RE: Polestar 3 gets 581 miles on a single charge
RE: Polestar 3 gets 581 miles on a single charge
Wednesday 13th August

Polestar 3 achieves 581 miles on a single charge

That's a world record for an electric SUV. But would it really convince you to buy one?


How far is far enough? This remains a hot topic whenever anyone wants to discuss EVs, especially when buying and living with one. Carmakers are famously flexible on the subject, and will bend their opinion to fit whatever it is they are selling. If it’s a city car in the showroom, they’ll patiently explain that 99.8 per cent of people (or whatever) commute less than 35 miles to work and therefore 150 miles of range is perfectly adequate. If, however, it’s a large family or luxury car they want to shift, they will typically attempt to eke out the maximum possible distance like they were selling U2 spy planes. More, simply put, is better. 

Consequently, any claim for ‘longest journey record’ ought to carry some weight. People would very much like to think that the EV they are buying (or are interested in) will rival the mile-accruing abilities of a parsimonious four-cylinder diesel engine - and who can blame them? Public charging is even less fun than refuelling and the thought of being about to get from London to Manchester - and back again - without sitting forlornly next to a plug socket for half an hour, is a welcome one. 

Nevertheless, these achievements - even when backed up by the self-appointed and vaguely scientific adjudicators from Guinness - must always be taken with a self-evidently large pinch of salt. Polestar is the latest to underpin its wares with the help of ‘professional efficiency drivers’ (note to Gothenburg: driving very slowly is not a profession). Apparently, three blokes, toiling in shifts and trailed by an AA van, managed to get an unmodified Polestar 3 Long Range Single Motor 581.3 miles before throwing in the towel - a world record so far as battery-powered SUVs are concerned. 

At face value, that number is certainly striking. It exceeds the WLTP figure of 438 miles by a lot - and as anyone who owns an electric car will tell you, simply equalling the official number is very good going indeed. Ditto returning a 19.5kWh per 100 miles efficiency figure, which, again, is eye-popping. “It goes to show how battery range has improved exponentially over the past few years,” said Polestar MD, Matt Galvin. “For a large luxury SUV to go way beyond a London to Edinburgh distance is truly impressive.” 

Of course, while it was achieved in the real world, it would be a stretch to suggest that the conditions replicated real-world behaviour. For one thing, it took the team 22 hours and 57 minutes to accrue that many miles, which suggests a level of patience best thought of as ‘saintly’. Or outright Michael-taking, depending on your view of slow-moving traffic. Additionally, the team chose Norwich as a starting point chiefly for its lack of hills and plotted a route to match. It also conceded that had there been more rain (or more precisely, standing water) the attempt would’ve been scuppered. 

Time, gradients, inclement weather. All things that the nation either suffers for the lack of or else possesses in too generous supply. Either way, the idea that ‘long distances are perfectly achievable with minimal fuss’ is only true based on your perception of ‘long’ and ‘fuss’. The Polestar 3 will get you from London to Manchester with very little fuss, we don’t doubt. But if you wanted to get back again, you’d either need to be exceptionally fussy with the accelerator pedal - or accepting of the moderate fuss that is finding and using a public charger. Sadly, there is no prize-giving for enduring the latter.


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dukebox9reg

Original Poster:

1,653 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Disco 5 D350. Roof tent fitted. Drove Stratford upon Avon to Grimsby to Inverness in one go on one tank of fuel in 9.5 hours and still had 100miles left in the tank.....600miles.
Not much of a record when your average speed would get you pulled over for being a menace

Edit - just did the maths as the story didnt cover it, but rounding, they averaged 25mph

Edited by dukebox9reg on Wednesday 13th August 12:29


Edited by dukebox9reg on Wednesday 13th August 12:31

Turini

444 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Love the photo with the AA following it, is that intentional or indicative of a question mark over the actual range…

chazwozza

855 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Turini said:
Love the photo with the AA following it, is that intentional or indicative of a question mark over the actual range…
That was my first thought!

P1H

433 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Turini said:
Love the photo with the AA following it, is that intentional or indicative of a question mark over the actual range…
Read the article - it is obviously both a) intentional and; b) indicative of a question mark over the range - this is literally the entire purpose of the exercise.

Range is impressive and I think the Polestar 3 looks great in person.

More generally, (& as covered in the article) I think fixation on EV range continues to be an irrelevant measure for many people and many use cases. In my personal experience, in a year of EV ownership I’ve used a public charger once for 20 minutes, 99% of charging has been at work for free.

As such, not once have I looked at / calculated/ cared about kw/h, in the same way that I’ve never paid any attention to MPG.

Chris Peacock

3,317 posts

151 months

Wednesday 13th August
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dukebox9reg said:
Disco 5 D350. Roof tent fitted. Drove Stratford upon Avon to Grimsby to Inverness in one go on one tank of fuel in 9.5 hours and still had 100miles left in the tank.....600miles.
Not much of a record when your average speed would get you pulled over for being a menace

Edit - just did the maths as the story didnt cover it, but rounding, they averaged 25mph

Edited by dukebox9reg on Wednesday 13th August 12:29


Edited by dukebox9reg on Wednesday 13th August 12:31
Fair play, I couldn't drive for 9.5 hours without stopping.

BrownEaredDog

1,243 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th August
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dukebox9reg said:
Disco 5 D350. Roof tent fitted. Drove Stratford upon Avon to Grimsby to Inverness in one go on one tank of fuel in 9.5 hours and still had 100miles left in the tank.....600miles.
Pah, amateur!

Lee could hitch a 50-tonne trailer to his X5 40d and drive double that distance at an average speed of 130mph. He'd still have over 100 miles left in the tank at the end. Comfort breaks? Not necessary, he has a cyborg body that doesn't feel pain, an IV drip for sustenance and only needs to use the toilet once every three days wink

(Just kidding Lee beer)

plfrench

3,765 posts

285 months

Wednesday 13th August
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dukebox9reg said:
Disco 5 D350. Roof tent fitted. Drove Stratford upon Avon to Grimsby to Inverness in one go on one tank of fuel in 9.5 hours and still had 100miles left in the tank.....600miles.
Not much of a record when your average speed would get you pulled over for being a menace

Edit - just did the maths as the story didnt cover it, but rounding, they averaged 25mph

Edited by dukebox9reg on Wednesday 13th August 12:29


Edited by dukebox9reg on Wednesday 13th August 12:31
But come 1st Jan 2030 JLR won’t legally be able to sell you a new one, so completely and utterly irrelevant.

pb8g09

2,839 posts

86 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Great range.

Still put off by the fact nearly every EV looks utter ste.

corcoran

642 posts

291 months

Wednesday 13th August
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581 miles! Pah, my 40 year old diesel goes 600 miles on one tank. REJECTED.

BrownEaredDog

1,243 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Chris Peacock said:
dukebox9reg said:
Disco 5 D350. Roof tent fitted. Drove Stratford upon Avon to Grimsby to Inverness in one go on one tank of fuel in 9.5 hours and still had 100miles left in the tank.....600miles.
Not much of a record when your average speed would get you pulled over for being a menace

Edit - just did the maths as the story didnt cover it, but rounding, they averaged 25mph
Fair play, I couldn't drive for 9.5 hours without stopping.
I probably could, but would I feel safe doing so or even want to? Nope smile There are very good reasons that the rules regarding rest periods for truckers are strictly enforced. I'd gladly never again have to sit through another compulsory refresher course every 5 years, mind - they're incredibly tedious unless the tutors are fun wink

BrownEaredDog

1,243 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th August
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corcoran said:
581 miles! Pah, my 40 year old diesel goes 600 miles on one tank. REJECTED.
That's quite impressive. What car? Berlin taxi-spec W124? My stinky old Grand Scénic 1.5dci can just about manage that on a 70 litre tank...if I stay away from motorways and towns wink

uktrailmonster

6,740 posts

217 months

Wednesday 13th August
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It’s a very nice car, but it’s just got a very large battery, something like 111 kWh. So drive it very slowly and you can get this kind of range. Nothing to see here. It’s real world efficiency is pretty average and the XXL battery makes it very heavy (2,400 - 2,600 kg depending on spec). So just a publicity stunt.

CloudStuff

4,029 posts

121 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Excellent range. Nobody needs more.

corcoran

642 posts

291 months

Wednesday 13th August
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BrownEaredDog said:
That's quite impressive. What car? Berlin taxi-spec W124? My stinky old Grand Scénic 1.5dci can just about manage that on a 70 litre tank...if I stay away from motorways and towns wink
I WEE WHILE I DRIVE, etc.

anonymous-user

71 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Having owned two of these, 250 miles is what you can expect. 200 if its motorway

Magikarp

1,371 posts

65 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Chris Peacock said:
Fair play, I couldn't drive for 9.5 hours without stopping.
What you have to remember is that it was only 9.5 hours presumably because they couldn't go any further. These iron-bladdered PH hardmen could drive from Sherborne to Sydney (or Constantinople as it was then of course) without a break for sleep or biological functions.

andrewpandrew

1,041 posts

6 months

Wednesday 13th August
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The equivalent of just over 2 gallons of diesel to do 581 miles is impressive.

endorium

45 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Chris Peacock said:
Fair play, I couldn't drive for 9.5 hours without stopping.
More surprised the disco made it without breaking down....

herebebeasties

724 posts

236 months

Wednesday 13th August
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I don't understand the point of ekeing out range at a 25mph average to get some meaningless headline, and I don't understand the media who are complicit in publishing articles with such headlines. Why didn't they just put it on a rolling road and see how "far" it would go. It's about as relevant in the real world.

This could alternatively have a headline of "Polestar 3 gets half the range of an EV pick-up truck, while only doing 25 mph" - GM have done over a thousand miles in a pickup truck, also doing around 25mph. So what.

AndySheff

6,776 posts

224 months

Wednesday 13th August
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My old S60 D3 gets a 1600 km range on a full tank smile
The best I've had on a tank - I'd already driven about 100km after filling. I drove 700kms to a job. Did a few kms in local trips to offices. 700kms home, and I still had 100km range according to the trip computer. With an average speed of 83 kmh.