RE: Ford Fiesta ST-3 (Mk8) | PH Fleet
RE: Ford Fiesta ST-3 (Mk8) | PH Fleet
Thursday 13th November

Ford Fiesta ST-3 (Mk8) | PH Fleet

Duster out, Fiesta ST in. Of course Ben is back in a hot hatch...


I seem to be stuck in a cycle, and I can’t be the only one. I buy a car that I’ve lusted after for years, it costs a bloody fortune to run, and then I try (and fail) to be sensible. I was spending far too much money on preventative maintenance for my Audi RS3 out of fear that something would go wrong, and despite having done everything possible, it was keeping me awake at night.

Having two project cars was financially unviable for me (this is going to go well again), so it made sense to sell the aging Audi with 70,000 miles on it and buy a nearly new Dacia Duster for not far off the same money with a nice long warranty. Don’t get me wrong; I love the Duster, and wish I could afford to keep it on the fleet as a workhorse, but the temptation to switch into the other car I was considering against the RS3 at the time was too strong.

Enter the Mk8 Ford Fiesta ST-3 Performance Pack. When our long term press car joined our fleet back in 2018, I had high hopes. I’m probably in the minority that was left underwhelmed by its predecessor. Matt and I tested a Mk7 Fiesta ST200 against ‘my’ long term Peugeot 208 GTI by Peugeot Sport earlier that year (prior to our Mk8 ST arriving) and for me the French hot hatch wiped the floor with it.

The Fiesta’s seating position was too high, the ride too harsh, the interior felt cheap and plasticky with far too many buttons. The 208, on the other hand, had far superior damping, a more sophisticated interior with lower, comfier bucket seats, and a proper mechanical limited-slip differential to haul it through corners. Perhaps in isolation I would have enjoyed the Fiesta more, but up against the 208, my expectations had been crushed.

Thankfully, that was not the case for my first drive in the Mk8 ST. It was everything I’d hoped the Mk7 would have been, and then some. Like all STs, our long termer had the 1.5-litre turbocharged three-pot producing 200hp, which it dispatched to the front wheels via a six-speed manual gearbox and Quaife mechanical limited-slip differential to chomp at apexes thanks to the optional Performance Pack. On the outside it looked a little less boy racer and a bit more grown up, and inside the interior felt generations ahead of the Mk7. I absolutely loved it, and had been plotting to buy one ever since.

I’m amazed it has taken this long, really, and given that the Fiesta is now dead (boo), values for well-specced, low mileage examples like WR21 ELH have held strong the last few years. Before you ask – no, it doesn’t have a wet belt. Unlike the Ecoboost, the ‘Dragon’ 1.5-litre triple is chain driven. The oil pump was originally chain driven on earlier models, but this changed to a wet belt in 2019, however the oil pump is under considerably less strain and after exhaustive research, the only issues I could find were with the earlier chain-driven oil pumps.

I’ve been watching the market closely for years now and would only settle for my ultimate spec – Ford Performance Blue metallic paint, Performance Pack with the Quaife limited-slip differential, LED headlights and the B&O sound system for banging out those Fast & Furious tunes in a McDonalds car park near you. WR21 ELH popped up in the PistonHeads classifieds with full Ford service history and all the right boxes ticked, so I swiftly had it delivered so I could test it thoroughly on my local roads. Suffice it to say I’m absolutely besotted, and it’s even better than I remember from seven years ago. I only wish I bought one sooner. Naturally I’ve got lots planned with it, but more on that next time!


FACT SHEET

Car: 2021 Ford Fiesta ST-3 Performance Pack
Run by: Ben Lowden
On fleet since: November 2025
Mileage: 33,381
Last month at a glance: Stone Cold STunner

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GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,312 posts

229 months

Thursday
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I ve a couple of months ago bought a last of line 2023 ST-3 with the Performance Pack. It s a brilliant car, so much more fun than the M135i X Drive it (indirectly) replaced.

Ford have really dropped the ball in exiting this market.





They made an interesting change on the facelift version swapping out the previous Recaros for Ford branded seats. Having tried the originals, the new ones are probably the best seats I’ve seen at any price point and way superior to the seats in my 3 Series.





Edited by GTEYE on Thursday 13th November 06:32

fantheman80

2,212 posts

68 months

Thursday
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From an RS3 to a duster was such a bizarre move I am glad you got your senses back

i think the 5 door looks more awkward but appreciate you need the practicality

Seano1878

88 posts

47 months

Thursday
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Same exact spec as my old one, was a really fun little hot hatch. Used to be on three wheels all the time through the bends but seemed to manage 35-40mpg regularly despite wringing its neck all the time.
Would have an Edition if I ever bought another.

mooseracer

2,478 posts

189 months

Thursday
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Here is my 2023 mk8.5, the dog must have already jumped out by the time I took the picture smile

I owned a mk7 previously and this one takes a little more effort to uncover it's silly side but is still very much there. Cracking cars.
Suspension is still harsh mind.

GreatScott2016

2,034 posts

107 months

Thursday
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Really like these and there is no logical reason why we haven’t purchased one. While a 3 door looks better, I’m torn between both options given the practicality of the 5 door. Maybe one day, but given a used market only, perhaps sooner rather than later smile

wistec1

680 posts

60 months

Thursday
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I must try one of these it could make the bucket list. The reviews are often positive. Future classic status awaits me thinks with silly prices as well.

sideways man

1,587 posts

156 months

Thursday
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I do quite fancy one, but I also like some comfort… Is the ride as firm as the internet says? Yes, I know it’s a hot hatch.

mooseracer

2,478 posts

189 months

Thursday
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I'd class it as harsh rather than firm, I'm very much tempted by either Ford Perfornance or the (very similar) KW v3 coilovers to improve the quality of not only the handling but also the ride.

minismithy90

20 posts

172 months

Thursday
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My Cousin’s just got a the FL (8.5) and the seats are probably some of the best I’ve sat in!



I’ll echo the comments about the previous ST. I traded mine in for a then mint-low mileage Corsa VXR Nurburgring in about 2016. I preferred the Corsa in every way which no one agreed with, of course laugh

Anyways, I’ve been eying up these Mk8 ST’s myself as they’re down to about 11k now for a ST-3 with the Performance Pack.



My Cousins, I can’t recall seeing a 3rd in that colour!

greenarrow

4,383 posts

136 months

Thursday
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Interested about the comments re ride as I recall period road tests highlighted that this was still firm. Indeed I remember one EVO road test with a Hyundai i30 where the Fiesta got its arse handed to it on a very testing road full of your typical crests and yumps. I think the MK8 ST is nicely conservative in its styling, a sure fire future classic I would've thought. We've got a MK6 Fiesta ST, the grand-daddy of the range and frankly that has a very stiff ride too, seems Ford just churned them all out like that! I can imagine that the Peugeot 208 did ride better than your MK7, as the French have always been better at making their hot hatches liveable on our type of roads. In fact its a shame they have those chocolate engines, because a 208 GTI is currently a very cheap second hand buy and one that goes under the radar.

SweptVolume

1,142 posts

112 months

Thursday
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Funnily enough, I had a 2021 Fiesta Titanium X with the EcoBoost MHEV engine as a courtesy car earlier this week when I took my Mustang in for its first service.

I thought it excellent fun to hustle about, and the only thing I didn't like was the aggressive regenerative braking, which really messed the car coming into bends (basically like hitting the brakes at precisely the wrong time).

Anyway, I've been thinking what to replace my 2014 Suzuki Swift Sport with, and figured, if the Fiesta ST is all that the Titanium X is, without the annoying hybrid bit, it'd be a fantastic car.

I wonder though; those performance seats look massive. Would they be in my daughter's face (or prime for kicking) if I fitted a child seat in there? She fits in fine in the Swift, but that's an incredibly well packaged car.

alock

4,422 posts

230 months

Thursday
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I love mine. Took a while to find a low millage green car with B&O and winter pack. Being a later car it has the performance pack as standard.



What I think is often missed, is that the MK8 was designed when interiors still had physical buttons for everything, even if you buy a late 2023 car. Additionally, being pre-2024, if you switch any of the ADAS off, they remain off when you restart the car.

The only addition I've added is a QuadLock wireless android auto adapter (inside the armrest) so I don't have to plug my phone in.

nismo48

5,774 posts

226 months

Thursday
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alock said:
I love mine. Took a while to find a low millage green car with B&O and winter pack. Being a later car it has the performance pack as standard.



What I think is often missed, is that the MK8 was designed when interiors still had physical buttons for everything, even if you buy a late 2023 car. Additionally, being pre-2024, if you switch any of the ADAS off, they remain off when you restart the car.

The only addition I've added is a QuadLock wireless android auto adapter (inside the armrest) so I don't have to plug my phone in.
Nice thumbup

davyvee

313 posts

154 months

Thursday
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I think i'm in the minority as I didn't like mine. Mainly due to the steering, nothing there.




fmp

27 posts

245 months

Thursday
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I had one of these for about two years. I generally thought it was a bit ste. Definitely didn't live up to the hype it received.

engine was quite cool for what it was. Brakes were abysmal. Even with uprated pads. And the seats were hateful.

I thankfully only paid 14k for mine. I would be thoroughly disappointed if i spent anywhere near the 26k some folks were shelling out on new ones.

I was glad to see it go.

But that's the beauty of cars, they tick different boxes for different folks. Whilst its an old girl, I am very much enjoying my current Megane R26 far more!

Ben Lowden

7,130 posts

196 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Thursday
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fantheman80 said:
From an RS3 to a duster was such a bizarre move I am glad you got your senses back

i think the 5 door looks more awkward but appreciate you need the practicality
I know, although we were also just starting an extension so I needed a skip on wheels for all the tip runs, it saved me a fortune on skip hire biggrin At the time I was karting everything around for Sunday Services too and the marquee wouldn't fit in a Fiesta, but luckily I now have Adam to do that. The sacrifices I make for all of you hehe

Seano1878 said:
Same exact spec as my old one, was a really fun little hot hatch. Used to be on three wheels all the time through the bends but seemed to manage 35-40mpg regularly despite wringing its neck all the time.
Would have an Edition if I ever bought another.
I think I averaged 35mpg on my first tank of fuel and I'm currently at 42/43mpg on the second and I'm not taking it easy! Even my Duster is only doing around 44mpg. Conversely when I bought my RS3 I averaged 19mpg the first few weeks...

sideways man said:
I do quite fancy one, but I also like some comfort Is the ride as firm as the internet says? Yes, I know it s a hot hatch.
This was a big worry of mine, and part of the reason why I paid for home delivery so that I had 14 days to test it on my local roads and return it for a refund if it was too stiff. It is firm, but the damping is great and no where near as harsh or crashy as my RS3 was. The roads around me are in a terrible state and it's absolutely fine on them. The ride flows with them rather than fights against them smile

el romeral

1,814 posts

156 months

Thursday
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These look great and must be a real hoot to drive. Experience with a much lesser model (82 bhp) had me very impressed with how good it felt to drive, especially on twisty roads. With all that extra power and better suspension, the feeling must be x10.

TikTak

2,511 posts

38 months

Thursday
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Great things. One of if not the best little hatch around and has been at the top for years.

Great to drive, nice to be in and will do most the things you want.

Sad that they are no more.

Water Fairy

6,283 posts

174 months

Thursday
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Currently own a MK7.5 ST3 which is at stage 2 (240bhp).

Interesting you think the seats were too high. I'm almost 6ft and have no issues.

Yes the ride is firm but show me a HH that isn't.

Yes the interior of the MK7 is a bit naff in places but one thing you must remember is cost.

My 1 owner 65 plate ST3 with FFSH and tracker, Ghost2 and Mountune 215 package cost 7k from a dealer last year.

If I'm paying 2x or 2.5x that of course I would expect it to look and feel better.

It's all about VFM.

And I believe the MK8 is around 100kgs heavier? Which is a bad thing.

That said I do still think the MK8 ST is a great car, but could I justify the extra expense for one...............................

RacerMike

4,562 posts

230 months

Thursday
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I similarly never understood the hype around the Mk7 ST. Hated its looks and the interior was very early 2000s.

I had an ST Line followed by an ST Performance Pack Mk8. Loved both of them, but it was an interesting contrast driving them back to back. The ST feels like a much more grown up car than the ST Line and the powertrain is really stand out on it.

I used to get discounts on Ford’s through my previous job, so all were great value and I swapped the Fiesta for a Focus ST Track Pack just over two years ago as I wanted to consolidate down to one car and save some cash for a bit (the Fiesta was a daily to a GT4 as a weekend car). I still miss the Fiesta’s character, although even for me, the ride on motorways was tough to deal with. The actual compression and rebound choices are fine, but the dampers lack travel so you end up being fired into the headlining on big motorway undulations. The A14 in particular was almost verging on hilarious at times…

The Fiesta is definitely the more accomplished B Road car compared to the Focus which is bigger and more accomplished but with higher limits. The Fiesta felt more aloof on track and rather soft and pitchy. The Focus on its KWs by comparison is very well controlled and capable….just a shame it’s powertrain is the week point (I’m on my second engine after it melted two cylinders at the Nurburgring!). Such a shame both are discontinued now.