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NRG1976

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2,020 posts

27 months

Monday 1st September
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Friends car had worn tyres (down to 1.6mm) and yet the car passed its MOT with no advisories. Obviously he is going to change the tyres but what on earth are these MOT centres doing! Feel like they should be reported!!!

normalbloke

8,143 posts

236 months

Monday 1st September
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What’s the legal tread depth limit for a car?

SuperPav

1,188 posts

142 months

Monday 1st September
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At 1.6mm or below? To the letter of the law, one is OK, the other is not. Advisories are optional from what I understand.

If below 1.6mm etc. then yes they should be reported and there's a mechanism for that.


NRG1976

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2,020 posts

27 months

Monday 1st September
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This might be an educational piece for me in that case, I’m here to learn!

The tyre was ranging from 1.6mm-1.7mm across the width, I thought they would have given an advisory? Are you guys saying that it is completely optional or whether to give an advisory on that and the only thing they have to flag is below 1.6mm?

Every day a journey

2,425 posts

55 months

Monday 1st September
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NRG1976 said:
This might be an educational piece for me in that case, I’m here to learn!

The tyre was ranging from 1.6mm-1.7mm across the width, I thought they would have given an advisory? Are you guys saying that it is completely optional or whether to give an advisory on that and the only thing they have to flag is below 1.6mm?
Yes.

samoht

6,670 posts

163 months

Monday 1st September
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Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency said:
Advisory notices are a non-mandatory part of the MOT and it’s up to the tester to decide whether to advise on an item or not.
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it’s considered best practice to advise the presenter about any items which are near to, but which have not yet reached the point of test failure
https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/giving-the-ri...


ARHarh

4,884 posts

124 months

Monday 1st September
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As far as I am aware it is up to the tester whether they give an advisory or not. There are no hard and fast rules for advisories. They obviously didn't feel the need to advise.

I asked my MOT test when she would advise for a low tyre, as my fronts were at about 2.5mm when tested. She said anything below about 2.5mm will be advised, but as I knew the state of my tyres she did not advise.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,296 posts

252 months

Monday 1st September
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We've seen the advisories "crap music in the tape player" and "owner looks a bit of a c*nt"

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Krikkit

27,559 posts

198 months

Monday 1st September
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ARHarh said:
As far as I am aware it is up to the tester whether they give an advisory or not. There are no hard and fast rules for advisories. They obviously didn't feel the need to advise.

I asked my MOT test when she would advise for a low tyre, as my fronts were at about 2.5mm when tested. She said anything below about 2.5mm will be advised, but as I knew the state of my tyres she did not advise.
Precisely.

I took one of my cars a couple of years ago, I had mentioned to the tester I knew the front tyres were about 1.7mm and would be replaced the following week. No advisory required.

ARHarh

4,884 posts

124 months

Monday 1st September
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
We've seen the advisories "crap music in the tape player" and "owner looks a bit of a c*nt"

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Many years ago my friendly MOT test wrote an advisory for a metro I once owned.

it said " surface rust almost everywhere except windows, gaffa tape and tyres" He could not believe he couldn't fail such a horrid tatty car.

MRichards99

324 posts

145 months

Monday 1st September
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Advisories are a spectrum anyway, some testers are extremely cautious and will advise suspension arms surface corrosion for the age of the car as "corroded but not seriously weakened" (which is fair I suppose) for each suspension arm. When you have a car that's got upper and lower arms all round, the list of advisories gets long very quickly!

Other testers won't advise sills that are heavily corroded and patched together with filler and underseal.

NRG1976

Original Poster:

2,020 posts

27 months

Monday 1st September
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I never realised that, I always thought that if the tester felt that between now and the next MOT things would be unsafe that it gets flagged as an advisory. Just shows that it is so important to stay aware of your own car tyre/brake wear etc.

Cold

16,157 posts

107 months

Monday 1st September
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ARHarh said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
We've seen the advisories "crap music in the tape player" and "owner looks a bit of a c*nt"

biggrin
Many years ago my friendly MOT test wrote an advisory for a metro I once owned.

it said " surface rust almost everywhere except windows, gaffa tape and tyres" He could not believe he couldn't fail such a horrid tatty car.
This year my Aston failed on "Offside Front Windscreen wiper not working (3.4 (a))". I had a brief cold sweat as I pondered the cost of a new wiper mech or motor or perhaps a replacement arm.

It passed once it had new set of wiper blades fitted - which also surprised me as I drove it there in the rain without any visibility issues. Oh well.
(Of course, the new blades judder)

gazza285

10,550 posts

225 months

Monday 1st September
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Mine passed with no advisories on the Friday, yet the same garage rang to tell me I needed new discs and pads on the rear when it was serviced the following Tuesday. This was from my trusted local garage that has just come under new ownership. When I queried this I was informed that the extra wear had occurred between the test and the service, which was a surprise to me as the car had only done 600 yards in that time.

One of the mechanics has left since as well.

Riley Blue

22,502 posts

243 months

Monday 1st September
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Some years my car gets an advisory for a windscreen chip, some years it doesn't; this year was one of those. MOTs always done at the same place, usually by the same chap.

BunkMoreland

2,421 posts

24 months

Monday 1st September
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
We've seen the advisories "crap music in the tape player" and "owner looks a bit of a c*nt"

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They've clamped down on that of late! Pointing out that when you do a MOT you are effectively working for the DVSA not your garage. And an MOT is an official government thing.

Persistent offenders run the risk of losing their MOT licence.


Lester H

3,535 posts

122 months

Monday 1st September
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Riley Blue said:
Some years my car gets an advisory for a windscreen chip, some years it doesn't; this year was one of those. MOTs always done at the same place, usually by the same chap.
Going back a few years: A generally regarded as good garage ( later became a BMW agent). Now a Kwik Fit or similar wrote out a new MOT on the spot. The MOT plaque was removed the following week. The second was a shed- like garage local to me, offering MOT. £30 with car £100 without the car. The way we were!

Edited by Lester H on Monday 1st September 20:00

Lester H

3,535 posts

122 months

Monday 1st September
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MRichards99 said:
Advisories are a spectrum anyway, some testers are extremely cautious and will advise suspension arms surface corrosion for the age of the car as "corroded but not seriously weakened" (which is fair I suppose) for each suspension arm. When you have a car that's got upper and lower arms all round, the list of advisories gets long very quickly!

Other testers won't advise sills that are heavily corroded and patched together with filler and underseal.
Don’t advisories suggest that the tester is doing his job? It may be an urban myth but aren’t the powers that be suspicious of a high percentage of clean passes.

Super Sonic

10,165 posts

71 months

Monday 1st September
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Lester H said:
Going back a few years: A generally regarded as good garage ( later became a BMW agent). The salesman wrote out a new MOT on the spot. The MOT plaque was removed the following week. The second was a shed- like garage local to me, offering MOT. £30 with car £100 without the car. The way we were!
Could it be that it was all so simple then?

NRG1976

Original Poster:

2,020 posts

27 months

Monday 1st September
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I never realised that, I always thought that if the tester felt that between now and the next MOT things would be unsafe that it gets flagged as an advisory. Just shows that it is so important to stay aware of your own car tyre/brake wear etc.