RE: Longbow Speedster achieves 'demonstrator' phase
RE: Longbow Speedster achieves 'demonstrator' phase
Saturday 1st November

Longbow Speedster achieves 'demonstrator' phase

Startup has gone from rendering to real-world in six months - and claims first year of production is sold out


The brace of Longbow ‘Featherweight Electric Vehicles’, the Speedster and Roadster, could hardly have arrived at a more interesting time. Announced just this March, they promised everything that the only other EV sports car out there, the MG Cyberster, couldn’t hope to match: lightweight, relatively low power, drop-top thrills. Both variants would weigh under a tonne, with more than 300 hp and a WLTP range of 275 miles. Designed, engineered and built in Britain, the Longbows seemed like a very modern, very relevant pair of sports cars.

It was all mighty encouraging, especially with prices well under £100,000, even if there was the inevitable wariness that comes with a new British sports car maker. We’ve seen plenty come and go, after all. But in the months since March, when Porsche has flip-flopped on its EV sports car strategy and Ferrari has previewed the guts of another two-tonne electric whopper, Longbow has been pressing ahead with making its lightweight EV sports car a reality. 

Well, making it three-dimensional, at any rate. What you’re looking at is the Longbow Speedster ‘Aesthetic Dynamic demonstrator’, a phrase that suggests the car is doing a lot more work stylistically than actually moving about the place. Regardless, it looks like nothing else on the road, battery-powered or otherwise. Which is rather the point of an EV being marketed for its multiple points of difference. 

To our eyes, it evokes the classic front-engined, rear-drive roadsters with its silhouette, if inevitably a bit chunkier thanks to the packaging requirements of its batteries. The Speedster remains pleasingly compact, too, and while it possesses the kind of smart visual details that are likely to appeal to its intended audience, its standout feature is still the idea that you might be able to have it all for £84,995. 

Longbow reckons the turnaround has been so swift because its ‘Speed of Lightness’ mantra also underpins their development processes. ‘This was not an exercise in corner-cutting’, they say, ‘it was an ambitious project to condense, enhance, and accelerate every step of the process. It means that first customer Speedster deliveries are still scheduled for next year, with the £64,995 roofed Roadster to follow. Indeed, Longbow says the first year’s allocation of limited edition Speedsters is spoken for, though doesn’t say how many cars that actually is. 

Daniel Davey, Longbow co-founder and CEO at Longbow, said: “Speedster seems to have struck a chord with enthusiasts. It’s a timeless blueprint with a twist, which was exactly what the market was missing… While Speedster defies convention, so too has our journey to get here - we’ve managed to deliver a Dynamic Demonstrator in just six months..” Assuming his optimism is a contagious quality at the fledgling firm, it ought to mean that the finished production isn’t too far behind. Fingers crossed, eh? 


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B10

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1,349 posts

286 months

Friday 31st October
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Looks a bit tall above the front wheels

Every day a journey

2,499 posts

57 months

Friday 31st October
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That's surely one for the crap plates thread

GingerNinja

3,978 posts

277 months

Friday 31st October
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So, assuming they actually make it to the production phase, we’re thinking it’s going to actually be about £100K?

pb8g09

2,888 posts

88 months

Friday 31st October
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Do you have to wear a helmet when driving this? - otherwise, couldn't a stone chip or a conker dropping from a tree take your eye out?

Bobby Lee

253 posts

74 months

Friday 31st October
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pb8g09 said:
Do you have to wear a helmet when driving this? - otherwise, couldn't a stone chip or a conker dropping from a tree take your eye out?
Should be okay with glasses or goggles similar to a Caterham with an aero screen. Especially if the aerodynamics is a bit more sorted on these (not a high bar there).

ETA I really hope they reconsider those wheels, but otherwise it looks pretty good considering the tech.

Edited by Bobby Lee on Friday 31st October 11:37

evenflow

8,827 posts

301 months

Friday 31st October
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Temu Monza SP2

kambites

70,147 posts

240 months

Friday 31st October
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pb8g09 said:
Do you have to wear a helmet when driving this? - otherwise, couldn't a stone chip or a conker dropping from a tree take your eye out?
It's not hard to get sunglasses which have been ballistically tested and rated. Getting hit in the face by a stone would still hurt though!

I find this car fascinating. I don't really have any desire for an electric sports car, but at least this sort of thing shows that it's going to be possible to produce one which doesn't weight 200kg+. If this is, say, 1000kg, it should be possible to produce a version with doors and a windscreen and "get me home" hood at something like 1100kg, making it an interesting modern-day take on something like an Elise.

Edited by kambites on Friday 31st October 11:45

trails

5,797 posts

168 months

Friday 31st October
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Every day a journey said:
That's surely one for the crap plates thread
It's not a good look is it...didn't even need to be spaced incorrectly to achieve their aim.

Twoshoe

953 posts

203 months

Friday 31st October
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Every day a journey said:
That's surely one for the crap plates thread
Just what I thought. Rest of it looks pretty good to my old eyes though (at least until they get hit by conkers, obviously).

S600BSB

6,889 posts

125 months

Friday 31st October
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Good for them.

Robertb

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257 months

Friday 31st October
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I'll be interested to see more info about the Roadster, which is really stunning in the pics. Details are scant on their site.

If if comes out looking like that at under £65k it deserves to be a winner.

Wardy78

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77 months

Friday 31st October
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Do they offer a pie slice as part of the press pack? Few pieces of humble pie might be due for consumption wink

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

veevee said:
Four pages of enthusiastic comments and noone has pointed out this is yet another British spotscar project that will never come to fruition.

Frimley111R

17,716 posts

253 months

Friday 31st October
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...looks outside at the UK weather...

edoverheels

510 posts

124 months

Friday 31st October
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Most interesting new car for ages.
I'm looking forward to the next stages and the Roadster. Really hope it works out for them.
This is what Lotus should be doing.

edoverheels

510 posts

124 months

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B10 said:
Looks a bit tall above the front wheels
Agreed, it has an ND MX5 'kink' above the front wheels. A car can get way with it if the thing as a whole is low. I'm just hoping that the photo angles with camera low down are not flattering. When viewed standing up it should be ok.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,497 posts

117 months

Friday 31st October
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Wardy78 said:
Do they offer a pie slice as part of the press pack? Few pieces of humble pie might be due for consumption wink

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

veevee said:
Four pages of enthusiastic comments and noone has pointed out this is yet another British spotscar project that will never come to fruition.
This is still a long, long way from coming to fruition. It ultimately depends on how much finance they have behind them. At this stage, it's all money out with nothing coming in. Whether they have enough to finish design, test and hone dynamics, find suppliers, gear up for production, buy parts and actually make the thing is still very unclear....

leggerito

75 posts

8 months

Friday 31st October
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B10 said:
Looks a bit tall above the front wheels
I liked the renders, but this prototype reads as 2-5cm too tall front to back.

My fear is it's because they've gone for below-seat batteries rather than 'mid-engine' like Porsche or Alpine look to be doing. Frustrating, given that one of the main advantages of a sports car is a low hip point.

SDK

2,139 posts

272 months

Friday 31st October
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An EV for the people who say 'EV's are only good as a second car' smile

Panamax

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53 months

Friday 31st October
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Frimley111R said:
...looks outside at the UK weather...
Trying to sell cars without a windscreen has trashed many sports car hopefuls and this would be more of the same lunacy.

Renault Sport Spyder (they eventually fitted a windscreen but the rest of the weather gear was ghastly. Lotus Elise more practical.)
KTM X-bow (they eventually did a GT version with a windscreen and wobbly weather gear. Company in trouble.)
Zenos (designed roofless, they eventually came up with a windscreen of sorts. Didn't save the company.)

Cold

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109 months

Friday 31st October
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edoverheels said:
Most interesting new car for ages.
I'm looking forward to the next stages and the Roadster. Really hope it works out for them.
This is what Lotus should be doing.
Lotus? Been there, done that.