RE: Mercedes C43 AMG | Spotted
RE: Mercedes C43 AMG | Spotted
Monday 11th August

Mercedes C43 AMG | Spotted

The first V8 C-Class is now almost 30 years old - and perhaps more appealing than ever


Rumours continue to swirl about the return of a V8 engine to AMG C- and E-Classes. As well they might: there’s decades of hot rod heritage to continue, a hybridised 4.0-litre that must be able to fit (given the previous generation contained it) as well as the fact that four- and six-cylinder plug-in models haven’t really hit the spot. The performance and the innovation is there; the charm - so often a given in AMGs - is disappointingly absent.

So let’s continue to hope for a return in one form or another, because there’s really nothing quite like a V8 C- or E-Class. What seems unlikely to come back, however, is the truly subtle supersaloon. That’s hardly an AMG affliction, of course; any maker with anything vaguely sporty for sale is now apparently compelled to shout about the fact. Even Alpina, for so long the very best at under-the-radar performance, is making more overt fast cars than ever. AMG, having enjoyed its period of excess during the 1980s as the preeminent Mercedes tuner, then calmed things down for a while as it became gradually more absorbed into the Mercedes mothership. 

Look at this C43, for example. It’s so unassuming that most simply wouldn’t give it another glance - really it’s only the rear badge that gives it away, the AMG monoblocks (or wheels that look like them) featuring on so many old Mercs. The blistered arches, aerokits and suggestive ride heights that would come to characterise AMGs are notable here by their absence. It’s just a silver W202 C-Class to many eyes; a car that’s ageing really nicely indeed, though not generally regarded as anything special. 

Except it’s not just a C-Class, of course, it’s a C43 - the very first C-Class with a V8, no less, with iconic models like the C55 and C63 to follow. There had been an AMG C-Class before this car, the C36 AMG with a straight six, but if the V8s are the most loved Afflaterbach C-Classes then the story begins right here. It was powered by the M113 eight-cylinder, too, a legendary Mercedes V8 that would go on in 5.4-litre form to power the supercharged ‘55 models. 

The C43 was launched in 1997, the same year as the engine, with its own unique tune: where a standard M113 in 430-badged models was 279hp and 295lb ft strong, the AMG C-Class boasted 306hp and 302lb ft. Even with a standard auto that was far from the slickest, the big V8 meant 0-62mph in six-and-a-bit seconds and 155mph. 

Any C43 is a bit of a find these days, given their age and the W202’s propensity to rust. Once upon a time these were almost bargain basement AMGs, and some must have fallen by the wayside as a result. That was never likely to happen with this example, however, as it was owned by the same gent from first registration on August 4th 1998 until this year. The second owner was his wife, so a true one-family-from-new car. Looks like it, too, every fixture, fitting and bit of fabric almost factory quality. But it’s been enjoyed as well, notching up just over 70,000 miles in almost 30 years. So anyone keen to experience the charm of a V8 C-Class would be in the perfect position to do so. Yes, you’d have to pay C63 money for the privilege, but as AMG Q car heroes go, it’s hard to think of much better than an original C43. 


SPECIFICATION | MERCEDES C43 AMG

Engine: 4,266cc, V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 306@5,850rpm
Torque (lb ft): 303@3,250rpm
MPG: 24
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1998
Recorded mileage: 72,000
Price new: £49,070
Yours for: £17,995

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nismo48

Original Poster:

5,525 posts

224 months

Monday 11th August
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A true classic and in remarkable condition too.

AC43

12,834 posts

225 months

Monday 11th August
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I had two of these back in the day. A saloon when kid 1 came along and an estate when kid 2 arrived.

Subtle but effective. Very few people had much of a clue about them then - 2003-2010 - which suited me just fine,

McRors

392 posts

73 months

Monday 11th August
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I loved my W202 C Class estate when I had one and it was only a C180. I can imagine what fun this one would be. It’s a lot of money but, as they say, find another in such good condition.

itcaptainslow

4,200 posts

153 months

Monday 11th August
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What a handsome thing. Price doesn’t actually seem that bad - for context, keeping £8k in your pocket puts you in a Fiat Stilo instead…

AC43

12,834 posts

225 months

Monday 11th August
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McRors said:
I loved my W202 C Class estate when I had one and it was only a C180. I can imagine what fun this one would be.
Definitely better at 11s :-)

VR6 Eug

753 posts

216 months

Monday 11th August
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I had one of these for 6 months in 99 as a company car, sounded like a dragster and went ok (Got smoked by several E36 M3's and a breadvan M3)
The handling was more of a 7/10th drive than sports car, it didn't like being hussled along back roads and was over wheeled.
Over all, it always put a smile on my face until the company got sold and we lost our fuel cards!

disco666

417 posts

163 months

Monday 11th August
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Very nice.
Price is realistic considering condition, rarity and future potential for appreciation.

andrewcliffe

1,357 posts

241 months

Monday 11th August
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I had one of these - a black saloon. It had the Designo interior with inflatable seat bolsters. It was quick, spacious but prone to rusting. The gearboxes were known to be weak - they couldn't really handle the torque, and mine failed - I couldn't afford to get the box reconditioned, and I sold it to a London MB specialist who rebuilt it and it was put back on the road. Looking online its been taken off the road (but not Sorned) since 2020.

They had twin spark heads, so it needed 16 spark plugs, and it had 8 coil packs.

Miss it.

It was replaced by a Toyota Altezza RS200


dunnoreally

1,324 posts

125 months

Monday 11th August
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I do like the W202, almost as much as I like the W201.

I can see the appeal of a v8, but a nice smooth straight six with absolutely zero sporting intent also sounds like a rather lovely idea in its own way.

AC43

12,834 posts

225 months

Monday 11th August
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VR6 Eug said:
I had one of these for 6 months in 99 as a company car, sounded like a dragster and went ok (Got smoked by several E36 M3's and a breadvan M3)
The handling was more of a 7/10th drive than sports car, it didn't like being hussled along back roads and was over wheeled.
Over all, it always put a smile on my face until the company got sold and we lost our fuel cards!
Ah yes fuel cards. When I had mine I had a fuel card. And my company paid my congestion charge when that came along. And paid for me to park in London. When it was really hot and humid I'd ditch the tube and growl across town in the 43.

It was back when AMGs were dragster-ish. It was quick in a straight line especially at speed and it had very good stoppers. But the steering wasn't rack and pinion and that showed.

It was a great way to bomb down A roads and motorways.

Deep Thought

38,004 posts

214 months

Monday 11th August
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dunnoreally said:
I do like the W202, almost as much as I like the W201.

I can see the appeal of a v8, but a nice smooth straight six with absolutely zero sporting intent also sounds like a rather lovely idea in its own way.
I'd the straight six previous variant - the C36. Very similar to the C43 visually.

It was a great car. It went well. Caught many people unawares who didnt know what it was. Like todays C43 (of which i have a 2019 variant), i think most people thought it was a diesel with nice wheels on it.


Resolutionary

1,427 posts

188 months

Monday 11th August
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AC43 said:
McRors said:
I loved my W202 C Class estate when I had one and it was only a C180. I can imagine what fun this one would be.
Definitely better at 11s :-)
When I used to frequent the car meet scene around South London, probably 2008 - 2014, there was a guy who had a black C43 saloon who would demonstrate this at every opportunity. It took some serious abuse and seemingly the only thing he'd tend to was some part-worn rears every few weeks.

The one featured here is just perfection, and I am a massive sucker for a seller that takes pride in their photography.
An estate would be in my fantasy garage without question.

J4CKO

44,775 posts

217 months

Monday 11th August
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It’s alright but the world is not short of V8 Mercs, not sure I could buy this when there are E55s etc for sale at less money.

I get it’s rare and in nice condition, it’s worth that but always thought these early C classes were a bit meh, I had a boss that had one, a C180, just remember going down the M6 with him chain smoking.

AC43

12,834 posts

225 months

Monday 11th August
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Resolutionary said:
AC43 said:
McRors said:
I loved my W202 C Class estate when I had one and it was only a C180. I can imagine what fun this one would be.
Definitely better at 11s :-)
When I used to frequent the car meet scene around South London, probably 2008 - 2014, there was a guy who had a black C43 saloon who would demonstrate this at every opportunity. It took some serious abuse and seemingly the only thing he'd tend to was some part-worn rears every few weeks.

The one featured here is just perfection, and I am a massive sucker for a seller that takes pride in their photography.
An estate would be in my fantasy garage without question.
I only did it a couple of times just to satisfy my curiosity. One day I found myself demonstrating technique to a petrolhead mate on the way into his office car car park. The 11s stayed for months, apparently. Whoops.

But, yeah, people would always stick monoblocks and fake AMG exhaust tips on dag dags so most people didn't have a clue. I once did a 964 three times in a straight line coming into London on a dual carriageway. Not because my car was actually faster. It was just so easy to hoof it and immediately access all the torque.

Deep Thought

38,004 posts

214 months

Monday 11th August
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J4CKO said:
It’s alright but the world is not short of V8 Mercs, not sure I could buy this when there are E55s etc for sale at less money.

I get it’s rare and in nice condition, it’s worth that but always thought these early C classes were a bit meh, I had a boss that had one, a C180, just remember going down the M6 with him chain smoking.
I would concur. I'd find it hard to walk past a C55 for one of these.

There was one came up locally here last year and it was about £9995. Felt like value at that. At £18K, not so much.

Augustus Windsock

3,650 posts

172 months

Monday 11th August
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There’s a 2004 reg C55 AMG on car gurus for the same price, (obviously 6 years newer) and just over half the mileage, and I think I’d rather sink my money into that than this one.

Chestrockwell

2,860 posts

174 months

Monday 11th August
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My brother had a C200 in 2005, it was a sport in maroon red and it was a very smart looking car.

Of course we had then worshipped the C43, they were so rare at the time and even rarer now. I only see silver ones come up for sale too.

Give me a black one or that turqiouse blue one that resembles BMW's snapper rocks blue

The thing with these cars though is the extremely poor quality, they do not like regular use, my dad had a 51 plate E430 wagon and the fit and finish was awful. I bought a CLK430 in 2016 for £400 that had arches rusted so badly, a packet of crisps was more solid. It was a laugh and sounded like a hot rod. The quality was terrible as well, shame really as BMW's from the same era have held up a lot better and cost a lot more.

The E430 wagon was actually dangerously quick, not because of outright speed, but because of how well it hid the speed as it was so refined, you could never tell how fast you're actually going. It also returned 30 mpg + quite easily too. Shame about the fit and finish.





cerb4.5lee

38,316 posts

197 months

Monday 11th August
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itcaptainslow said:
What a handsome thing. Price doesn’t actually seem that bad - for context, keeping £8k in your pocket puts you in a Fiat Stilo instead…
These seemed to pass me by at the time for whatever reason, but I'd definitely rather have this than the Stilo though as you say! biggrin

Leins

9,979 posts

165 months

Monday 11th August
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Deep Thought said:
I would concur. I'd find it hard to walk past a C55 for one of these.

There was one came up locally here last year and it was about £9995. Felt like value at that. At £18K, not so much.
There was also a W202 C55 available, but they’re rare and pricey these days. Last one I saw a few years ago was up for €47k

Deep Thought

38,004 posts

214 months

Monday 11th August
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Leins said:
Deep Thought said:
I would concur. I'd find it hard to walk past a C55 for one of these.

There was one came up locally here last year and it was about £9995. Felt like value at that. At £18K, not so much.
There was also a W202 C55 available, but they’re rare and pricey these days. Last one I saw a few years ago was up for €47k
Didn't know that! Interesting! Must go research it!