Anyone here fined for not having a dpf?
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A mate of mine has a diesel Insignia. 2011 with about 70K on the clock which suggests it doesn't do many miles. Doing an MOT history check confirms this and he only got a diesel because he likes the torque and economy on the odd longer journey.
His usual use is a round trip of 20 miles to work and back.
Unsurprisingly, he's experienced dpf issues and at the last clean they told him his current dpf is end of life. He was offered £1500 at WBAC for his immaculate car which is close to what he's been offered a replacement fitted dpf for, factoring in a possibility of maybe having to change the sensor on it too. In his eyes his immaculate Insignia is now scrap - As his friend, I struggle to accept that, especially knowing he's got enough problems with finances and health so getting a new car is going to cause him problems.
I'm worried that a replacement dpf is going to be clogged again soon and several of the garages I've spoken to on his behalf have suggested fitting a dpf delete.
My mate doesn't break rules or laws (other than the one which says don't buy a diesel if you're mainly doing short journeys) and doesn't want to risk what he fears would be a £1000 fine.
If the car was reliable, he would be running the car until it really is scrap. Personally, I would go for a dpf delete but I was wondering if anyone here has been caught out and prosecuted for not having one? I'd like to give him feedback on others experience here.
His usual use is a round trip of 20 miles to work and back.
Unsurprisingly, he's experienced dpf issues and at the last clean they told him his current dpf is end of life. He was offered £1500 at WBAC for his immaculate car which is close to what he's been offered a replacement fitted dpf for, factoring in a possibility of maybe having to change the sensor on it too. In his eyes his immaculate Insignia is now scrap - As his friend, I struggle to accept that, especially knowing he's got enough problems with finances and health so getting a new car is going to cause him problems.
I'm worried that a replacement dpf is going to be clogged again soon and several of the garages I've spoken to on his behalf have suggested fitting a dpf delete.
My mate doesn't break rules or laws (other than the one which says don't buy a diesel if you're mainly doing short journeys) and doesn't want to risk what he fears would be a £1000 fine.
If the car was reliable, he would be running the car until it really is scrap. Personally, I would go for a dpf delete but I was wondering if anyone here has been caught out and prosecuted for not having one? I'd like to give him feedback on others experience here.
The trick to it these days is to make sure who ever cuts and shuts the DPF does it so it looks untouched to the eye and that the remap is decent, first sign of black smoke and its obvious.
I ran a DPF delete back in 2008, it was a full Milltek pipe though rather than cut and shut, dont think I'd bother these days.
I ran a DPF delete back in 2008, it was a full Milltek pipe though rather than cut and shut, dont think I'd bother these days.
Who do you expect to catch him out, it won't be the Police or Trading standards or the Ministry, only ones will be M.O.T testers who fail it,or if he decided to sell it instead of running it to scrap then the next disgruntled buyer when they can't get it MOT'D etc.
If he's got a moral conscience he wont do it but if he's like 90% of the population he'll get it deleted and sweet talk his friendly MOT tester.
If he's got a moral conscience he wont do it but if he's like 90% of the population he'll get it deleted and sweet talk his friendly MOT tester.
BrettMRC said:
If he's that worried, fit a new DPF and make a longer trip every couple of weeks - only needs a half sensible motorway or dual carriageway run to get everything up to tempterature and trigger the cycle.
In a diesel it won’t cost too much in fuel to do. My petrol Kia had a GPF. Light came on every 5-6,000 miles. Solution is to absolutely kick its arse for half an hour. All in an environmentally friendly way obvs.
I’d delete it if it’s possible to make it look like it’s not been messed with.
AC43 said:
Kevin-2g5x2 said:
If he's got a moral conscience he wont do it.
This.Then, you get behind some ropey old Bus or commercial.
Then you realise EVs are taking over and it will cease to be a problem in 20 to 20 years.
Cold said:
Tell him to have a look on ebay. A cursory glance suggests a new pattern dpf comes in at around £600.
Quality is the issue. Cheap DPF's don't come with the same levels of precious metals in as an OEM part and are more prone to blocking, failing and generally being an expensive pain in the arse. Finding a low mileage used genuine unit from an accident write off would probably be a better bet. Might even be worth OP's friend getting a scan tool that can manually regenerate and running that regularly.
Jaybmw said:
Why are the English so weird about deleting the dpf.. id say 80% of the population in Ireland have no dpf anymore.. think I'd scrap a perfectly good car over a dpf you must be mad. Very strange
Because the MOT can fail a car that has had its dpf removed.https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-...
J4CKO said:
I wouldnt, but when I look up I am seeing a constant stream of airliners flying out of Manchester airport, occasionally get a waft of Jet A1.
Then, you get behind some ropey old Bus or commercial.
Then you realise EVs are taking over and it will cease to be a problem in 20 to 20 years.
Yes, the EV transition being forced on the country will remove the selfish choice of inflicting additional pollution on others. Absolutely the right thing to do.Then, you get behind some ropey old Bus or commercial.
Then you realise EVs are taking over and it will cease to be a problem in 20 to 20 years.
Pistom said:
He was offered £1500 at WBAC for his immaculate car which is close to what he's been offered a replacement fitted dpf for, factoring in a possibility of maybe having to change the sensor on it too. In his eyes his immaculate Insignia is now scrap
Just because an online car buying service will only pay £1500 for a car and it costs £1500 to fix doesn't mean it's not worth fixing.He needs to look at what he could buy instead for £3000 - which if looking at another Insignia would be one of a similar age and mileage or a slightly newer one with higher mileage. If his car is in good condition and he knows the history there would be no logic selling his known car and replace it with another one where he doesn't know the history (and chances are will have the same DPF issue brewing up.)
If the car is on its original DPF, the better way to look at it is that if he replaces the DPF, the new one should last another 14 years, so he's not likely to need to do it again in the remaining life of the car.
Trif said:
AlexGSi2000 said:
Dave. said:
Sorry, but.... Anyone who does DPF deletes or has a DPF delete is a 
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Care to elaborate? ... to anyone outside the car.holes.Jazoli said:
Trif said:
AlexGSi2000 said:
Dave. said:
Sorry, but.... Anyone who does DPF deletes or has a DPF delete is a ...
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