Confused About No Entry Road - Pics

[mphJ]

Hi all

So I went into this dead end/cul de sac the other day and only when going past it again the day after I noticed the sign, so I’ll probably get a fine which is fair enough , but I’m just confused why it would be a pedestrian/cycle zone on a dead end/cul de sac road ? Anyone seen this one before ?

Like I said I’ll willingly pay the fine as I admit to going down there in those times but would just like to understand it if I’m paying a fine , the road is just full of residential houses , the sign is at the entry of Gower Road there where it meets the main road, pics below , many thanks

Edited by mphJ on Saturday 30th August 08:56

[Mammasaid]

Because of the sodding great school over the road and that some parents are total muppets that cause untold havoc for residents with their 2 tonne SUVs, etc.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wyke+Cl,+Islew...

[scenario8]

These things are usually related to a school. Could there be one nearby? Perhaps that green area with the “Goals” football place (accessed via an alleyway)?

A nearby school is certainly a possibility so might be worth studying that map.

(Hateful schemes these camera controlled zones as they are exceptionally easy to drive into in many places. Yes there are signs but in many urban districts there are so many signs it can be hard to read them all, many are obscured, the urban environment can be such a dynamic environment and so on. Particularly tricky for drivers in unfamiliar places following route guidance..

[Dr Murdoch]

It's a School Street Zone, hence the operational timings are at drop off and pick up times.

[mphJ]

Ok thanks yeah that’s probably it then

I can understand if the school was in that road but a school being opposite the road is a new one on me

[scenario8]

Too slow typing!

It does also raise questions about their application in non term time (such as now). I know I try my best to navigate around them outside of term time which can be a real nuisance. I really must get round to investigating that…

[ralphrj]

There is a big school nearby and the times prohibit access (and therefore, parking) to anyone without a permit (only the residents will have a permit) at times that coincide with the start and end of the school day.

The restriction is there to stop people from using the road for school drop off and pick up.

Edit: Others can type faster than me!

[scenario8]

mphJ said:

Ok thanks yeah that’s probably it then

I can understand if the school was in that road but a school being opposite the road is a new one on me

Oh no, they are often not in the absolute immediate area of the school or in a place you might recognise as being related to a school.

[mphJ]

As someone said above is it still operational even though it’s school holidays ?

[Pica-Pica]

Yup. It’s to stop school drop offs.
Similar set ups exit in other places.

[Pica-Pica]

mphJ said:

As someone said above is it still operational even though it’s school holidays ?

Yes, the sign does not say otherwise.

[Pica-Pica]

scenario8 said:

mphJ said:

Ok thanks yeah that’s probably it then

I can understand if the school was in that road but a school being opposite the road is a new one on me

Oh no, they are often not in the absolute immediate area of the school or in a place you might recognise as being related to a school.

The immediate area of a school is likely to be No Stopping at all.

[Mammasaid]

Pica-Pica said:

scenario8 said:

mphJ said:

Ok thanks yeah that’s probably it then

I can understand if the school was in that road but a school being opposite the road is a new one on me

Oh no, they are often not in the absolute immediate area of the school or in a place you might recognise as being related to a school.

The immediate area of a school is likely to be No Stopping at all.

Yep, it's a Red Route.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wyke+Cl,+Islew...

[scenario8]

Pica-Pica said:

scenario8 said:

mphJ said:

Ok thanks yeah that’s probably it then

I can understand if the school was in that road but a school being opposite the road is a new one on me

Oh no, they are often not in the absolute immediate area of the school or in a place you might recognise as being related to a school.

The immediate area of a school is likely to be No Stopping at all.

It can be, of course. Frequently with timed zig zags. More often than red routes, of course. My point was that you can find yourself “very close to” a school, without having the slightest idea you are close to a school. Perhaps particularly so on a non school day. Such as in the case for this OP.

[vaud]

School based limitations sometimes have a date as well - our local primary has a restriction “except for July 31 to Sept 1 - which gives the flexibility of those dates always being summer holiday.

[Geertsen]

scenario8 said:

...Hateful schemes these camera controlled zones as they are exceptionally easy to drive into in many places. Yes there are signs but in many urban districts there are so many signs it can be hard to read them all, many are obscured, the urban environment can be such a dynamic environment and so on. Particularly tricky for drivers in unfamiliar places following route guidance..

I have little doubt that this is intentional. If there were markings on the tarmac at the entrance to these zones it would be much more obvious ...but that would affect revenue!

[Alex_225]

Will be school based as people have said. Was a similar restriction on the road where my kids used to go to school.

Admittedly, the sign you've posted looks better (although I still think it could be clearer) but the sign we had locally was useless. Must have caught hundreds of people who missed the sign. You can hardly stop and read it when turning in off a main road by which point you're too late and got caught.

[Pica-Pica]

scenario8 said:

Pica-Pica said:

scenario8 said:

mphJ said:

Ok thanks yeah that’s probably it then

I can understand if the school was in that road but a school being opposite the road is a new one on me

Oh no, they are often not in the absolute immediate area of the school or in a place you might recognise as being related to a school.

The immediate area of a school is likely to be No Stopping at all.

It can be, of course. Frequently with timed zig zags. More often than red routes, of course. My point was that you can find yourself “very close to” a school, without having the slightest idea you are close to a school. Perhaps particularly so on a non school day. Such as in the case for this OP.

Many clubs use schools on ‘non-school’ days, including school clubs.

[Pica-Pica]

It’s a red ringed sign, so it immediately shouts out NO something, the motor vehicles show no motor vehicles, so then you know to stop and see if there are exceptions below. That’s an L plate basic.