RE: Talbot Sunbeam Lotus | PH Auction Block
RE: Talbot Sunbeam Lotus | PH Auction Block
Tuesday 9th September

Talbot Sunbeam Lotus | PH Auction Block

The original pocket rocket rascal - and now with more than 200hp


For half a century now, it feels like the Talbot Sunbeam Lotus has never been the first car that comes to mind. If we’re talking iconic roadgoing hot hatches of the period, folk will inevitably think of the Golf GTI; rear-drive rally hero discussion will be dominated by Escorts. Heck, with a Lotus Carlton in the world as well, the Sunbeam probably can’t claim to be the least likely (yet most brilliant) project for Hethel to have had any involvement in. 

As a result, the poor thing has probably been overlooked a tad as a classic car. It was too old school for its own good when new, as hot hatches were moving from rear-drive, carb-fed scallywags to better behaved, fuel-injected front drivers. Down the line cheap ones got snapped up for clubman rallying, and plenty must have been deemed uneconomical to repair once rust took hold of road cars - or the lively handling got the better of the driver’s skill. Arguably the Sunbeams should have been more loved than they were, but finally it seems like they’re getting some proper affection. Because who now wouldn’t be keen on a Lotus Twin Cam, rear-wheel drive, and styling that could only have come out of Britain in the 70s? 

Back in 2012, a fully restored 1983 Lotus Sunbeam was £20k; our most recent pick from the classifieds a couple of years ago was £35k, for some idea of how things have changed. As Escorts and the like have enjoyed unprecedented appreciation, so those similar cars have also gained value; a Sunbeam Lotus may not have the fast Ford cachet, but it’s far from an inferior option. It can claim some proper motorsport pedigree too, boasted a whole lot more power (150 naturally aspirated horsepower wouldn’t make it to an Escort until the 1990s), and must be a whole lot rarer these days. 

To no surprise at all, this Series 1 Sunbeam Lotus is the only one on PistonHeads right now, and it’s being auctioned from tomorrow. If you’re thinking it looks pretty damn good for a 46-year-old car built in period by Chrysler Europe, then there’s a very good reason for that: this is a restored Talbot. The work, which featured some new panels and paint, was finished in 2019, looks excellent; the Compomotive split rims set the Sunbeam off perfectly. The underside has been Dinitrol’d, and is said to be entirely free from corrosion. 

That’s not even the best bit of this car, either. Because it’s not a mechanically standard example, instead boasting an extensively overhauled Lotus Twin Cam. The 2.2 now boasts high lift cams, Cosworth pistons, a racier manifold and a ported head for something in the region of 220hp, or nearly 50 per cent more than the stock 150. Last year it was refreshed with a skim of the head, new bearings and new valve guides. Remember a Sunbeam weighs less than a tonne, too - it’s going to be a seriously brisk little car. Don’t go looking at the engine bay if you’re trying to resist a bid…

The seller has further upgraded the car with bigger brakes, quicker steering and adjustable dampers, so it ought to be a proper riot of a classic on road or track. The seller says it wants for nothing mechanically, which is encouraging for those that just want to get in and drive the little wheels off it. Finally, the Sunbeam is pretty nice inside as well, which is perhaps even more notable than a smart exterior; what centre console there is remains intact, the new digital dash is sympathetically integrated, and the replacement front seats look great. That’s a hydraulic handbrake between them, too. It might be the best Sunbeam we’ve seen - and ought to be the first car to think about bidding on over the next few days…  


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Radioron

Original Poster:

29 posts

178 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Always regret not buying one of these. I test drove one on Westway about 45 years ago in the days before speed cameras. It was brisk with its distinctive dog leg gearbox. I got a Dolomite Sprint instead - silly (and expensive) decision.

GrandMoff

4 posts

29 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Sweet, sweet car

Jon_S_Rally

4,006 posts

105 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Do like a Sunbeam, but they really need the wider arches from the rally cars in my view. They look a bit odd without.

JmsNbl

12 posts

3 months

Tuesday 9th September
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JPS Steering wheel is seriously cool. I'm guessing that's not stock?

Peterpetrole

950 posts

14 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Do look fun but not sure in practice

nismo48

5,525 posts

224 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Radioron said:
Always regret not buying one of these. I test drove one on Westway about 45 years ago in the days before speed cameras. It was brisk with its distinctive dog leg gearbox. I got a Dolomite Sprint instead - silly (and expensive) decision.
Back in the day these were not as common as RS Mexico/2000"s. Couldn't quite stretch to one of these sadly. Instead bought a Mk1 Mexico with a few tasty modifications, no speed cameras and plods car was a mini van or if you were unlucky a 3.0s Capr !!
My next car was a Dolly, now that was a whole new ballgame.

ChevronB19

8,299 posts

180 months

Tuesday 9th September
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TI’s were very cheap as well for club rallying, many an hour was spent looking at the classifieds in Motorsport News. And I never bought one!

howardhughes

1,260 posts

221 months

Tuesday 9th September
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What a stunning car and restoration. I remember these back in the day, alongside the Vauxhall Chevette HS2300.
The Lotus, I never felt, received the recognition it deserved.

NGK210

4,066 posts

162 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Lovely seat pattern / design.
Are they OEM?

J4CKO

44,777 posts

217 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Remember as a young lad working at a garage, we had a white one come in, full on rally car with big arches, not sure if it started out as a Lotus or why we had it but we all got a passenger ride up the road in it.

Apparently not standard either, felt on a par with the early 911 Turbo I had been in, had a sort of foot rest and could feel my feet going light off it.

Then something broke and that was that !

Not sure I would buy one now but I do love how they look, be interesting to drive one and see how it compares to later stuff, still quite quick now at 6 and a bit to sixty.

Doggleg

582 posts

183 months

Tuesday 9th September
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When I was 19 in 1987, I did a deal to buy Avon Sunbeam number 027 from a garage. I was trading in a Fiesta 1.1 Ghia I had inherited from a great aunt. The difference was going on finance. My idea was to buy the car and put it in my dad's garage until I finshed college and could afford to do something with it (insure it). The finance company refused to lend me the money unless I put fully comp insurance on the car, which I couldn't afford to do. I was devastated.

Eventually the Fiesta went against a Mk2 RS2000.

2172cc

1,520 posts

114 months

Tuesday 9th September
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NGK210 said:
Lovely seat pattern / design.
Are they OEM?
No they are Alfa seats.

Scoobysaurus

313 posts

114 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Back in the day I went from Mk1 & 2 Ford Escorts into a Lotus Sunbeam, night and day different in terms of power and torque.

Augustus Windsock

3,650 posts

172 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Much as I would love one (especially an Avon), this leaves me cold, the wheels are wrong, the handbrake looks like it may be hydraulic(?), the rear seats look dreadful and the whole car screams of being a semi-rally preparation
I’d check to make sure there are no holes left after a roll cage was removed (I’m not suggesting it had one but the other mods do make me wonder)
Finally I’d want some 2-up, 2-down Cibies rather than the Marchal lights it should be wearing.

cerb4.5lee

38,330 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Whenever I see stuff like this, I always wish that I'd been 10 or so years older than I actually am. I've always thought the same about Mk1 and Mk2 Escorts as well.

Robigus

89 posts

249 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Somewhere there's a photograph of two of my sons as toddlers sat cross-legged in the boot holding welding masks whilst I stitch a repair panel in (squinting as I only had two masks)

Happy days. The lumpy cams and Skip Brown tuned engine made the days happier.

biggbn

27,976 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Nice car, preferred the Chevette HS and HSR though...

Ray_Aber

673 posts

293 months

Tuesday 9th September
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It’s rear wheel drive. Glorious! I remember reading the road test by Motor mag at the time. 0-60 in 6.8 secs - same as a Ferrari 308!

I’ve always liked these.

bigmowley

2,358 posts

193 months

Tuesday 9th September
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I was lucky enough to drive one about a fair bit when they were new, it belonged to a good mate and he was very laid back! It was a lovely thing, the induction roar and faint whiff of fuel was brilliant. It was very, very oversteery, basically you just drove everywhere on the throttle and with a twist of opposite lock on. Eventually it went through a hedge backwards and did a lot of damage. It was rebuilt and got sold off afterwards. At the time it felt properly quick but by modern standards I suspect not.
This one looks nice but a bit of a hotchpotch of parts. The proper interior would be a big improvement.

rs mexico

486 posts

233 months

Tuesday 9th September
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ChevronB19 said:
TI s were very cheap as well for club rallying, many an hour was spent looking at the classifieds in Motorsport News. And I never bought one!
Snap .Did a 220 mile round trip with cash to view one.Strait under the bonnet and to my horror engine bay was rewired using house old Twin and earth..Didn’t even bother getting the trade plates out of the car.Ended up getting a MKIi Escort 1600 Sport..