RE: Impeccable, irresistible Rover 825 for sale
RE: Impeccable, irresistible Rover 825 for sale
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Impeccable, irresistible Rover 825 for sale

More than 25 services, less than 10,000 miles - say hello to probably the best Rover in the world


We could all reel off a good few cars that used to be commonplace and are now basically extinct. The stuff your dad had, your teachers had, the cars that would be found throughout the supermarket car park - and are now rarer than Ferraris. You’ll have your favourite forgotten car, but perhaps no brand has dropped from prominence further than Rover. We’re now more than 20 years since the demise of MG Rover (yes, really), and in that time, numbers have plummeted. Thank goodness there are a few dedicated souls committed to keeping the remaining cars going. 

The Rover 800 was definitely one of those everyday spots you thought nothing of seeing once upon a time. Little surprise, really, given it was once the UK’s best-selling executive car and more than 300,000 found homes between 1986 and 1998 (when it and the 600 were replaced by the 75). From that peak, numbers dwindled fast, though; they didn’t hold their value and there were some reliability problems, so they didn’t seem worth saving. We featured a Vitesse as a Shed in 2007 for £250…

The HowManyLeft stats are staggering, enough to make you wince. There were more than 7,000 827s on our roads in the late 20th century, which had already dropped to 10 per cent of that by 2005. Throw a recession and a scrappage scheme in and there were fewer than a hundred 827s by 2011. Now the latest figures show 11 taxed and on the road in the UK. 

The Rover-engined, KV6 825 would replace the Honda-powered 827 after 1996. Currently, we stand at three examples of those on the road in the UK, from a peak of almost 500. But that number could be set to climb by a third with the introduction of this 825 to the UK, an incredible Japanese import that will be registered and MOT’d when sold to its new owner. This could represent the first increase in Rover 800 numbers in the UK for decades. It’s like being a Countryfile presenter when a native species returns. 

It would do this car a disservice to say it’s the best Rover 825 around, because it’s got to be the best Rover we’ve ever seen. There can’t be many cars left from 1998 as good as this. Just imported as a one-owner-from-new, right-hand drive Japanese car, it’s covered just 9,469 miles since new. There are said to be ‘over 25 services’ in its history, so we’ll assume at least an annual check-up, it’s been garaged all its life, and is free from any kind of repair. Just imagine the love that’s gone into looking after this Rover 800 for more than a quarter of a century. 

Now it presents as the most spectacular of automotive exhibits, flawless down to the very last detail. Only the minor creases on the driver’s seat suggest any human contact at all, with lovely wood veneers, unworn buttons, and perfect piping. The engine appears like it’s just been fitted, the paint like it’s just been applied. For all the talk of iffy Rover quality once upon a time, this looks like a fantastic car. 

So what to do with the £10,000, 10,000-mile Rover? The ad, understandably, suggests this is probably one for the avid collector, a car to be used as sparingly as the original owner did. Which is probably what should happen. On the other hand, what a wonderful thing to cruise around in, strike up conversations about at every stop, and appreciate as a reminder of the time Rover (sort of) ruled the roost. Even with twice the miles, it’s going to be an unrepeatable specimen. And we’ll get the joy of seeing a Rover 800 on the road for the first time in a long time. You’d be doing charitable work, really. 


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Turbobanana

Original Poster:

7,513 posts

220 months

Rob131Sport, your moment has come. The floor is yours.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,400 posts

162 months

Impeccable..? Maybe. Irresistible? Err… Nope.

hidetheelephants

31,723 posts

212 months

The best Rover in the world? It's not even the best Rover 800.

Alex Z

1,880 posts

95 months

That’s great. If I had somewhere to park it I’d be tempted.

Andy86GT

731 posts

84 months

Much prefer the original, especially the Vitesse;


stuart100

992 posts

76 months

Andy86GT said:
Much prefer the original, especially the Vitesse;

My neighbour has one of these in gold. A saloon. I used to think it looked grand. Much better than the others of the same
type. I was sad to see it go when he sold it after one year. I’m sure it was new, or at least nearly new. But it needed a new headlight which he had to pay for and it was about £700 or so as I recall. He was shocked, and ditched it for a smaller 200 series. He complained about it, but perhaps it was more costly than he liked to run as a retired policeman.

Markgenesis

550 posts

151 months

Served part of my time on these big Rovers in the late 80's and thought they were amazing things, the facelifted Mk2 825 shape just doesn't have the same appeal at all, 10K for a mint Mk1 Vitesse maybe but as nice as it is not that import.

carinaman

23,627 posts

191 months

stuart100 said:
My neighbour has one of these in gold. A saloon. I used to think it looked grand. Much better than the others of the same
type. I was sad to see it go when he sold it after one year. I m sure it was new, or at least nearly new. But it needed a new headlight which he had to pay for and it was about £700 or so as I recall. He was shocked, and ditched it for a smaller 200 series. He complained about it, but perhaps it was more costly than he liked to run as a retired policeman.
A long deceased elderly chap along the road replaced their two tone 2000E Sierra Sapphire with a Rover 75. I think they sold it after an expensive service and possibly the water in the plenum taking out the ECU. There's a lot of leaf litter around this time of the year.

carinaman

23,627 posts

191 months

hidetheelephants said:
The best Rover in the world? It's not even the best Rover 800.
Agreed. Best preserved possibly.

carinaman

23,627 posts

191 months

I think it was the late Russell Bulgin who did a piece in CAR Magazine on the face lifted Rover 800 back in the day when they were current.

He wrote the redesign for the wings had to retain the same swage line, crease so as to align with the same crease in the door skin pressings. So after they had done that they realised the tooling for the door skin pressings needed replacing anyway so they didn't need the new wings to stick to the same swage line as the door skins.

The boot lid on this example looks well out when you look at the light and shadows on the top of the lid and also how the rear lamps align with the lamps on the boot lid. It was possibly like that from new but it looks substandard and a bit crap.

SDK

2,127 posts

272 months

Back in the early 90 s when I was doing a paper round, I remember every other drive used to have a Rover of some sort parked. The 800 Vitesse always stood out and I dreamed one day I might have one love

hidetheelephants said:
The best Rover in the world? It's not even the best Rover 800.
The reference to ‘best in the world’ refers to existing cars today. Do you have links to any better ones?

Edited by SDK on Sunday 2nd November 08:26

Turbobanana

Original Poster:

7,513 posts

220 months

When these first came out, I was busy applying for university places. A mailer dropped onto the door mat one day, addressed to my dad and from the local Rover dealership, Drivers of Prestatyn. It was an invite for a 48 hour test drive in the new Rover 800.

My dad was not interested, but suggested I reply and see if they'd lend it to me.

They did, so I managed to visit Bristol and Nottingham universities in an 800 Sterling before handing it back after 48 hours.

carinaman

23,627 posts

191 months

Excellent Turbobanana!

Robertb

2,969 posts

257 months

Turbobanana said:
When these first came out, I was busy applying for university places. A mailer dropped onto the door mat one day, addressed to my dad and from the local Rover dealership, Drivers of Prestatyn. It was an invite for a 48 hour test drive in the new Rover 800.

My dad was not interested, but suggested I reply and see if they'd lend it to me.

They did, so I managed to visit Bristol and Nottingham universities in an 800 Sterling before handing it back after 48 hours.
Good work!

Dad had an 825 and then 827 Sterling. It was back in the good old days when insurance was reasonable for youngsters and I used to drive the 827. Was a very good car, seemed quick at the time!

Rough101

2,828 posts

94 months

GreatScott2016

2,021 posts

107 months

hidetheelephants said:
The best Rover in the world? It's not even the best Rover 800.
I think the comment relates to current Rover stock, not the best model ever sold smile

Taz73

313 posts

31 months

I think these, and the earlier models, were very handsome looking cars, I’d quite like this as it’s something different to everything else being driven about, bet it’s hard to get parts for though.
Needs to be driven rather than stored, can’t see it being a massive appreciator so might as well use it and enjoy it.

Watcher of the skies

933 posts

56 months

I've never driven one, but I always liked the look of the facelifted 800, particularly the coupe, handsome to my eyes.
Should I hand in my PH card?

carinaman

23,627 posts

191 months

Watcher of the skies said:
I've never driven one, but I always liked the look of the facelifted 800, particularly the coupe, handsome to my eyes.
Should I hand in my PH card?
There's one on eBay for £4K.

I don't know if it's one of the later ones that came with the torque sensing diff./LSD.

MarkJS

1,983 posts

166 months

I see one very similar to this being driven through Brighouse most evenings. It was obviously a big car back in the day but looks relatively tiny these days.