivers have to (are supposed to ) wear them and they are in and out the vehicles way more than taxi drivers
Maybe taxi drivers should be made wear seat belts when they have no passengers !!!
Delivery drivers are exempt for short stops up to 50M.What I don't get is why taxi drivers can get away with not wearing them(I have moaned about this before )as they are still driving a vehicle and should be made to wear them , they can put a partition up if they think they are vulnerable to attack.
Van delivery drivers have to (are supposed to ) wear them and they are in and out the vehicles way more than taxi drivers
Maybe taxi drivers should be made wear seat belts when they have no passengers !!!
https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-ne...
More generally belts made little difference statistically to fatalities in fact a comparison of countries with and without belt laws showed deaths reduced more in the no belts
https://john-adams.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/0...
irc said:
Delivery drivers are exempt for short stops up to 50M.
https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-ne...
More generally belts made little difference statistically to fatalities in fact a comparison of countries with and without belt laws showed deaths reduced more in the no belts
https://john-adams.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/0...
Interesting paper. I think I'll keep wearing a seat belt though!https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-ne...
More generally belts made little difference statistically to fatalities in fact a comparison of countries with and without belt laws showed deaths reduced more in the no belts
https://john-adams.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/0...
My granddad bought an Austin Princess, it came with the impossibly high tech feature of a seat belt warning light, which he circumvented by running the belt round the back of the seat. Not sure why he thought seatbelts were a bad idea but when you have been driving trucks in warzones in WW2, a Princess probably doesnt seem that scary.
irc said:
Delivery drivers are exempt for short stops up to 50M.
https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-ne...
More generally belts made little difference statistically to fatalities in fact a comparison of countries with and without belt laws showed deaths reduced more in the no belts
https://john-adams.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/0...
I don't know this John Adams, but how does he explain that in the USA, unbelted occupants account for 8% of the driving/driven population but almost 50% of deaths? (NHTSA figures)https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-ne...
More generally belts made little difference statistically to fatalities in fact a comparison of countries with and without belt laws showed deaths reduced more in the no belts
https://john-adams.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/0...
As for not belting increasing safety of pedestrians and cyclists... let's say I have my doubts.
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