RE: V10 out of 10 | Six of the Best
RE: V10 out of 10 | Six of the Best
Saturday 18th October

V10 out of 10 | Six of the Best

There are no new V10s left to buy - so thank goodness for the weird and truly wonderful secondhand options...


Dodge Viper R/T10, 1995, 6k, £64,995

Give it some consideration, and there are actually a few more V10s for sale that might first be imagined. There’s not a Lamborghini in this list, for example. But some, of course, choose themselves, and there seemed no better place to kick off a celebration of all things ten cylinder than with perhaps the most famous of all: the Viper. For its near quarter century on sale, and across three generations, there was never a time when an 8.0-litre (or 8.3, remember) V10 felt even remotely sensible in an all-American hot rod. Which is why it became such a cult classic - over-engined doesn’t even begin to describe it. Its engine is at least 2.3-litres larger than anything else here. And that’s very cool. In the days of supercar annuals, when every Viper seemed to look just like this one, its stats - to say nothing of its incredible appearance - were almost unbelievable. This one has covered just 6,000 miles in 30 years, and has been in the UK for at least 20 of those. Hold on tight…

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Porsche Carrera GT, 2004, 4k, £1,490,000

Nothing shows off the diversity of V10-powered cars quite like Viper and Carrera GT. No, really. While obviously both two-door, two-seat, rear-drive roadsters with ten cylinders, the Dodge was a proper blue collar hero, with its truck-sourced engine, basic interior and iffy build quality. The CGT, conceived from a stillborn Le Mans project and with its exquisite carbon construction, is an aristocrat through and through. Launched back in the glory days of the naturally aspirated supercar (think Enzo, Murcielago, Zonda), the CGT actually went unloved for a while and values dropped. The clutch was tricky, there were more of them than some rivals, and a financial crash a few years after launch all conspired against it. They were less than £300,000 at one point - now you can add a million to that, at least, for an example like this silver over terracotta 2004 car. But values now seem secure, with collectors very excited about the design, the driving experience, the manual - and that incredible engine. PH’s greatest supercar for very good reason.

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BMW M5 Touring (E61), 2008, 103k, PH Auctions

The early ‘00s really were the heyday for the V10 in series production cars, with manufacturers keen to show off what they had learnt in contemporary motorsport. BMW leaned into that reality with gusto; its Sauber F1 partnership may not have really enjoyed much success on track, but its commitment to the engine configuration created some truly iconic M cars. The E60 and E61 M5, plus E63 M6, could never be described as perfect, but they were massively exciting thanks to a spectacular engine. Another V8 in an M5 wouldn’t have created the same mystique as the S85-powered cars; the rarity of the configuration means every V10 makes for an experience like nothing else. This PH Auctions car has had a fortune spent on it in recent years (and would probably appreciate similar treatment going forward), looks brilliant in Interlagos Blue, and has been with the owner for eight years. So expect plenty of bids alongside yours from Tuesday.

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Audi R8 Spyder, 2011, 49k, £48,950

Of course, the wonderful thing about the M5 was that such a stupendously large engine could be massaged into a family car and made to seem halfway normal. The wonderful thing about the R8 Spyder - like most any drop-top supercar - is that the V10 experience is vividly foregrounded. More so if you’ve opted to buy the six-speed manual, which this 2011 example proudly features. While any R8 offers a rounded and fairly refined solution to secondhand roadster ownership, the presence of a clutch pedal inevitably means there is something hefty and do-it-yourself about the Spyder - more so when you’re interacting with the components of such a sinewy engine. But the pay-off, especially in this day and age, is felt everywhere, not least in the pinch-me soundtrack. It’s easily theatrical enough to make Phantom Black Pearl seem like a virtue. 

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VW Touareg V10, 2007, 176k, £3,795

Sublime, meet ridiculous. A purist could be forgiven for holding our feet to the fire when it comes to the Touareg earning a mention while the mighty Gallardo has apparently been found wanting - but the jumbo-towing V10 TDI, a model almost as unlikely as the W12-engined version that VW also chose to build - is an old favourite on PH, and here for the 4.9 litres of novelty value (not to mention as a salute to its passing). A history lesson is hardly necessary these days (a small child could tell you that ten cylinders is at least four more than any diesel Touareg could ever need), so it is enough to say that the combination was among Ferdinand Piëch’s more eccentric follies. Or perhaps another moment of dastardly, chin-stroking genius. Whichever you prefer, you can today buy a V10-powered family SUV for the equivalent of pocket change. And after taking your brave pill, obviously.

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Lexus LFA, 2011, 6k, POA

Another favourite to see us home. In its own way, the LFA’s development rivalled the anything-is-possible vibe that characterised Piëch’s decision-making. Toyota had about as much divine right to make a supercar as Belgium has to make a Moon rocket. But (not unlike a lunar landing) the LFA showed what was possible if you brought the considerable resources and ingenuity of a large organisation to bear on one pie-in-the-sky project. The result was one for the ages, appreciated more in the aftermath than at launch, perhaps, but rightly lauded for the extraordinary engine that Toyota had chosen to install in the nose. It differs from the fun-loving Viper in many ways, yet both typify the thrill-seeking approach that makes the V10 loom large in the imagination. 

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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

39,243 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th October
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That is a great list, and I'd love to tick the V10 box for sure one day. What isn't there to like?

biggbn

28,411 posts

238 months

Saturday 18th October
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cerb4.5lee said:
That is a great list, and I'd love to tick the V10 box for sure one day. What isn't there to like?
Lee, I couldn't have a V10 on my drive, I'd feel emasculated and worry what my neighbours would think. Minimum 12 cylinders for me. Can't understand why anyone would settle for 10....

AndySheff

6,790 posts

225 months

Saturday 18th October
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I've been lucky enough to have ticked the V10 box having owned a Viper GTS. Awesome machine. Torque is tremendous. Top gear at 100mph is 2000 revs smile

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

39,243 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th October
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biggbn said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That is a great list, and I'd love to tick the V10 box for sure one day. What isn't there to like?
Lee, I couldn't have a V10 on my drive, I'd feel emasculated and worry what my neighbours would think. Minimum 12 cylinders for me. Can't understand why anyone would settle for 10....
I remember when I owned a Mini though, and that was bad enough for me. All my mates and family took the piss, so I'd rather have a V10 to be honest. winkbiggrin

Paul_77

1,384 posts

111 months

Saturday 18th October
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cerb4.5lee said:
That is a great list, and I'd love to tick the V10 box for sure one day. What isn't there to like?
The running costs! Although that Audi is very tempting.

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

39,243 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th October
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Paul_77 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That is a great list, and I'd love to tick the V10 box for sure one day. What isn't there to like?
The running costs! Although that Audi is very tempting.
Definitely. This is happy list for me though, and it could be a lot worse if you're floating around in an electric car for me in comparison to be fair.

Evolved

3,949 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th October
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cerb4.5lee said:
biggbn said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That is a great list, and I'd love to tick the V10 box for sure one day. What isn't there to like?
Lee, I couldn't have a V10 on my drive, I'd feel emasculated and worry what my neighbours would think. Minimum 12 cylinders for me. Can't understand why anyone would settle for 10....
I remember when I owned a Mini though, and that was bad enough for me. All my mates and family took the piss, so I'd rather have a V10 to be honest. winkbiggrin
No where near enough cylinders! Its not a proper manly engine and completely pointless having anything less than 12!
It lacks sound, size and as noted, leaves one feeling emasculated.

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

39,243 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th October
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Evolved said:
cerb4.5lee said:
biggbn said:
cerb4.5lee said:
That is a great list, and I'd love to tick the V10 box for sure one day. What isn't there to like?
Lee, I couldn't have a V10 on my drive, I'd feel emasculated and worry what my neighbours would think. Minimum 12 cylinders for me. Can't understand why anyone would settle for 10....
I remember when I owned a Mini though, and that was bad enough for me. All my mates and family took the piss, so I'd rather have a V10 to be honest. winkbiggrin
No where near enough cylinders! Its not a proper manly engine and completely pointless having anything less than 12!
It lacks sound, size and as noted, leaves one feeling emasculated.
Definitely, and why settle for less? beer

It blows my mind that electric ever became a thing for me to be honest. How the hell do you ever come to terms with driving one of them in comparison? winkbiggrin

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

39,243 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th October
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AndySheff said:
I've been lucky enough to have ticked the V10 box having owned a Viper GTS. Awesome machine. Torque is tremendous. Top gear at 100mph is 2000 revs smile
My old mechanic was fortunate enough to drive a viper the same as the one in this list, and he said to me how much attention he got in it. Such a proper car in my eyes for sure(engine and everything). cloud9

wistec1

672 posts

59 months

Saturday 18th October
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Great list of V10 on offer.

I cannot think of another time I've actually thought I would take every car on a PH list.

If pushed to choose it my head would say the Porsche,my heart would say the Lexus, my Lad would say the Beemer,The wife wouldn't have a clue and my should leprechaun would say the VW.


pycraft

1,168 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th October
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biggbn said:
Lee, I couldn't have a V10 on my drive, I'd feel emasculated and worry what my neighbours would think. Minimum 12 cylinders for me. Can't understand why anyone would settle for 10....
It must be difficult going through life desperately hoping no-one in your social circle gets a Bugatti.

(Admittedly, if that's the case, your social circle is quite different to mine)

GreatScott2016

1,998 posts

106 months

Saturday 18th October
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Lovely list but it’s the LFA that grabs my attention the most although the engine note in that GT is also truly wonderful.

200Plus Club

12,339 posts

296 months

Saturday 18th October
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Any of them other than the Touareg.
Slightly biased as I already have a sublime V10 Plus, absolute peach of an engine/car.

Dinosaur juice

23 posts

5 months

Saturday 18th October
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I test drove a V10 E60 M5 in summer and the engine noise was spectacular, wouldn't need a radio with that noise.


Elmariachi

58 posts

77 months

Saturday 18th October
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The R8 for me. A classy, underappreciated car with a beautiful rear profile and surprisingly cheap for what it is. A future classic, can see us wishing we'd bought one when they were only £50k 15 years from now 😬

MikeM6

5,637 posts

120 months

Saturday 18th October
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An interesting list! I do really like a V10, and it is great to have owned one for a good while. 10 cylinders just sound so good.

Controversial bit.... I wouldn't be interested in the M5 touring. The M5 saloon is better (lighter and no air suspension) but the M6 is the better one to drive (even lighter, shorter wheelbase and lower centre of gravity).

The Carrera GT and LFA are sadly way beyond the reach of all but the few, which is such a shame as even seeing one is a rarity.

E90_M3Ross

36,284 posts

230 months

Saturday 18th October
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AndySheff said:
I've been lucky enough to have ticked the V10 box having owned a Viper GTS. Awesome machine. Torque is tremendous. Top gear at 100mph is 2000 revs smile
A friend of mine owned one many years ago. It was fast, but I actually found the engine, for what it was, quite dull. I personally thought it sounded pretty "meh" and wasn't that eager to rev. Each to their own and I'm glad such a thing exists smile

fantheman80

2,178 posts

67 months

Saturday 18th October
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Oh my are the R8s really that price…..that’s Saturday morning sorted then, convincing her to get a family bus to replace her mini and I will just er, get a smaller car for my commute…and a second job to keep it running

Seeing two LFAs was heaven at PH in the summer, ManyMotors will be along in a minute to tell us about the Iack of interior space rolleyes

Robertb

2,944 posts

256 months

Saturday 18th October
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I’ve always had a soft spot for the Audi S8 and the Huracan.

Otherwise my favourite PH list!

Lefty

18,731 posts

220 months

Saturday 18th October
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Number 7

The C6 RS6. Not the most involving drive but what a powerhouse of a motor, I had one tweaked North of 700bhp and it was quite something for a sensible automatic 4wd family estate.